Do I need to upgrade from XP home for File and Printer Sharing ?

Q. Do I need to upgrade from XP home for File and Printer Sharing ?

I am completely new to this wireless game (3 days) although I have read a
lot up on the various procedures.

However, I am having an absolute nightmare (and daymare) with my wireless-B
802.11b set up.

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Have Desktop and Notebook, both running XP home.

Both are running NIS2003

Was given (free) a Linksys BEFW11S4 for use with my Cable 1Mbps service.

Both items are accessing the internet connection successfully without a
problem.

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I have followed (I thought carefully) the various XP office network
installation wizards for "File and Printer Sharing" and have since gone
through the trouble shooters a number of times, without any success so far.

e.g., (rebooting each time) I have renamed both computers, etc, etc, a
number of times, without success.

Am I missing something simple here, or are the rumours really true that
"File and Printer Sharing" is a "no go" with XP home, and you
ABSOLUTELY-HAVE-TO-HAVE "XP Pro" ?

Will my prayers be answered with an upgrade to XP Pro ?

Or if I do upgrade, am I going to have just as much of a problem with
sharing ?

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P.S.

<<PLEASE NOTE>>

I would be more than quite happy if all I could do was only share a single
"share-folder" on each of the PCs (like in instant messaging) and being as
the Desktop is hard-wired to the printer I could just move the Word document
from the Notebook to the Desktop and print it from there !

At the moment I am having to email or CDr the documents (no floppy on
Notebook) - (I am also investigating Infra Red and Bluetooth as a solution
for Document Transfer)

Any advice would be VERY much appreciated.

Thanks...

NF

newsfroupie2004 wrote:
> Q. Do I need to upgrade from XP home for File and Printer Sharing ?
>
> I am completely new to this wireless game (3 days) although I have
> read a lot up on the various procedures.
>
> However, I am having an absolute nightmare (and daymare) with my
> wireless-B 802.11b set up.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Have Desktop and Notebook, both running XP home.
>
> Both are running NIS2003
>
> Was given (free) a Linksys BEFW11S4 for use with my Cable 1Mbps
> service.
> Both items are accessing the internet connection successfully without
> a problem.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I have followed (I thought carefully) the various XP office network
> installation wizards for "File and Printer Sharing" and have since
> gone through the trouble shooters a number of times, without any
> success so far.
> e.g., (rebooting each time) I have renamed both computers, etc, etc, a
> number of times, without success.
>
> Am I missing something simple here, or are the rumours really true
> that "File and Printer Sharing" is a "no go" with XP home, and you
> ABSOLUTELY-HAVE-TO-HAVE "XP Pro" ?
>
> Will my prayers be answered with an upgrade to XP Pro ?
>
> Or if I do upgrade, am I going to have just as much of a problem with
> sharing ?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> P.S.
>
> <<PLEASE NOTE>>
>
> I would be more than quite happy if all I could do was only share a
> single "share-folder" on each of the PCs (like in instant messaging)
> and being as the Desktop is hard-wired to the printer I could just
> move the Word document from the Notebook to the Desktop and print it
> from there !
> At the moment I am having to email or CDr the documents (no floppy on
> Notebook) - (I am also investigating Infra Red and Bluetooth as a
> solution for Document Transfer)
>
> Any advice would be VERY much appreciated.
>
> Thanks...
>
> NF

File and printer sharing works fine with XP Home. Perhaps you have a
firewall running. With ZoneAlarm, for example, you either need to disable
it or add each computer to the other computer's trusted zone.

The link may help you. If you have WEP enabled, it may prevent you from
sharing resouces with a wired machine and you may need to account for that
too.

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/guidshrh.htm

Duane

> newsfroupie2004 wrote:
>> Q. Do I need to upgrade from XP home for File and Printer Sharing ?
>>
>> I am completely new to this wireless game (3 days) although I have
>> read a lot up on the various procedures.
>>
>> However, I am having an absolute nightmare (and daymare) with my
>> wireless-B 802.11b set up.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Have Desktop and Notebook, both running XP home.
>>
>> Both are running NIS2003
>>
>> Was given (free) a Linksys BEFW11S4 for use with my Cable 1Mbps
>> service.
>> Both items are accessing the internet connection successfully without
>> a problem.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I have followed (I thought carefully) the various XP office network
>> installation wizards for "File and Printer Sharing" and have since
>> gone through the trouble shooters a number of times, without any
>> success so far.
>> e.g., (rebooting each time) I have renamed both computers, etc, etc, a
>> number of times, without success.
>>
>> Am I missing something simple here, or are the rumours really true
>> that "File and Printer Sharing" is a "no go" with XP home, and you
>> ABSOLUTELY-HAVE-TO-HAVE "XP Pro" ?
>>
>> Will my prayers be answered with an upgrade to XP Pro ?
>>
>> Or if I do upgrade, am I going to have just as much of a problem with
>> sharing ?
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> P.S.
>>
>> <<PLEASE NOTE>>
>>
>> I would be more than quite happy if all I could do was only share a
>> single "share-folder" on each of the PCs (like in instant messaging)
>> and being as the Desktop is hard-wired to the printer I could just
>> move the Word document from the Notebook to the Desktop and print it
>> from there !
>> At the moment I am having to email or CDr the documents (no floppy on
>> Notebook) - (I am also investigating Infra Red and Bluetooth as a
>> solution for Document Transfer)
>>
>> Any advice would be VERY much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> NF


"Gordo" <(E-Mail Removed)> kindly wrote:

> File and printer sharing works fine with XP Home. Perhaps you have a
> firewall running. With ZoneAlarm, for example, you either need to disable
> it or add each computer to the other computer's trusted zone.


Many thanks Gordo for your quick reply,

As I said :

>> Both are running NIS2003 (Norton Internet Security AV & FW)

With your prompt I will now look again at the NIS2003 firewall settings.

Mmm, I did also forget to mention that...

When I try to access either PC via "Microsoft Windows Network" I get the
following message pop-up box :

<quote>

Entire Network

(X)

Mshome (network name) is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup
is not currently available.

</quote>

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> kindly wrote:

> The link may help you. If you have WEP enabled, it may prevent you from
> sharing resouces with a wired machine and you may need to account for that
> too.
>
> http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/guidshrh.htm
>
> Duane

Many thanks for your speedy reply !

In my Google trawl I did not come across this link.

I will follow it's recommendations and report back !

Mmm, I did also forget to mention that...

When I try to access either PC via "Microsoft Windows Network" I get the
following message pop-up box :

<quote>

Entire Network

(X)

Mshome (network name) is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup
is not currently available.

</quote>

NF

newsfroupie2005 wrote:
>>newsfroupie2004 wrote:
>>
>>>Q. Do I need to upgrade from XP home for File and Printer Sharing ?
>>>
>>>I am completely new to this wireless game (3 days) although I have
>>>read a lot up on the various procedures.
>>>
>>>However, I am having an absolute nightmare (and daymare) with my
>>>wireless-B 802.11b set up.
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Have Desktop and Notebook, both running XP home.
>>>
>>>Both are running NIS2003
>>>
>>>Was given (free) a Linksys BEFW11S4 for use with my Cable 1Mbps
>>>service.
>>>Both items are accessing the internet connection successfully without
>>>a problem.
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>I have followed (I thought carefully) the various XP office network
>>>installation wizards for "File and Printer Sharing" and have since
>>>gone through the trouble shooters a number of times, without any
>>>success so far.
>>>e.g., (rebooting each time) I have renamed both computers, etc, etc, a
>>>number of times, without success.
>>>
>>>Am I missing something simple here, or are the rumours really true
>>>that "File and Printer Sharing" is a "no go" with XP home, and you
>>>ABSOLUTELY-HAVE-TO-HAVE "XP Pro" ?
>>>
>>>Will my prayers be answered with an upgrade to XP Pro ?
>>>
>>>Or if I do upgrade, am I going to have just as much of a problem with
>>>sharing ?
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>P.S.
>>>
>>><<PLEASE NOTE>>
>>>
>>>I would be more than quite happy if all I could do was only share a
>>>single "share-folder" on each of the PCs (like in instant messaging)
>>>and being as the Desktop is hard-wired to the printer I could just
>>>move the Word document from the Notebook to the Desktop and print it
>>>from there !
>>>At the moment I am having to email or CDr the documents (no floppy on
>>>Notebook) - (I am also investigating Infra Red and Bluetooth as a
>>>solution for Document Transfer)
>>>
>>>Any advice would be VERY much appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thanks...
>>>
>>>NF
>
>
>
> "Gordo" <(E-Mail Removed)> kindly wrote:
>
>
>>File and printer sharing works fine with XP Home. Perhaps you have a
>>firewall running. With ZoneAlarm, for example, you either need to disable
>>it or add each computer to the other computer's trusted zone.
>
>
>
> Many thanks Gordo for your quick reply,
>
> As I said :
>
>
>>>Both are running NIS2003 (Norton Internet Security AV & FW)
>
>
> With your prompt I will now look again at the NIS2003 firewall settings.
>
> Mmm, I did also forget to mention that...
>
> When I try to access either PC via "Microsoft Windows Network" I get the
> following message pop-up box :
>
> <quote>
>
> Entire Network
>
> (X)
>
> Mshome (network name) is not accessible. You might not have permission to
> use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
> out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup
> is not currently available.
>
> </quote>

Being a bona fide Norton hater, I'd disable or uninstall NIS and see if
things don't get better. Nothing gives me a more robust feeling of
well-being than uninstalling Norton Internet Security from a computer.

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 02:43:21 GMT, "newsfroupie2004"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Q. Do I need to upgrade from XP home for File and Printer Sharing ?

NO.

>Both items are accessing the internet connection successfully without a
>problem.

Ok, they're working.

>I have followed (I thought carefully) the various XP office network
>installation wizards for "File and Printer Sharing" and have since gone
>through the trouble shooters a number of times, without any success so far.

Well, you tried. My guess(tm) is that you have XP SP2 firewall
enabled. This is a good thing but does require a bit of tweaking to
work on a local network.
Control Panel -> Firewall Admin -> Exceptions tab
Check the box next to "File and Print Sharing" (or somethin like
that). Do it on both computahs.

You also need to mark the printer as shared. Go to the machine that
has the printer attached.
Control Panel -> Printers
Right click on the printer icon, and select "Sharing". Enable sharing
for the printer. A hand will appear under the icon to show that it's
shared.

Before you can use anything on a different computer, you have to have
a login on that computer. Make sure that BOTH computers have
identical user logins:
Control Panel -> Users
and identical passwords for identical users (except perhaps
administrator).

Also, be sure that the Workgroup name is identical on both machines.
Microsoft uses MSHOME but I prefer the older WORKGROUP. Right click
on the "My Computah" icon and select "Network Identification" tab and
then "Properties" to change the workgroup name.

>Am I missing something simple here, or are the rumours really true that
>"File and Printer Sharing" is a "no go" with XP home, and you
>ABSOLUTELY-HAVE-TO-HAVE "XP Pro" ?

Your rumors are false. There's no difference between Home and Pro
printing or networking unless you are on a big messy corporate LAN.
See:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article10-002
http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxpdifs.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...choosing2.mspx
for the differences.

>Will my prayers be answered with an upgrade to XP Pro ?

No. However, the prayers of Bill Gates will be answered if you
upgrade.

>Or if I do upgrade, am I going to have just as much of a problem with
>sharing ?

Sharing in Pro is the same as in Home. Your problems will remain.
What you need is a good step by step proceedure for dealing with
shares. Maybe using the Computer Management tool will help.
http://www.wown.com/articles_tutorials/wxpservr.html
It has all the shares and shared printers easily visible.



--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

"newsfroupie2005" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:il2Ed.6513$(E-Mail Removed) k:

>
> "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> kindly wrote:
>
>> The link may help you. If you have WEP enabled, it may prevent you
>> from sharing resouces with a wired machine and you may need to
>> account for that too.
>>
>> http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/guidshrh.htm
>>
>> Duane
>
> Many thanks for your speedy reply !
>
> In my Google trawl I did not come across this link.
>
> I will follow it's recommendations and report back !
>
> Mmm, I did also forget to mention that...
>
> When I try to access either PC via "Microsoft Windows Network" I get
> the following message pop-up box :
>
> <quote>
>
> Entire Network
>
> (X)
>
> Mshome (network name) is not accessible. You might not have permission
> to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server
> to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for
> this workgroup is not currently available.
>
> </quote>
>
> NF
>
>
>

You may have a need to set the protocols on the NIC's to match each
other.

I use the following:

1) Client for MS Networks
2) MS File and Print Sharing for MS Networks
3) Internet TCP/IP Protocol


Everything else has been removed from the NIC's on all machines but those
three on the wired and wireless machine for XP. I have no problems in
sharing resources on the machines.

You should make sure all machines are using the same Workgroup name like
blueyonder or whatever you choose as a Workgroup name.

You should also disable any personal firewalls on the machines until you
have networking and the sharing working with out them.

Duane

Actually, I have the exact same setup as you.....2 PC's running XP Home SP2
with DSL internet. My router is a Linksys BEFW11S4 (same as yours) and I
have wireless on both. The internet works fine on both and I can transfer
files between both no problem.

Kevin




"newsfroupie2004" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dT0Ed.6499$(E-Mail Removed) k...
> Q. Do I need to upgrade from XP home for File and Printer Sharing ?
>
> I am completely new to this wireless game (3 days) although I have read a
> lot up on the various procedures.
>
> However, I am having an absolute nightmare (and daymare) with my
> wireless-B 802.11b set up.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Have Desktop and Notebook, both running XP home.
>
> Both are running NIS2003
>
> Was given (free) a Linksys BEFW11S4 for use with my Cable 1Mbps service.
>

Sounds like you have to setup your sharing and permissons too.



> Mshome (network name) is not accessible. You might not have permission to
> use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
> find
> out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this
> workgroup
> is not currently available.
>
> </quote>
>
> NF
>