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      01-16-2006, 03:44 AM
I have a 700 AP (only 54mbps) that I intend to change over to a 2100AP.
Dlink advise keep the settings the same but they are different screens
within and they have not replied to my support emails. Does anyone know how
the settings should translate.

TIA
CDs


 
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      01-17-2006, 01:05 AM

"cds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a 700 AP (only 54mbps) that I intend to change over to a 2100AP.
> Dlink advise keep the settings the same but they are different screens
> within and they have not replied to my support emails. Does anyone know

how
> the settings should translate.
>
> TIA
> CDs


I have a number of DWL-7100AP's, which are identical to your intended
DWL-2100AP (except the DWL-7100AP, in addition to 802.11g/b, also
incorporates 802.11a).

The main differences you'll find between the DWL-2100AP and your DWL-700AP
is that the DWL-2100AP:

- Allows for multiple modes (AP, bridge, repeater, client)

- Allows for use of DLink's proprietary "108 Mbps Turbo", if your client
hardware also supports it

- Allows for use of WPA, if your client hardware(s) and OS(s) support it

You can't load a stored settings file from the DWL-700AP into the
DWL-2100AP, but setting up the DWL-2100AP won't be all that much different
than it was with the DWL-700AP.

I'm assuming you plan on using it as an AP, so under ADVANCED/MODE keep set
as "Access Point".

Under ADVANCED/PERFORMANCE, the only new thing that might make you scratch
your head for a moment are the "Turbos" in "Super G Mode":

- "Super G without Turbo", is simply that. It won't attempt to use the
proprietary (108 Mbps) Turbo with any connecting clients.

- "Super G with Static Turbo" means that only clients capable of the
propriertary (108 Mbps) Turbo can connect.

- "Super G with Dynamic Turbo" means that both vanilla clients and clients
with propriertary (108 Mbps) Turbo can connect. However, as soon as a
non-turbo vanilla client connects, everything connected falls back to
vanilla 802.11g.

In either Static or Dynamic Turbo, your client hardware(s) must be capable
of DLink's propriertary Turbo in order to take advantage of it. Also, Turbo
isn't actually going to give you 108Mbps. At best, Turbo will give you a 10
to 20% "boost" for passing local WLAN traffic. For internet traffic, unless
you have like a T3, its not going to give you any advantage either. (I.e.,
my cable internet service is 5 Mbps, so Turbo does nothing for it. The pipe
is already big enough, without Turbo, for the internet traffic. For local
WLAN traffic, I do see a "boost" using Turbo though.)

Also, with Turbo enabled (Dynamic or Static), you'll note how the (center)
channel must be set to channel 6. (The setup will force you to use channel
6.) Reason being, Turbo "binds" several channels together.

From experimenting with my DLink stuff, I found that Turbo can be enabled in
repeater modes (both originating AP and repeater AP with "Turbo" enabled),
but the extra overheard actually slows it down. Better to just keep it
disabled, if repeating. Even then, when you repeat, your pipe gets cut in
half.

However, the DWL-2100AP (like the DWL-7100AP) uses WDS for repeating, which
the DWL-700AP doesn't support -- so you won't be able to repeat the
DWL-700AP with the DWL-2100AP anyway. I'm assuming you are intending to
replace the DWL-700AP with the DWL-2100AP, strickly as an AP, though?

Overall, I'm pretty happy with my DWL-7100APs. They've stayed rock stable
in the year that I've been using them now. I'm using 802.11a for my WLAN
and 802.11g for "strickly internet stuff". The "Turbo" did give a nice
slight "boost" for WLAN traffic, but does nothing for internet traffic. The
best advantage I got with them, as you will with your DWL-2100AP, was
perhaps WPA though. I'm using WPA-PSK (AES) with them and it works great.
(Side note on WPA: If you do intend on getting something that can repeat
the DWL-2100AP, like another DWL-2100AP, WPA can't be used through a
repeater with DLink stuff. Sucks, but thats just the way it is.)

Cheers,
Eric








 
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      01-17-2006, 01:12 AM

"Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "cds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:43cb24e6$0$22294$(E-Mail Removed) u...
> > I have a 700 AP (only 54mbps) that I intend to change over to a 2100AP.
> > Dlink advise keep the settings the same but they are different screens
> > within and they have not replied to my support emails. Does anyone know

> how
> > the settings should translate.
> >
> > TIA
> > CDs

>
> I have a number of DWL-7100AP's, which are identical to your intended
> DWL-2100AP (except the DWL-7100AP, in addition to 802.11g/b, also
> incorporates 802.11a).
>
> The main differences you'll find between the DWL-2100AP and your DWL-700AP
> is that the DWL-2100AP:
>
> - Allows for multiple modes (AP, bridge, repeater, client)
>
> - Allows for use of DLink's proprietary "108 Mbps Turbo", if your client
> hardware also supports it
>
> - Allows for use of WPA, if your client hardware(s) and OS(s) support it
>
> You can't load a stored settings file from the DWL-700AP into the
> DWL-2100AP, but setting up the DWL-2100AP won't be all that much different
> than it was with the DWL-700AP.
>
> I'm assuming you plan on using it as an AP, so under ADVANCED/MODE keep

set
> as "Access Point".
>
> Under ADVANCED/PERFORMANCE, the only new thing that might make you scratch
> your head for a moment are the "Turbos" in "Super G Mode":
>
> - "Super G without Turbo", is simply that. It won't attempt to use the
> proprietary (108 Mbps) Turbo with any connecting clients.
>
> - "Super G with Static Turbo" means that only clients capable of the
> propriertary (108 Mbps) Turbo can connect.
>
> - "Super G with Dynamic Turbo" means that both vanilla clients and clients
> with propriertary (108 Mbps) Turbo can connect. However, as soon as a
> non-turbo vanilla client connects, everything connected falls back to
> vanilla 802.11g.
>
> In either Static or Dynamic Turbo, your client hardware(s) must be capable
> of DLink's propriertary Turbo in order to take advantage of it. Also,

Turbo
> isn't actually going to give you 108Mbps. At best, Turbo will give you a

10
> to 20% "boost" for passing local WLAN traffic. For internet traffic,

unless
> you have like a T3, its not going to give you any advantage either.

(I.e.,
> my cable internet service is 5 Mbps, so Turbo does nothing for it. The

pipe
> is already big enough, without Turbo, for the internet traffic. For local
> WLAN traffic, I do see a "boost" using Turbo though.)
>
> Also, with Turbo enabled (Dynamic or Static), you'll note how the (center)
> channel must be set to channel 6. (The setup will force you to use

channel
> 6.) Reason being, Turbo "binds" several channels together.
>
> From experimenting with my DLink stuff, I found that Turbo can be enabled

in
> repeater modes (both originating AP and repeater AP with "Turbo" enabled),
> but the extra overheard actually slows it down. Better to just keep it
> disabled, if repeating. Even then, when you repeat, your pipe gets cut in
> half.
>
> However, the DWL-2100AP (like the DWL-7100AP) uses WDS for repeating,

which
> the DWL-700AP doesn't support -- so you won't be able to repeat the
> DWL-700AP with the DWL-2100AP anyway. I'm assuming you are intending to
> replace the DWL-700AP with the DWL-2100AP, strickly as an AP, though?
>
> Overall, I'm pretty happy with my DWL-7100APs. They've stayed rock stable
> in the year that I've been using them now. I'm using 802.11a for my WLAN
> and 802.11g for "strickly internet stuff". The "Turbo" did give a nice
> slight "boost" for WLAN traffic, but does nothing for internet traffic.

The
> best advantage I got with them, as you will with your DWL-2100AP, was
> perhaps WPA though. I'm using WPA-PSK (AES) with them and it works great.
> (Side note on WPA: If you do intend on getting something that can repeat
> the DWL-2100AP, like another DWL-2100AP, WPA can't be used through a
> repeater with DLink stuff. Sucks, but thats just the way it is.)
>
> Cheers,
> Eric


Oh, also, under TOOLS/MISC, the telnet server is enabled by default.
You'll probably want to disable it.


 
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      01-17-2006, 02:17 AM
Thanks Eric
"Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "cds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:43cb24e6$0$22294$(E-Mail Removed) u...
>> I have a 700 AP (only 54mbps) that I intend to change over to a 2100AP.
>> Dlink advise keep the settings the same but they are different screens
>> within and they have not replied to my support emails. Does anyone know

> how
>> the settings should translate.
>>
>> TIA
>> CDs

>
> I have a number of DWL-7100AP's, which are identical to your intended
> DWL-2100AP (except the DWL-7100AP, in addition to 802.11g/b, also
> incorporates 802.11a).
>
> The main differences you'll find between the DWL-2100AP and your DWL-700AP
> is that the DWL-2100AP:
>
> - Allows for multiple modes (AP, bridge, repeater, client)
>
> - Allows for use of DLink's proprietary "108 Mbps Turbo", if your client
> hardware also supports it
>
> - Allows for use of WPA, if your client hardware(s) and OS(s) support it
>
> You can't load a stored settings file from the DWL-700AP into the
> DWL-2100AP, but setting up the DWL-2100AP won't be all that much different
> than it was with the DWL-700AP.
>
> I'm assuming you plan on using it as an AP, so under ADVANCED/MODE keep
> set
> as "Access Point".
>
> Under ADVANCED/PERFORMANCE, the only new thing that might make you scratch
> your head for a moment are the "Turbos" in "Super G Mode":
>
> - "Super G without Turbo", is simply that. It won't attempt to use the
> proprietary (108 Mbps) Turbo with any connecting clients.
>
> - "Super G with Static Turbo" means that only clients capable of the
> propriertary (108 Mbps) Turbo can connect.
>
> - "Super G with Dynamic Turbo" means that both vanilla clients and clients
> with propriertary (108 Mbps) Turbo can connect. However, as soon as a
> non-turbo vanilla client connects, everything connected falls back to
> vanilla 802.11g.
>
> In either Static or Dynamic Turbo, your client hardware(s) must be capable
> of DLink's propriertary Turbo in order to take advantage of it. Also,
> Turbo
> isn't actually going to give you 108Mbps. At best, Turbo will give you a
> 10
> to 20% "boost" for passing local WLAN traffic. For internet traffic,
> unless
> you have like a T3, its not going to give you any advantage either.
> (I.e.,
> my cable internet service is 5 Mbps, so Turbo does nothing for it. The
> pipe
> is already big enough, without Turbo, for the internet traffic. For local
> WLAN traffic, I do see a "boost" using Turbo though.)
>
> Also, with Turbo enabled (Dynamic or Static), you'll note how the (center)
> channel must be set to channel 6. (The setup will force you to use
> channel
> 6.) Reason being, Turbo "binds" several channels together.
>
> From experimenting with my DLink stuff, I found that Turbo can be enabled
> in
> repeater modes (both originating AP and repeater AP with "Turbo" enabled),
> but the extra overheard actually slows it down. Better to just keep it
> disabled, if repeating. Even then, when you repeat, your pipe gets cut in
> half.
>
> However, the DWL-2100AP (like the DWL-7100AP) uses WDS for repeating,
> which
> the DWL-700AP doesn't support -- so you won't be able to repeat the
> DWL-700AP with the DWL-2100AP anyway. I'm assuming you are intending to
> replace the DWL-700AP with the DWL-2100AP, strickly as an AP, though?
>
> Overall, I'm pretty happy with my DWL-7100APs. They've stayed rock stable
> in the year that I've been using them now. I'm using 802.11a for my WLAN
> and 802.11g for "strickly internet stuff". The "Turbo" did give a nice
> slight "boost" for WLAN traffic, but does nothing for internet traffic.
> The
> best advantage I got with them, as you will with your DWL-2100AP, was
> perhaps WPA though. I'm using WPA-PSK (AES) with them and it works great.
> (Side note on WPA: If you do intend on getting something that can repeat
> the DWL-2100AP, like another DWL-2100AP, WPA can't be used through a
> repeater with DLink stuff. Sucks, but thats just the way it is.)
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



 
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      01-23-2006, 07:49 AM
Hi
Still will not work. The 700 works fine but the 2100 will just not connect.
I have kept the settings to the same as the 700 but still no joy.

Any other clues

Thanks
cds


"Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Eric" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:shYyf.23543$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "cds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:43cb24e6$0$22294$(E-Mail Removed) u...
>> > I have a 700 AP (only 54mbps) that I intend to change over to a 2100AP.
>> > Dlink advise keep the settings the same but they are different screens
>> > within and they have not replied to my support emails. Does anyone know

>> how
>> > the settings should translate.
>> >
>> > TIA
>> > CDs

>>
>> I have a number of DWL-7100AP's, which are identical to your intended
>> DWL-2100AP (except the DWL-7100AP, in addition to 802.11g/b, also
>> incorporates 802.11a).
>>
>> The main differences you'll find between the DWL-2100AP and your
>> DWL-700AP
>> is that the DWL-2100AP:
>>
>> - Allows for multiple modes (AP, bridge, repeater, client)
>>
>> - Allows for use of DLink's proprietary "108 Mbps Turbo", if your client
>> hardware also supports it
>>
>> - Allows for use of WPA, if your client hardware(s) and OS(s) support it
>>
>> You can't load a stored settings file from the DWL-700AP into the
>> DWL-2100AP, but setting up the DWL-2100AP won't be all that much
>> different
>> than it was with the DWL-700AP.
>>
>> I'm assuming you plan on using it as an AP, so under ADVANCED/MODE keep

> set
>> as "Access Point".
>>
>> Under ADVANCED/PERFORMANCE, the only new thing that might make you
>> scratch
>> your head for a moment are the "Turbos" in "Super G Mode":
>>
>> - "Super G without Turbo", is simply that. It won't attempt to use the
>> proprietary (108 Mbps) Turbo with any connecting clients.
>>
>> - "Super G with Static Turbo" means that only clients capable of the
>> propriertary (108 Mbps) Turbo can connect.
>>
>> - "Super G with Dynamic Turbo" means that both vanilla clients and
>> clients
>> with propriertary (108 Mbps) Turbo can connect. However, as soon as a
>> non-turbo vanilla client connects, everything connected falls back to
>> vanilla 802.11g.
>>
>> In either Static or Dynamic Turbo, your client hardware(s) must be
>> capable
>> of DLink's propriertary Turbo in order to take advantage of it. Also,

> Turbo
>> isn't actually going to give you 108Mbps. At best, Turbo will give you a

> 10
>> to 20% "boost" for passing local WLAN traffic. For internet traffic,

> unless
>> you have like a T3, its not going to give you any advantage either.

> (I.e.,
>> my cable internet service is 5 Mbps, so Turbo does nothing for it. The

> pipe
>> is already big enough, without Turbo, for the internet traffic. For
>> local
>> WLAN traffic, I do see a "boost" using Turbo though.)
>>
>> Also, with Turbo enabled (Dynamic or Static), you'll note how the
>> (center)
>> channel must be set to channel 6. (The setup will force you to use

> channel
>> 6.) Reason being, Turbo "binds" several channels together.
>>
>> From experimenting with my DLink stuff, I found that Turbo can be enabled

> in
>> repeater modes (both originating AP and repeater AP with "Turbo"
>> enabled),
>> but the extra overheard actually slows it down. Better to just keep it
>> disabled, if repeating. Even then, when you repeat, your pipe gets cut
>> in
>> half.
>>
>> However, the DWL-2100AP (like the DWL-7100AP) uses WDS for repeating,

> which
>> the DWL-700AP doesn't support -- so you won't be able to repeat the
>> DWL-700AP with the DWL-2100AP anyway. I'm assuming you are intending to
>> replace the DWL-700AP with the DWL-2100AP, strickly as an AP, though?
>>
>> Overall, I'm pretty happy with my DWL-7100APs. They've stayed rock
>> stable
>> in the year that I've been using them now. I'm using 802.11a for my WLAN
>> and 802.11g for "strickly internet stuff". The "Turbo" did give a nice
>> slight "boost" for WLAN traffic, but does nothing for internet traffic.

> The
>> best advantage I got with them, as you will with your DWL-2100AP, was
>> perhaps WPA though. I'm using WPA-PSK (AES) with them and it works
>> great.
>> (Side note on WPA: If you do intend on getting something that can repeat
>> the DWL-2100AP, like another DWL-2100AP, WPA can't be used through a
>> repeater with DLink stuff. Sucks, but thats just the way it is.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Eric

>
> Oh, also, under TOOLS/MISC, the telnet server is enabled by default.
> You'll probably want to disable it.
>
>



 
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      01-23-2006, 11:34 AM
"cds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Still will not work. The 700 works fine but the 2100 will just not connect.
>I have kept the settings to the same as the 700 but still no joy.


You turned off the SuperG and Turbo stuff, right? Have you tried it
with encryption off temporarily to see if it'll connect wide open? Try
a full factory reset to defaults and see if that helps.

D-Link is my (ahem) least favorite vendor, you might want to check out
something like a Linsys WRT54G (L or V4 if you can find it).
 
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      01-31-2006, 03:04 AM
Yes - tried all that. Looks like I will have to pay Dlink to install. Have
too much $ tied up now.
Appreciate your help
Regards
cds
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> "cds" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Still will not work. The 700 works fine but the 2100 will just not
>>connect.
>>I have kept the settings to the same as the 700 but still no joy.

>
> You turned off the SuperG and Turbo stuff, right? Have you tried it
> with encryption off temporarily to see if it'll connect wide open? Try
> a full factory reset to defaults and see if that helps.
>
> D-Link is my (ahem) least favorite vendor, you might want to check out
> something like a Linsys WRT54G (L or V4 if you can find it).



 
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