Will this do the job?

I'm a complete idiot when it comes to networking. Anything else technical, I
cope with, but not networking.

So, I'm looking to connect two PC's (desktop and laptop) and have them
connect to an ADSL service (yet to be purchased). I don't want loads of
boxes,so I'm looking for a wireless router with built in modem. To date, the
best guess I have is:

Netgear DG824M wireless router
Netgear MA311 PCI adapter
Netgear MA521 PCMCIA adapter

Does this look like it'll do the job? I'm tending towards this router
because of the integrated modem (one less box). The router will be on the
ground floor of the house and the PC's upstairs.

Also, does anyone have any experience of running this kind of kit off the
end of a telephone extension. If I can do that, then I can have the router
much closer to the PC's.

Finally, is it acceptable to setup the network before I get broadband (I'd
like that working first) and to add the broadband internet later. Will this
give me any configuration problems?

Thanks
Steve

Yes, it will do the job very well. Fantastic bit of kit (i've got one).
However, make sure you get the updated Firmware from Netgear's
site........you can't just install the latest version either. You'll need to
check which version you currently have (from the Netgear setip page), and
install the next update, and then the next, until you reach the most recent
(sounds like a pain, but it isn't). Have a look at:-

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware...ear-dg824m.asp

and also:-
http://www.netgear.com/support/products/DG824M.asp

Lastly, there is no problem using a telephone extension, providing you have
the microfilters etc in the right place. Mine is plugged into a DIY
extension kit I installed myself........runs like a dream.

If you need any further info, please shout. Hope this helps.

"Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bn5arn$j5h$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm a complete idiot when it comes to networking. Anything else technical,
I
> cope with, but not networking.
>
> So, I'm looking to connect two PC's (desktop and laptop) and have them
> connect to an ADSL service (yet to be purchased). I don't want loads of
> boxes,so I'm looking for a wireless router with built in modem. To date,
the
> best guess I have is:
>
> Netgear DG824M wireless router
> Netgear MA311 PCI adapter
> Netgear MA521 PCMCIA adapter
>
> Does this look like it'll do the job? I'm tending towards this router
> because of the integrated modem (one less box). The router will be on the
> ground floor of the house and the PC's upstairs.
>
> Also, does anyone have any experience of running this kind of kit off the
> end of a telephone extension. If I can do that, then I can have the router
> much closer to the PC's.
>
> Finally, is it acceptable to setup the network before I get broadband (I'd
> like that working first) and to add the broadband internet later. Will
this
> give me any configuration problems?
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
>
>

John

Thanks for this. I too have a self-installed telephone extension, so I'm
pleased to see that yours works this way; It'll save a lot of complaints
about new boxes and fights over the power outlet! I've downloaded the manual
and plan to have a read (given my lack of networking confidence).

One more question if I may. Can I install this kit and use it as a local
network without connecting to an ADSL broadband service? I plan on getting
networked first then signing up to PlusNet or Pipex later. A friend bought
the BT kit and that came with dire warnings about not using the router until
his line had been upgraded.

Steve


"John Pearse" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Yes, it will do the job very well. Fantastic bit of kit (i've got one).
| However, make sure you get the updated Firmware from Netgear's
| site........you can't just install the latest version either. You'll need
to
| check which version you currently have (from the Netgear setip page), and
| install the next update, and then the next, until you reach the most
recent
| (sounds like a pain, but it isn't). Have a look at:-
|
| http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware...ear-dg824m.asp
|
| and also:-
| http://www.netgear.com/support/products/DG824M.asp
|
| Lastly, there is no problem using a telephone extension, providing you
have
| the microfilters etc in the right place. Mine is plugged into a DIY
| extension kit I installed myself........runs like a dream.
|
| If you need any further info, please shout. Hope this helps.
|
| "Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:bn5arn$j5h$(E-Mail Removed)...
| > I'm a complete idiot when it comes to networking. Anything else
technical,
| I
| > cope with, but not networking.
| >
| > So, I'm looking to connect two PC's (desktop and laptop) and have them
| > connect to an ADSL service (yet to be purchased). I don't want loads of
| > boxes,so I'm looking for a wireless router with built in modem. To date,
| the
| > best guess I have is:
| >
| > Netgear DG824M wireless router
| > Netgear MA311 PCI adapter
| > Netgear MA521 PCMCIA adapter
| >
| > Does this look like it'll do the job? I'm tending towards this router
| > because of the integrated modem (one less box). The router will be on
the
| > ground floor of the house and the PC's upstairs.
| >
| > Also, does anyone have any experience of running this kind of kit off
the
| > end of a telephone extension. If I can do that, then I can have the
router
| > much closer to the PC's.
| >
| > Finally, is it acceptable to setup the network before I get broadband
(I'd
| > like that working first) and to add the broadband internet later. Will
| this
| > give me any configuration problems?
| >
| > Thanks
| > Steve
| >
| >
| >
|
|

Steve,

Can't say i've tried it, but I can't think of any reason why not. When I
installed mine, I got ADSL working first, and sorted out the home networking
afterwards. The ADSL connection side of things is just one of many settings
within the web-based setup screens, which can be altered at any time. You
certainly won't do any harm in trying it out, as the Router can easily be
reset to factory default values if you mess things up.

The review on Adslguide actually tells you alot more than the manual (!!),
so it's well worth a good read of that.

Where are you thinking of buying the kit from? Got mine from
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/ who were very good. They also have a deal
where it's bundled with the MA521, which might save you a few quid:-
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...&ProductID=353

John.

"Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bn5m84$apj$(E-Mail Removed)...
> John
>
> Thanks for this. I too have a self-installed telephone extension, so I'm
> pleased to see that yours works this way; It'll save a lot of complaints
> about new boxes and fights over the power outlet! I've downloaded the
manual
> and plan to have a read (given my lack of networking confidence).
>
> One more question if I may. Can I install this kit and use it as a local
> network without connecting to an ADSL broadband service? I plan on getting
> networked first then signing up to PlusNet or Pipex later. A friend bought
> the BT kit and that came with dire warnings about not using the router
until
> his line had been upgraded.
>
> Steve
>
>
> "John Pearse" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | Yes, it will do the job very well. Fantastic bit of kit (i've got one).
> | However, make sure you get the updated Firmware from Netgear's
> | site........you can't just install the latest version either. You'll
need
> to
> | check which version you currently have (from the Netgear setip page),
and
> | install the next update, and then the next, until you reach the most
> recent
> | (sounds like a pain, but it isn't). Have a look at:-
> |
> | http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware...ear-dg824m.asp
> |
> | and also:-
> | http://www.netgear.com/support/products/DG824M.asp
> |
> | Lastly, there is no problem using a telephone extension, providing you
> have
> | the microfilters etc in the right place. Mine is plugged into a DIY
> | extension kit I installed myself........runs like a dream.
> |
> | If you need any further info, please shout. Hope this helps.
> |
> | "Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:bn5arn$j5h$(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > I'm a complete idiot when it comes to networking. Anything else
> technical,
> | I
> | > cope with, but not networking.
> | >
> | > So, I'm looking to connect two PC's (desktop and laptop) and have them
> | > connect to an ADSL service (yet to be purchased). I don't want loads
of
> | > boxes,so I'm looking for a wireless router with built in modem. To
date,
> | the
> | > best guess I have is:
> | >
> | > Netgear DG824M wireless router
> | > Netgear MA311 PCI adapter
> | > Netgear MA521 PCMCIA adapter
> | >
> | > Does this look like it'll do the job? I'm tending towards this router
> | > because of the integrated modem (one less box). The router will be on
> the
> | > ground floor of the house and the PC's upstairs.
> | >
> | > Also, does anyone have any experience of running this kind of kit off
> the
> | > end of a telephone extension. If I can do that, then I can have the
> router
> | > much closer to the PC's.
> | >
> | > Finally, is it acceptable to setup the network before I get broadband
> (I'd
> | > like that working first) and to add the broadband internet later. Will
> | this
> | > give me any configuration problems?
> | >
> | > Thanks
> | > Steve
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

"Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bn5arn$j5h$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm a complete idiot when it comes to networking. Anything else technical,
I
> cope with, but not networking.
>
> So, I'm looking to connect two PC's (desktop and laptop) and have them
> connect to an ADSL service (yet to be purchased). I don't want loads of
> boxes,so I'm looking for a wireless router with built in modem. To date,
the
> best guess I have is:
>
> Netgear DG824M wireless router
> Netgear MA311 PCI adapter
> Netgear MA521 PCMCIA adapter
>
> Does this look like it'll do the job?

Yes - but the DG824M is due to be replaced with the DG834G so you may want
to wait a few weeks if you can for the later model.

> Also, does anyone have any experience of running this kind of kit off the
> end of a telephone extension. If I can do that, then I can have the router
> much closer to the PC's.

Telephone extensions will work..

> Finally, is it acceptable to setup the network before I get broadband (I'd
> like that working first) and to add the broadband internet later.

Thats fine.

Regards
Sunil

Appreciate the news of the 834G.. I can certainly afford to wait a couple of
weeks. I'm only doing this because of the really crummy service I'm, getting
from BT Openworld Anytime dialup, so I can live with it for a couple more
weeks.

Thanks
Steve


"Sunil Sood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bn5r9q$s8inf$(E-Mail Removed)...
|
| "Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:bn5arn$j5h$(E-Mail Removed)...
| > I'm a complete idiot when it comes to networking. Anything else
technical,
| I
| > cope with, but not networking.
| >
| > So, I'm looking to connect two PC's (desktop and laptop) and have them
| > connect to an ADSL service (yet to be purchased). I don't want loads of
| > boxes,so I'm looking for a wireless router with built in modem. To date,
| the
| > best guess I have is:
| >
| > Netgear DG824M wireless router
| > Netgear MA311 PCI adapter
| > Netgear MA521 PCMCIA adapter
| >
| > Does this look like it'll do the job?
|
| Yes - but the DG824M is due to be replaced with the DG834G so you may want
| to wait a few weeks if you can for the later model.
|
| > Also, does anyone have any experience of running this kind of kit off
the
| > end of a telephone extension. If I can do that, then I can have the
router
| > much closer to the PC's.
|
| Telephone extensions will work..
|
| > Finally, is it acceptable to setup the network before I get broadband
(I'd
| > like that working first) and to add the broadband internet later.
|
| Thats fine.
|
| Regards
| Sunil
|
|

John

Hadn't decided on a place to buy yet. I came up with the idea of the NetGear
kit from an old MISCO catalogue, so would probably have bought there.

Problem now is that Sunil has suggested the DG834G, which I assume will be
802.11g, so faster. Why can't technology stand still for a month or two so I
an buy something that won't be obsolete before it gets delivered! I'll
checkout BroadBandBuyer...

I have to get off BT OpenWord Anytime dialup... the line has dropped twice
while I was typing this <short> message!

Thanks
Steve



"John Pearse" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| Steve,
|
| Can't say i've tried it, but I can't think of any reason why not. When I
| installed mine, I got ADSL working first, and sorted out the home
networking
| afterwards. The ADSL connection side of things is just one of many
settings
| within the web-based setup screens, which can be altered at any time. You
| certainly won't do any harm in trying it out, as the Router can easily be
| reset to factory default values if you mess things up.
|
| The review on Adslguide actually tells you alot more than the manual (!!),
| so it's well worth a good read of that.
|
| Where are you thinking of buying the kit from? Got mine from
| http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/ who were very good. They also have a deal
| where it's bundled with the MA521, which might save you a few quid:-
|
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...&ProductID=353
|
| John.
|
| "Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:bn5m84$apj$(E-Mail Removed)...
| > John
| >
| > Thanks for this. I too have a self-installed telephone extension, so I'm
| > pleased to see that yours works this way; It'll save a lot of complaints
| > about new boxes and fights over the power outlet! I've downloaded the
| manual
| > and plan to have a read (given my lack of networking confidence).
| >
| > One more question if I may. Can I install this kit and use it as a local
| > network without connecting to an ADSL broadband service? I plan on
getting
| > networked first then signing up to PlusNet or Pipex later. A friend
bought
| > the BT kit and that came with dire warnings about not using the router
| until
| > his line had been upgraded.
| >
| > Steve
| >
| >
| > "John Pearse" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| > | Yes, it will do the job very well. Fantastic bit of kit (i've got
one).
| > | However, make sure you get the updated Firmware from Netgear's
| > | site........you can't just install the latest version either. You'll
| need
| > to
| > | check which version you currently have (from the Netgear setip page),
| and
| > | install the next update, and then the next, until you reach the most
| > recent
| > | (sounds like a pain, but it isn't). Have a look at:-
| > |
| > |
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware...ear-dg824m.asp
| > |
| > | and also:-
| > | http://www.netgear.com/support/products/DG824M.asp
| > |
| > | Lastly, there is no problem using a telephone extension, providing you
| > have
| > | the microfilters etc in the right place. Mine is plugged into a DIY
| > | extension kit I installed myself........runs like a dream.
| > |
| > | If you need any further info, please shout. Hope this helps.
| > |
| > | "Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > | news:bn5arn$j5h$(E-Mail Removed)...
| > | > I'm a complete idiot when it comes to networking. Anything else
| > technical,
| > | I
| > | > cope with, but not networking.
| > | >
| > | > So, I'm looking to connect two PC's (desktop and laptop) and have
them
| > | > connect to an ADSL service (yet to be purchased). I don't want loads
| of
| > | > boxes,so I'm looking for a wireless router with built in modem. To
| date,
| > | the
| > | > best guess I have is:
| > | >
| > | > Netgear DG824M wireless router
| > | > Netgear MA311 PCI adapter
| > | > Netgear MA521 PCMCIA adapter
| > | >
| > | > Does this look like it'll do the job? I'm tending towards this
router
| > | > because of the integrated modem (one less box). The router will be
on
| > the
| > | > ground floor of the house and the PC's upstairs.
| > | >
| > | > Also, does anyone have any experience of running this kind of kit
off
| > the
| > | > end of a telephone extension. If I can do that, then I can have the
| > router
| > | > much closer to the PC's.
| > | >
| > | > Finally, is it acceptable to setup the network before I get
broadband
| > (I'd
| > | > like that working first) and to add the broadband internet later.
Will
| > | this
| > | > give me any configuration problems?
| > | >
| > | > Thanks
| > | > Steve
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

"Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bn5sv3$n90$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Problem now is that Sunil has suggested the DG834G, which I assume will be
> 802.11g, so faster. Why can't technology stand still for a month or two so
I
> an buy something that won't be obsolete before it gets delivered! I'll
> checkout BroadBandBuyer...

Also have a look at Ebuyer - a lot of their prices for this kind of kit seem
to be quite competitive.

Yes, the DG834G is 802.11g based (backwards compatible) - the "G" referring
to its wireless capablity, as their will be a DG834 (non wireless version)
as well.

There are also several other manufacturers as well - they are all mainly due
to release their "all in one" 802.11g routers within the next month or so..

Regards
Sunil

Steve,

I've heard rumblings about the 834G, but not seen any confirmation on
release dates yet......nothing on Netgear's web site either. You might also
be paying through the nose for it when it is first released, where as the
824M is a very nice price at the moment. If you're going to be shifting
large amounts of data over your network, then you might benefit from 802.11g
over 802.11b. If it's for wireless broadband access only, then you'll see no
difference, except (PERHAPS) the range on 802.11g is better. Maybe someone
else could confirm this.

John.


"Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bn5sv3$n90$(E-Mail Removed)...
> John
>
> Hadn't decided on a place to buy yet. I came up with the idea of the
NetGear
> kit from an old MISCO catalogue, so would probably have bought there.
>
> Problem now is that Sunil has suggested the DG834G, which I assume will be
> 802.11g, so faster. Why can't technology stand still for a month or two so
I
> an buy something that won't be obsolete before it gets delivered! I'll
> checkout BroadBandBuyer...
>
> I have to get off BT OpenWord Anytime dialup... the line has dropped twice
> while I was typing this <short> message!
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
>
>
> "John Pearse" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | Steve,
> |
> | Can't say i've tried it, but I can't think of any reason why not. When I
> | installed mine, I got ADSL working first, and sorted out the home
> networking
> | afterwards. The ADSL connection side of things is just one of many
> settings
> | within the web-based setup screens, which can be altered at any time.
You
> | certainly won't do any harm in trying it out, as the Router can easily
be
> | reset to factory default values if you mess things up.
> |
> | The review on Adslguide actually tells you alot more than the manual
(!!),
> | so it's well worth a good read of that.
> |
> | Where are you thinking of buying the kit from? Got mine from
> | http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/ who were very good. They also have a
deal
> | where it's bundled with the MA521, which might save you a few quid:-
> |
>
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...&ProductID=353
> |
> | John.
> |
> | "Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:bn5m84$apj$(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > John
> | >
> | > Thanks for this. I too have a self-installed telephone extension, so
I'm
> | > pleased to see that yours works this way; It'll save a lot of
complaints
> | > about new boxes and fights over the power outlet! I've downloaded the
> | manual
> | > and plan to have a read (given my lack of networking confidence).
> | >
> | > One more question if I may. Can I install this kit and use it as a
local
> | > network without connecting to an ADSL broadband service? I plan on
> getting
> | > networked first then signing up to PlusNet or Pipex later. A friend
> bought
> | > the BT kit and that came with dire warnings about not using the router
> | until
> | > his line had been upgraded.
> | >
> | > Steve
> | >
> | >
> | > "John Pearse" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > | Yes, it will do the job very well. Fantastic bit of kit (i've got
> one).
> | > | However, make sure you get the updated Firmware from Netgear's
> | > | site........you can't just install the latest version either. You'll
> | need
> | > to
> | > | check which version you currently have (from the Netgear setip
page),
> | and
> | > | install the next update, and then the next, until you reach the most
> | > recent
> | > | (sounds like a pain, but it isn't). Have a look at:-
> | > |
> | > |
> http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware...ear-dg824m.asp
> | > |
> | > | and also:-
> | > | http://www.netgear.com/support/products/DG824M.asp
> | > |
> | > | Lastly, there is no problem using a telephone extension, providing
you
> | > have
> | > | the microfilters etc in the right place. Mine is plugged into a DIY
> | > | extension kit I installed myself........runs like a dream.
> | > |
> | > | If you need any further info, please shout. Hope this helps.
> | > |
> | > | "Steve Barnett" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | > | news:bn5arn$j5h$(E-Mail Removed)...
> | > | > I'm a complete idiot when it comes to networking. Anything else
> | > technical,
> | > | I
> | > | > cope with, but not networking.
> | > | >
> | > | > So, I'm looking to connect two PC's (desktop and laptop) and have
> them
> | > | > connect to an ADSL service (yet to be purchased). I don't want
loads
> | of
> | > | > boxes,so I'm looking for a wireless router with built in modem. To
> | date,
> | > | the
> | > | > best guess I have is:
> | > | >
> | > | > Netgear DG824M wireless router
> | > | > Netgear MA311 PCI adapter
> | > | > Netgear MA521 PCMCIA adapter
> | > | >
> | > | > Does this look like it'll do the job? I'm tending towards this
> router
> | > | > because of the integrated modem (one less box). The router will be
> on
> | > the
> | > | > ground floor of the house and the PC's upstairs.
> | > | >
> | > | > Also, does anyone have any experience of running this kind of kit
> off
> | > the
> | > | > end of a telephone extension. If I can do that, then I can have
the
> | > router
> | > | > much closer to the PC's.
> | > | >
> | > | > Finally, is it acceptable to setup the network before I get
> broadband
> | > (I'd
> | > | > like that working first) and to add the broadband internet later.
> Will
> | > | this
> | > | > give me any configuration problems?
> | > | >
> | > | > Thanks
> | > | > Steve
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

In article <bn5m84$apj$(E-Mail Removed)>, Steve Barnett wrote:
> One more question if I may. Can I install this kit and use it as a local
> network without connecting to an ADSL broadband service? I plan on getting
> networked first then signing up to PlusNet or Pipex later. A friend bought
> the BT kit and that came with dire warnings about not using the router until
> his line had been upgraded.

Yes you can. I did. It worked. (different brand of router, but same principle).

I think the warnings are given to reduce the number of customer complaints from
people who may not fully understand that it is possible for the ADSL carrier
indicator lamp on the box to light up several days before the full connection
is completed to your ISP. I can't think of any hardware-related reason.

Rod.