Dlink 800AP+ repeater = no go

Anyone tried setting up DWL 800AP+ as a repeater to another 800AP+ ??

Here's what I've got:

An 800AP+ setup as an access point, works just fine
Another 800AP+ setup as a repeater to the one above -- can't get it to work.

Even in the same room, as soon as I power up the repeater (sitting right
next to the AP), my WiFi laptop loses connection. Signal strength is
excellent, but just can't ping anything, nor get to the internet. If I power
down the repeater, the laptop regains its connection.

Went over the config options with DLink tech support, and found nothing
wrong in the settings (afterall, there really isn't much to configure).

Anyone got this config to work?

thanks,
Tony

"Tony Vinayak" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
> Anyone tried setting up DWL 800AP+ as a repeater to another
800AP+ ??
>
> Here's what I've got:
>
> An 800AP+ setup as an access point, works just fine
> Another 800AP+ setup as a repeater to the one above -- can't
get it to work.
>
> Even in the same room, as soon as I power up the repeater
(sitting right
> next to the AP), my WiFi laptop loses connection. Signal
strength is
> excellent, but just can't ping anything, nor get to the
internet. If I power
> down the repeater, the laptop regains its connection.
>
> Went over the config options with DLink tech support, and found
nothing
> wrong in the settings (afterall, there really isn't much to
configure).
>
> Anyone got this config to work?

Use a DWL-900+AP (or other compatible AP's) as the AP and the
800+AP as the repeater, I don't believe an 800 and repeat an 800,
just as an 800 can't be used as a wireless client...

>>I don't believe an 800 and repeat an 800<<

That's not true. The docs say that 800 AP+ can repeat another 800AP+, and
the D-Link tech support folks ratified that for me.

cheers

"Darrel Toepfer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bD9bb.5074$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Tony Vinayak" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
> > Anyone tried setting up DWL 800AP+ as a repeater to another
> 800AP+ ??
> >
> > Here's what I've got:
> >
> > An 800AP+ setup as an access point, works just fine
> > Another 800AP+ setup as a repeater to the one above -- can't
> get it to work.
> >
> > Even in the same room, as soon as I power up the repeater
> (sitting right
> > next to the AP), my WiFi laptop loses connection. Signal
> strength is
> > excellent, but just can't ping anything, nor get to the
> internet. If I power
> > down the repeater, the laptop regains its connection.
> >
> > Went over the config options with DLink tech support, and found
> nothing
> > wrong in the settings (afterall, there really isn't much to
> configure).
> >
> > Anyone got this config to work?
>
> Use a DWL-900+AP (or other compatible AP's) as the AP and the
> 800+AP as the repeater, I don't believe an 800 and repeat an 800,
> just as an 800 can't be used as a wireless client...
>
>

Wellll, Maybe not.

http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1136

According to this:

http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.as...ap%2B#repeater

the 800AP+ is set up as a repeater by default. Anyway, I don't have the
800, but the 900AP+ works very well here in repeating another 900AP+.


Darrel Toepfer wrote:


> Use a DWL-900+AP (or other compatible AP's) as the AP and the
> 800+AP as the repeater, I don't believe an 800 and repeat an 800,
> just as an 800 can't be used as a wireless client...
>
>

"Airman Basic" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
> Wellll, Maybe not.
>
> http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1136
>
> According to this:
>
>
http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.as...question=dwl%2
D800ap%2B#repeater
>
> the 800AP+ is set up as a repeater by default. Anyway, I don't
have the
> 800, but the 900AP+ works very well here in repeating another
900AP+.

And the new 810+ can be used as a client...

> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>
> > Use a DWL-900+AP (or other compatible AP's) as the AP and the
> > 800+AP as the repeater, I don't believe an 800 can repeat an
800,
> > just as an 800 can't be used as a wireless client...

"Tony Vinayak" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
> >>I don't believe an 800 and repeat an 800<<
>
> That's not true. The docs say that 800 AP+ can repeat another
800AP+, and
> the D-Link tech support folks ratified that for me.

Then make sure you are repeating the correct mac address,
typically people get confused on the correct address to repeat
the signal from (ethernet vs wireless)...

Spoke to DLink tech support folks regarding this(800AP+) , and what they
stated left me aghast: "Since the repeater is not part of the 802.11 spec,
sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't". So I would REALLY like to know if
anyone has this model working in repeater mode. The only change that I made
to the default config was to change its IP addr from default (192.168.0.30)
to 192.168.1.4.

Arrrgh!

Tony


"Airman Basic" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Wellll, Maybe not.
>
> http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1136
>
> According to this:
>
>
http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.as...ap%2B#repeater
>
> the 800AP+ is set up as a repeater by default. Anyway, I don't have the
> 800, but the 900AP+ works very well here in repeating another 900AP+.
>
>
> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>
>
> > Use a DWL-900+AP (or other compatible AP's) as the AP and the
> > 800+AP as the repeater, I don't believe an 800 and repeat an 800,
> > just as an 800 can't be used as a wireless client...
> >
> >
>

"Tony Vinayak" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news1Gbb.2815$(E-Mail Removed) :

> Spoke to DLink tech support folks regarding this(800AP+) , and what
> they stated left me aghast: "Since the repeater is not part of the
> 802.11 spec, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't". So I would
> REALLY like to know if anyone has this model working in repeater mode.
> The only change that I made to the default config was to change its IP
> addr from default (192.168.0.30) to 192.168.1.4.
>
> Arrrgh!
>
> Tony
>
>
> "Airman Basic" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Wellll, Maybe not.
>>
>> http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1136
>>
>> According to this:
>>
>>
> http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.as...&question=dwl%
2D800ap
> %2B#repeater
>>
>> the 800AP+ is set up as a repeater by default. Anyway, I don't have
>> the 800, but the 900AP+ works very well here in repeating another
>> 900AP+.
>>
>>
>> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Use a DWL-900+AP (or other compatible AP's) as the AP and the
>> > 800+AP as the repeater, I don't believe an 800 and repeat an 800,
>> > just as an 800 can't be used as a wireless client...
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

/\/\/\/\
Thats silly (for DLink to say ... sigh ... why am I not shocked ... tsk
... tsk ...)
..
I have an 800AP+ and have used is successfully to repeat the signal of a
614+ and a 900AP+ (and my neighbor's Linksys that has a cool 2.3meg
cable modem attached to it ... with no MAC filters or WEP configured).
NO PROBLEM !!

It is currently disconnected because I am bypassing my router at this
time ... using just a hub behind my DSL modem and letting everyone pull
their own IP from the ISP (I am doing some things right now where I need
to be able to see everyone's traffic at one adapter ...etc).

Anyhow ... note the following:

To be a repeater ... (after setup) the IP address is academic ... so is
the ethernet cable. Just set that sucker anywhere you like and plug it
in to the AC outlet.

You need to program (in the 800AP+) the MAC address of the AP/Router you
want to repeat. That is all you need as the unit will automatically
operate on the same channel etc.

The MAC you want to tell the 800AP+ to use is the MAC that is displayed
when you do a "site survey" ... (such as with a DLink client card or
Stumbler etc). You "DON"T" want to use the Ethernet side MAC of the unit
you are trying to repeat because that won't work.

If you use a 900AP+ to repeat you can do a site survey (the 800AP+ does
not do site survey as it does not have a client mode) ... and cut and
paste the MAC of the unit you are looking for right into the repeater
program box ... and you are all set !!

If you have a MAC filter turned on ... on the unit you are trying to
repeat make sure you put the MAC address of the 800AP+ into the allowed
list, (in this case use the MAC displayed on the base of the 800AP+).

Thats all I can think of at this time but you can't do "anything" if you
can't talk to the unit. You said you "can't" get in but how could that
be if you have changed the IP to 192.168.1.4 ??

Which .. by the way .. if using the default mask of 255.255.255.0 this
puts you on a different network. To get at a host operating on a network
of 192.168.1.0 / 255.255.255.0 you would have to use a PC configured
with a 192.168.1.0 / 255.255.255.0 IP address. You "wouldn't" be getting
to it with any PC with an IP of 192.168.0.X .... cause things don't work
that way.

Hopefully, something here will be of some help ... I apologize in
advance for covering obvious or other things that you probably already
know. The units do indeed work though .. and they work very well (as
repeaters).

IMHO as always ...
campbell

"Tony Vinayak" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
> Spoke to DLink tech support folks regarding this(800AP+) , and
what they
> stated left me aghast: "Since the repeater is not part of the
802.11 spec,
> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't". So I would REALLY
like to know if
> anyone has this model working in repeater mode. The only change
that I made
> to the default config was to change its IP addr from default
(192.168.0.30)
> to 192.168.1.4.

Can you still access the configuration/setup URL?

As previously stated I have successfully had an 800+AP act as a
repeater for both the DI-614+ and DWL-900+AP. I've also
configured 800+AP's to be AP's, I've never attempted to use the
800+AP in Bridge or repeater mode with another 800+AP...

Recently I needed a PCMCIA card with the reverse connectors on it
for signal mapping purposes, so I stripped the DI-614+ and
removed the unlabled DWL-650+ card that was inside. The 614's
just don't have the flexibility of the 900+AP's (which also have
a DWL-650+ inside, but with only 1 antenna connector), works like
a charm after removing a bit of the PCB from either side of the
antenna connection card...

My AP of choice is the 900+, my repeater of choice is the 800+...
Its a given that you are using a stable firmware for the
hardware. Typically what comes with it, is not...

Yes, I used the 800+ as a repeater to the 614+, until the 614+ died
and I went back to my (trusty and reliable Netgear ME102c).

It worked pretty well, though on occasion, when I would move back into
the room with the 614+, I would still show a connection, but lose
connectivity to the net, so I would have to disable then reenable my
wireless card.

Other than that, it worked great.

Can't get it working with the Netgear ME102c, but I'm still working on
it.


On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:09:41 GMT, "Tony Vinayak"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Spoke to DLink tech support folks regarding this(800AP+) , and what they
>stated left me aghast: "Since the repeater is not part of the 802.11 spec,
>sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't". So I would REALLY like to know if
>anyone has this model working in repeater mode. The only change that I made
>to the default config was to change its IP addr from default (192.168.0.30)
>to 192.168.1.4.
>
>Arrrgh!
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Airman Basic" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Wellll, Maybe not.
>>
>> http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1136
>>
>> According to this:
>>
>>
>http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.as...ap%2B#repeater
>>
>> the 800AP+ is set up as a repeater by default. Anyway, I don't have the
>> 800, but the 900AP+ works very well here in repeating another 900AP+.
>>
>>
>> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Use a DWL-900+AP (or other compatible AP's) as the AP and the
>> > 800+AP as the repeater, I don't believe an 800 and repeat an 800,
>> > just as an 800 can't be used as a wireless client...
>> >
>> >
>>
>