Disk quota question

We are running a Wk2 domain and a W2k files server. On the file server we
enabled Disk Quotas and set the limit to 250mb with a warning at 240mb. On
the user profiles we set a "Home folder" to connect to "U:\" at
"\\fileserver\user\username". However, most of the users are not affected
by the disk quotas. I have found that if the user's home folder is "owned"
by the "Administrator" acct. then it is not affected by disk quotas.
However, everytime I create a new user in AD "Administrator" is the owner.
What am I doing wrong? And how do I change the "Owner" on the folders that
already exist? My only option seems to be the "Administrator" or myself,
and not the REAL owner.

Thanks for any and all help.


Clayton

By the way, the user folders are off the root (c:\user). That is shared as
their "U:\" drive.


Clayton



"Clayton Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uN1I1CP%(E-Mail Removed)...
> We are running a Wk2 domain and a W2k files server. On the file server we
> enabled Disk Quotas and set the limit to 250mb with a warning at 240mb.
On
> the user profiles we set a "Home folder" to connect to "U:\" at
> "\\fileserver\user\username". However, most of the users are not affected
> by the disk quotas. I have found that if the user's home folder is
"owned"
> by the "Administrator" acct. then it is not affected by disk quotas.
> However, everytime I create a new user in AD "Administrator" is the owner.
> What am I doing wrong? And how do I change the "Owner" on the folders
that
> already exist? My only option seems to be the "Administrator" or myself,
> and not the REAL owner.
>
> Thanks for any and all help.
>
>
> Clayton
>
>

Who is the owner of the files in the users home folder? I hope it is the
users in their respective folder. So the quota should still apply to them.
Where the users and their folders present when you made the quota settings?
Existing users are not affected by new quota settings. You have to make a
new entry or change the settings for their existing entry before the quota
apply to them. New users will be affected by the quota settings as it is.

Egon Petersen
"Clayton Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uN1I1CP%(E-Mail Removed)...
> We are running a Wk2 domain and a W2k files server. On the file server we
> enabled Disk Quotas and set the limit to 250mb with a warning at 240mb.
> On
> the user profiles we set a "Home folder" to connect to "U:\" at
> "\\fileserver\user\username". However, most of the users are not affected
> by the disk quotas. I have found that if the user's home folder is
> "owned"
> by the "Administrator" acct. then it is not affected by disk quotas.
> However, everytime I create a new user in AD "Administrator" is the owner.
> What am I doing wrong? And how do I change the "Owner" on the folders
> that
> already exist? My only option seems to be the "Administrator" or myself,
> and not the REAL owner.
>
> Thanks for any and all help.
>
>
> Clayton
>
>

Thanks for the reply Egon,

I'm a new employee here and I am trying to get their disk quotas working.
I'll use my new user acct. as an example. They created me a new user id for
the domain and made me a "Domain Admin" and "Ent. Admin". On my user
profile they have mapped a drive to a shared folder on a file server. If I
copy any data into this folder OR create a new Word doc and save it to that
drive the "Owner" is the local Administrators group. As a result, the disk
quotas don't get applyed to me and the Administrators don't have a limit at
all.

Bottom line, the "Local Administrators" group is the owner of the files in
the users home folder. At least for any new people we add to the network.
It would seem that there are some people who are working just fine and they
are the owner of their own files.


Clayton



"Egon Petersen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eL2oNmV%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Who is the owner of the files in the users home folder? I hope it is the
> users in their respective folder. So the quota should still apply to them.
> Where the users and their folders present when you made the quota
settings?
> Existing users are not affected by new quota settings. You have to make a
> new entry or change the settings for their existing entry before the quota
> apply to them. New users will be affected by the quota settings as it is.
>
> Egon Petersen
> "Clayton Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:uN1I1CP%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > We are running a Wk2 domain and a W2k files server. On the file server
we
> > enabled Disk Quotas and set the limit to 250mb with a warning at 240mb.
> > On
> > the user profiles we set a "Home folder" to connect to "U:\" at
> > "\\fileserver\user\username". However, most of the users are not
affected
> > by the disk quotas. I have found that if the user's home folder is
> > "owned"
> > by the "Administrator" acct. then it is not affected by disk quotas.
> > However, everytime I create a new user in AD "Administrator" is the
owner.
> > What am I doing wrong? And how do I change the "Owner" on the folders
> > that
> > already exist? My only option seems to be the "Administrator" or
myself,
> > and not the REAL owner.
> >
> > Thanks for any and all help.
> >
> >
> > Clayton
> >
> >
>
>

Clayton Sutton wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Egon,
>
> I'm a new employee here and I am trying to get their disk quotas
> working. I'll use my new user acct. as an example. They created me a
> new user id for the domain and made me a "Domain Admin" and "Ent.
> Admin". On my user profile they have mapped a drive to a shared
> folder on a file server. If I copy any data into this folder OR
> create a new Word doc and save it to that drive the "Owner" is the
> local Administrators group. As a result, the disk quotas don't get
> applyed to me and the Administrators don't have a limit at all.
>
> Bottom line, the "Local Administrators" group is the owner of the
> files in the users home folder. At least for any new people we add
> to the network. It would seem that there are some people who are
> working just fine and they are the owner of their own files.

You can't "push" ownership of files/folders to someone else - you can only
"take" ownership as Administrator or Administrators. As far as I know, unles
there's some magical way to script this, you'd need to log in as each user
to take ownership of the folder/subfolders (and I think they'd need full
control, not modify as may be your current setup - not sure).

I personally dislike the MS quota management stuff - for reasons such as
this one, which is a real pain, and also because for my purposes, it would
be a lot better to have quotas based entirely on a volume/folder, not a
particular username/owner. There are third party quota management tools
available if you want to take a look at them - www.quotamanager.com is one
I've seen, but I've never tried it.
>
>
> Clayton
>
>
>
> "Egon Petersen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eL2oNmV%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Who is the owner of the files in the users home folder? I hope it is
>> the users in their respective folder. So the quota should still
>> apply to them. Where the users and their folders present when you
>> made the quota settings? Existing users are not affected by new
>> quota settings. You have to make a new entry or change the settings
>> for their existing entry before the quota apply to them. New users
>> will be affected by the quota settings as it is.
>>
>> Egon Petersen
>> "Clayton Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:uN1I1CP%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> We are running a Wk2 domain and a W2k files server. On the file
>>> server we enabled Disk Quotas and set the limit to 250mb with a
>>> warning at 240mb. On
>>> the user profiles we set a "Home folder" to connect to "U:\" at
>>> "\\fileserver\user\username". However, most of the users are not
>>> affected by the disk quotas. I have found that if the user's home
>>> folder is "owned"
>>> by the "Administrator" acct. then it is not affected by disk quotas.
>>> However, everytime I create a new user in AD "Administrator" is the
>>> owner. What am I doing wrong? And how do I change the "Owner" on
>>> the folders that
>>> already exist? My only option seems to be the "Administrator" or
>>> myself, and not the REAL owner.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any and all help.
>>>
>>>
>>> Clayton

Actually, with Windows 2003 you can assign ownership of a file/folder to
another user. The way this is done is by using an account that has "Restore
Files and Directories" rights.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._ownership.asp

This is the manual way. You can do this with Windows 2K as well, but you
have to write your own program to do it. The key is the Restore Files and
Directories right.

Regards,
Charles
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"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<(E-Mail Removed) ahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eUPW%23fZ%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Clayton Sutton wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply Egon,
>>
>> I'm a new employee here and I am trying to get their disk quotas
>> working. I'll use my new user acct. as an example. They created me a
>> new user id for the domain and made me a "Domain Admin" and "Ent.
>> Admin". On my user profile they have mapped a drive to a shared
>> folder on a file server. If I copy any data into this folder OR
>> create a new Word doc and save it to that drive the "Owner" is the
>> local Administrators group. As a result, the disk quotas don't get
>> applyed to me and the Administrators don't have a limit at all.
>>
>> Bottom line, the "Local Administrators" group is the owner of the
>> files in the users home folder. At least for any new people we add
>> to the network. It would seem that there are some people who are
>> working just fine and they are the owner of their own files.
>
> You can't "push" ownership of files/folders to someone else - you can only
> "take" ownership as Administrator or Administrators. As far as I know,
> unles
> there's some magical way to script this, you'd need to log in as each user
> to take ownership of the folder/subfolders (and I think they'd need full
> control, not modify as may be your current setup - not sure).
>
> I personally dislike the MS quota management stuff - for reasons such as
> this one, which is a real pain, and also because for my purposes, it would
> be a lot better to have quotas based entirely on a volume/folder, not a
> particular username/owner. There are third party quota management tools
> available if you want to take a look at them - www.quotamanager.com is one
> I've seen, but I've never tried it.
>>
>>
>> Clayton
>>
>>
>>
>> "Egon Petersen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:eL2oNmV%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Who is the owner of the files in the users home folder? I hope it is
>>> the users in their respective folder. So the quota should still
>>> apply to them. Where the users and their folders present when you
>>> made the quota settings? Existing users are not affected by new
>>> quota settings. You have to make a new entry or change the settings
>>> for their existing entry before the quota apply to them. New users
>>> will be affected by the quota settings as it is.
>>>
>>> Egon Petersen
>>> "Clayton Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:uN1I1CP%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> We are running a Wk2 domain and a W2k files server. On the file
>>>> server we enabled Disk Quotas and set the limit to 250mb with a
>>>> warning at 240mb. On
>>>> the user profiles we set a "Home folder" to connect to "U:\" at
>>>> "\\fileserver\user\username". However, most of the users are not
>>>> affected by the disk quotas. I have found that if the user's home
>>>> folder is "owned"
>>>> by the "Administrator" acct. then it is not affected by disk quotas.
>>>> However, everytime I create a new user in AD "Administrator" is the
>>>> owner. What am I doing wrong? And how do I change the "Owner" on
>>>> the folders that
>>>> already exist? My only option seems to be the "Administrator" or
>>>> myself, and not the REAL owner.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any and all help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clayton
>
>

Charles Denny [MSFT] wrote:
> Actually, with Windows 2003 you can assign ownership of a file/folder
> to another user. The way this is done is by using an account that
> has "Restore Files and Directories" rights.

Ah, cool. I didn't know about that.
Then again, I've rarely if ever needed to to this in the first place. Still,
it's good to know! Thanks.
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._ownership.asp
>
> This is the manual way. You can do this with Windows 2K as well, but
> you have to write your own program to do it. The key is the Restore
> Files and Directories right.
>
> Regards,
> Charles
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <(E-Mail Removed) ahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:eUPW%23fZ%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Clayton Sutton wrote:
>>> Thanks for the reply Egon,
>>>
>>> I'm a new employee here and I am trying to get their disk quotas
>>> working. I'll use my new user acct. as an example. They created me
>>> a new user id for the domain and made me a "Domain Admin" and "Ent.
>>> Admin". On my user profile they have mapped a drive to a shared
>>> folder on a file server. If I copy any data into this folder OR
>>> create a new Word doc and save it to that drive the "Owner" is the
>>> local Administrators group. As a result, the disk quotas don't get
>>> applyed to me and the Administrators don't have a limit at all.
>>>
>>> Bottom line, the "Local Administrators" group is the owner of the
>>> files in the users home folder. At least for any new people we add
>>> to the network. It would seem that there are some people who are
>>> working just fine and they are the owner of their own files.
>>
>> You can't "push" ownership of files/folders to someone else - you
>> can only "take" ownership as Administrator or Administrators. As far
>> as I know, unles
>> there's some magical way to script this, you'd need to log in as
>> each user to take ownership of the folder/subfolders (and I think
>> they'd need full control, not modify as may be your current setup -
>> not sure).
>>
>> I personally dislike the MS quota management stuff - for reasons
>> such as this one, which is a real pain, and also because for my
>> purposes, it would be a lot better to have quotas based entirely on
>> a volume/folder, not a particular username/owner. There are third
>> party quota management tools available if you want to take a look at
>> them - www.quotamanager.com is one I've seen, but I've never tried
>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Clayton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Egon Petersen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:eL2oNmV%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Who is the owner of the files in the users home folder? I hope it
>>>> is the users in their respective folder. So the quota should still
>>>> apply to them. Where the users and their folders present when you
>>>> made the quota settings? Existing users are not affected by new
>>>> quota settings. You have to make a new entry or change the settings
>>>> for their existing entry before the quota apply to them. New users
>>>> will be affected by the quota settings as it is.
>>>>
>>>> Egon Petersen
>>>> "Clayton Sutton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:uN1I1CP%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> We are running a Wk2 domain and a W2k files server. On the file
>>>>> server we enabled Disk Quotas and set the limit to 250mb with a
>>>>> warning at 240mb. On
>>>>> the user profiles we set a "Home folder" to connect to "U:\" at
>>>>> "\\fileserver\user\username". However, most of the users are not
>>>>> affected by the disk quotas. I have found that if the user's home
>>>>> folder is "owned"
>>>>> by the "Administrator" acct. then it is not affected by disk
>>>>> quotas. However, everytime I create a new user in AD
>>>>> "Administrator" is the owner. What am I doing wrong? And how do
>>>>> I change the "Owner" on the folders that
>>>>> already exist? My only option seems to be the "Administrator" or
>>>>> myself, and not the REAL owner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any and all help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Clayton

You can assign ownership of a file/folder to another user using Subinacl.exe
from the Reskit.

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Windows Server 2003/2000/NT
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