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Sketch
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      09-16-2004, 01:37 PM

 
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      09-16-2004, 01:42 PM
Well since I realize that many people don't read the subject I'll
actually post in the body the answer. (You really should have posted
the question in the body as well as the subject because of this.)

Follow the following directions.

Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500,
or MN-700 #2
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500,
or MN-700 #3 (if available)

Make sure all MN-100s & MN-500s are running the latest firmware 1.11.017

Make sure all MN-700s are running the latest firmware 2.01.02.0590

Now lets look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700:

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
router mode
LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
some SSID (if wireless)
some WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
channel 6 (if wireless)

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #2
bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP range
same SSID (if wireless)
same WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
channel 1 (if wireless)

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if available)
bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP range
same SSID (if wireless)
same WEP key or WPA key if MN-700 (if wireless)
channel 11 (if wireless)


If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (if using the MN-700) the
same for all base stations, people will be able to move between
locations and get a connection.

If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless routers you will
have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch between wireless
networks.

You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base stations to
prevent interference.

Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels between them as 1, 6,
& 11 do.

Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping channels.

There are more combinations if you only need two channels.

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      09-16-2004, 02:17 PM
Here is an updated version that includes information about making the
network totally wireless. I don't personally recommend that though.

One of the two following hardware configurations will allow you to
expand your Microsoft Broadband Network.

The first one is connected via wires & the second one is connected via
wireless.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wired connection configuration information.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of MN-500 or MN-700 #2
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of MN-500 or
MN-700 #3 (if available)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wireless connection configuration information.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

(For this configuration you can only use WEP & MAC filtering, for
wireless security, because the MN-740 doesn't support WPA.)

Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-500 or MN-700 #1
MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #2
MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if available)

You will have to configure each MN-740 on an Xbox to connect to the
wireless network you want the second & third router to connect to.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
General configuration information for both network connection types.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Make sure all MN-100's & MN-500's are running the latest firmware which
is 1.11.017

Make sure all MN-700's are running the latest firmware which is 2.01.02.0590

Make sure all MN-740's are running the latest firmware which is 1.00.02.0021

Now let's look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700:

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
Router mode
LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
Some SSID (if wireless)
Some WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 6 (if wireless)

MN-500 or MN-700 #2
Bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP range
Same SSID
Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 1

MN-500 or MN-700 #3 (if available)
Bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP range
Same SSID
Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 11


If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network
supports WPA) the same for all base stations, people will be able to
move between locations and get a connection, without needing to change
there configuration as they move.

If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless routers you will
have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch between wireless
networks.

You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base stations to
prevent interference.

Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels between them as 1, 6,
& 11 do.

Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping channels.

There are more combinations if you only need two channels.

One last note 2.4 & many 5.8 GHz phones (The models that use the 2.4 GHz
frequency as well as the 5.8 GHZ frequency) will cause interference with
802.11b & 802.11g wireless networking hardware, as 802.11b & 802.11g
both use the 2.4 GHz frequency.


joker wrote:

> Well since I realize that many people don't read the subject I'll
> actually post in the body the answer. (You really should have posted
> the question in the body as well as the subject because of this.)
>
> Sketch wrote:
>


 
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      09-19-2004, 09:08 PM
Joker,

Thank you for the detailed explanation below. I am also
trying to extend the range of my MN-700, using a second MN-
700 as an access point. I thought that configuring the
2nd one and having in within range of the router one,
would make it work as a signal extender. I guess I was
wrong... Since I really don't want to run any wires from
one MN-700 to the other, I liked your MN-740 "totally
wireless" suggestion below. Given how ignorant I am
though, was wondering if you could explain what the MN-740
actually does in this set-up and whether I need any
additional equipment here. The MS website product
specification for the MN-740 is a little confusing --
system requirements include "Microsoft Xbox® video game
system with available Ethernet port to set up the XBox
Wireless Adapter. After the adapter is configured, you can
use it on any Ethernet-enabled device." Do I need this
video game or anything else to make your suggestion work?
Many thanks!


>-----Original Message-----
>Here is an updated version that includes information

about making the
>network totally wireless. I don't personally recommend

that though.
>
>One of the two following hardware configurations will

allow you to
>expand your Microsoft Broadband Network.
>
>The first one is connected via wires & the second one is

connected via
>wireless.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------

---------------
>Wired connection configuration information.
>----------------------------------------------------------

---------------
>
>Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700

#1
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of

MN-500 or MN-700 #2
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of

MN-500 or
>MN-700 #3 (if available)
>
>----------------------------------------------------------

---------------
>Wireless connection configuration information.
>----------------------------------------------------------

---------------
>
>(For this configuration you can only use WEP & MAC

filtering, for
>wireless security, because the MN-740 doesn't support

WPA.)
>
>Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-500 or MN-700 #1
>MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #2
>MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if available)
>
>You will have to configure each MN-740 on an Xbox to

connect to the
>wireless network you want the second & third router to

connect to.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------

---------------
>General configuration information for both network

connection types.
>----------------------------------------------------------

---------------
>
>Make sure all MN-100's & MN-500's are running the latest

firmware which
>is 1.11.017
>
>Make sure all MN-700's are running the latest firmware

which is 2.01.02.0590
>
>Make sure all MN-740's are running the latest firmware

which is 1.00.02.0021
>
>Now let's look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or MN-

700:
>
>MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
>Router mode
>LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
>Some SSID (if wireless)
>Some WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports

WPA)
>Channel 6 (if wireless)
>
>MN-500 or MN-700 #2
>Bridge mode
>LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP

range
>Same SSID
>Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports

WPA)
>Channel 1
>
>MN-500 or MN-700 #3 (if available)
>Bridge mode
>LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP

range
>Same SSID
>Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports

WPA)
>Channel 11
>
>
>If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (If the

entire network
>supports WPA) the same for all base stations, people will

be able to
>move between locations and get a connection, without

needing to change
>there configuration as they move.
>
>If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless

routers you will
>have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch

between wireless
>networks.
>
>You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base

stations to
>prevent interference.
>
>Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels between

them as 1, 6,
>& 11 do.
>
>Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping

channels.
>
>There are more combinations if you only need two channels.
>
>One last note 2.4 & many 5.8 GHz phones (The models that

use the 2.4 GHz
>frequency as well as the 5.8 GHZ frequency) will cause

interference with
>802.11b & 802.11g wireless networking hardware, as

802.11b & 802.11g
>both use the 2.4 GHz frequency.
>
>
>joker wrote:
>
>> Well since I realize that many people don't read the

subject I'll
>> actually post in the body the answer. (You really

should have posted
>> the question in the body as well as the subject because

of this.)
>>
>> Sketch wrote:
>>

>
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