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Ther Richardson
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      04-27-2007, 01:08 PM
I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
otherbuilding.org.

In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by me,
several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should the new
domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server? At some point very soon
Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep residents from the domain
ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers servers printers etc. on
building.org. the three servers in question are

building.org 192.168.1.198 Primary DNS server
building.org 192.168.1.199 Backup/Secondary DNS server.
Both point at themselves first and have the other as secondary

otherbuilding.org 192.168.1.11 During DCPOMO it installed and auto
configured DNS I have tweaked it just enough so it does not have the
loopback address in it instead of 192.168.11

My questions are...
Do I need DNS on the new server in otherbuilding.org?
If yes what should I make the pri and sec DNS addresses?

Sorry, but I cross posted to networking as well.


Ther Richardson

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VFW National Home for Children


 
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Greg Lindsay [MSFT]
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      04-27-2007, 09:42 PM
As long as the DNS servers are on a port that is a member of both the
building.org VLAN and the otherbuilding.org VLAN (a multi-VLAN port), then
you don't need a new DNS server. Both buildings can use the same servers.
However, you will need to make sure that both domains are served from these
DNS servers. Both buildings would then be able to resolve hosts on both
networks, but they would only be able to reach hosts on their VLAN.

If you restrict the DNS servers to the building.org VLAN, then you'll need
DNS on the otherbuilding.org VLAN. There won't be a secondary DNS server or
secondary DC if you only have the one server on this VLAN. There would be a
client primary DNS server setting, but the secondary would be blank.

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"Ther Richardson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
> otherbuilding.org.
>
> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by me,
> several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should the new
> domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server? At some point very
> soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep residents from the
> domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers servers printers etc. on
> building.org. the three servers in question are
>
> building.org 192.168.1.198 Primary DNS server
> building.org 192.168.1.199 Backup/Secondary DNS server.
> Both point at themselves first and have the other as secondary
>
> otherbuilding.org 192.168.1.11 During DCPOMO it installed and auto
> configured DNS I have tweaked it just enough so it does not have the
> loopback address in it instead of 192.168.11
>
> My questions are...
> Do I need DNS on the new server in otherbuilding.org?
> If yes what should I make the pri and sec DNS addresses?
>
> Sorry, but I cross posted to networking as well.
>
>
> Ther Richardson
>
> Systems Administrator
>
> VFW National Home for Children
>



 
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Ther Richardson
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      04-30-2007, 05:07 PM
Any thoughts on why my dns server can see all the other computers on this
domain and the first domain but not itself? Likewise all other computers
can see all other computers accept new server. it does not apper in any
browser.

"Greg Lindsay [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> As long as the DNS servers are on a port that is a member of both the
> building.org VLAN and the otherbuilding.org VLAN (a multi-VLAN port), then
> you don't need a new DNS server. Both buildings can use the same servers.
> However, you will need to make sure that both domains are served from
> these DNS servers. Both buildings would then be able to resolve hosts on
> both networks, but they would only be able to reach hosts on their VLAN.
>
> If you restrict the DNS servers to the building.org VLAN, then you'll need
> DNS on the otherbuilding.org VLAN. There won't be a secondary DNS server
> or secondary DC if you only have the one server on this VLAN. There would
> be a client primary DNS server setting, but the secondary would be blank.
>
> --
> Greg Lindsay [MSFT]
>
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
>
> "Ther Richardson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
>> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
>> otherbuilding.org.
>>
>> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by me,
>> several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should the new
>> domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server? At some point very
>> soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep residents from the
>> domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers servers printers etc. on
>> building.org. the three servers in question are
>>
>> building.org 192.168.1.198 Primary DNS server
>> building.org 192.168.1.199 Backup/Secondary DNS server.
>> Both point at themselves first and have the other as secondary
>>
>> otherbuilding.org 192.168.1.11 During DCPOMO it installed and auto
>> configured DNS I have tweaked it just enough so it does not have the
>> loopback address in it instead of 192.168.11
>>
>> My questions are...
>> Do I need DNS on the new server in otherbuilding.org?
>> If yes what should I make the pri and sec DNS addresses?
>>
>> Sorry, but I cross posted to networking as well.
>>
>>
>> Ther Richardson
>>
>> Systems Administrator
>>
>> VFW National Home for Children
>>

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Greg Lindsay [MSFT]
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      04-30-2007, 07:44 PM
When you say the DNS server cannot see itself, what do you mean?

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"Ther Richardson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Any thoughts on why my dns server can see all the other computers on this
> domain and the first domain but not itself? Likewise all other computers
> can see all other computers accept new server. it does not apper in any
> browser.
>
> "Greg Lindsay [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> As long as the DNS servers are on a port that is a member of both the
>> building.org VLAN and the otherbuilding.org VLAN (a multi-VLAN port),
>> then you don't need a new DNS server. Both buildings can use the same
>> servers. However, you will need to make sure that both domains are served
>> from these DNS servers. Both buildings would then be able to resolve
>> hosts on both networks, but they would only be able to reach hosts on
>> their VLAN.
>>
>> If you restrict the DNS servers to the building.org VLAN, then you'll
>> need DNS on the otherbuilding.org VLAN. There won't be a secondary DNS
>> server or secondary DC if you only have the one server on this VLAN.
>> There would be a client primary DNS server setting, but the secondary
>> would be blank.
>>
>> --
>> Greg Lindsay [MSFT]
>>
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>>
>> "Ther Richardson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
>>> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
>>> otherbuilding.org.
>>>
>>> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by me,
>>> several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should the
>>> new domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server? At some point
>>> very soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep residents from
>>> the domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers servers printers
>>> etc. on building.org. the three servers in question are
>>>
>>> building.org 192.168.1.198 Primary DNS server
>>> building.org 192.168.1.199 Backup/Secondary DNS server.
>>> Both point at themselves first and have the other as secondary
>>>
>>> otherbuilding.org 192.168.1.11 During DCPOMO it installed and auto
>>> configured DNS I have tweaked it just enough so it does not have the
>>> loopback address in it instead of 192.168.11
>>>
>>> My questions are...
>>> Do I need DNS on the new server in otherbuilding.org?
>>> If yes what should I make the pri and sec DNS addresses?
>>>
>>> Sorry, but I cross posted to networking as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ther Richardson
>>>
>>> Systems Administrator
>>>
>>> VFW National Home for Children
>>>

>>
>>

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      05-03-2007, 12:26 PM
Sorry I was off yesterday.

If i explore network neighborhood i can see all the other computers in the
two domains in the kist but the dns server in the new domain does not show
up with them.
right click start chooses explore.....work my way down to entire microsoft
network and I see all the other servers and workstations save one, the new
dns server in the new domain.
"Greg Lindsay [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eGErr$(E-Mail Removed)...
> When you say the DNS server cannot see itself, what do you mean?
>
> --
> Greg Lindsay [MSFT]
>
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
>
> "Ther Richardson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Any thoughts on why my dns server can see all the other computers on this
>> domain and the first domain but not itself? Likewise all other computers
>> can see all other computers accept new server. it does not apper in any
>> browser.
>>
>> "Greg Lindsay [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> As long as the DNS servers are on a port that is a member of both the
>>> building.org VLAN and the otherbuilding.org VLAN (a multi-VLAN port),
>>> then you don't need a new DNS server. Both buildings can use the same
>>> servers. However, you will need to make sure that both domains are
>>> served from these DNS servers. Both buildings would then be able to
>>> resolve hosts on both networks, but they would only be able to reach
>>> hosts on their VLAN.
>>>
>>> If you restrict the DNS servers to the building.org VLAN, then you'll
>>> need DNS on the otherbuilding.org VLAN. There won't be a secondary DNS
>>> server or secondary DC if you only have the one server on this VLAN.
>>> There would be a client primary DNS server setting, but the secondary
>>> would be blank.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Greg Lindsay [MSFT]
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>>
>>> "Ther Richardson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I have a Win 2003 Native domain, for example we will call it
>>>> building.org. I am setting up a second domain in the forest that will
>>>> otherbuilding.org.
>>>>
>>>> In building.org I have 2 Win 2003 servers running DNS all set up (by
>>>> me, several years ago, and now I don't remember much about it) should
>>>> the new domain ortherbuilding.org have its own DNS server? At some
>>>> point very soon Cisco will be putting in place VLANs to keep residents
>>>> from the domain ortherbuilding.org from seeing computers servers
>>>> printers etc. on building.org. the three servers in question are
>>>>
>>>> building.org 192.168.1.198 Primary DNS server
>>>> building.org 192.168.1.199 Backup/Secondary DNS server.
>>>> Both point at themselves first and have the other as secondary
>>>>
>>>> otherbuilding.org 192.168.1.11 During DCPOMO it installed and auto
>>>> configured DNS I have tweaked it just enough so it does not have the
>>>> loopback address in it instead of 192.168.11
>>>>
>>>> My questions are...
>>>> Do I need DNS on the new server in otherbuilding.org?
>>>> If yes what should I make the pri and sec DNS addresses?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but I cross posted to networking as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ther Richardson
>>>>
>>>> Systems Administrator
>>>>
>>>> VFW National Home for Children
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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