Juhan Leemet <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
](my contribution on the bottom, where it belongs)
]On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:37:23 -0400, Byrg B. wrote:
]> Yes, I want to dial without using X.
]> Why ??? Because on that OTHER machine I chose NOT to install
]> KDE or Gnome (i.e. no GUIs).
]> Thanks!
]> ================================================== ============
]> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:49:58 +0100, David Dorward <(E-Mail Removed)>
]> wrote:
]>
]>>Byrg B. wrote:
]>>
]>>> I can dial my ISP nicely from KDE or Gnome.
]>>> But how do I dial WITHOUT running KDE/Gnome ???
]>>
]>>Run a desktop environment which isn't KDE or Gnome and use the same tools
]>>you've always used.
]>>
]>>Or are you asking about dialing without needing X?
]>>
]>>> Should I read about char, pppd, Wvdial or what ???
]>>
]>>My distro comes with some nice scripts (pon and poff) which handle pppd with
]>>a minimum of fuss. When I was using SuSE 6.2 (i.e. a long time ago) I was
]>>rather found of wvdial, which wasn't difficult to get going.
]I'll second that recommendation for wvdial. In fact, I still have that
]running on an old PC with SuSE 7.2 on it (soon 8.2 or 9.1, if I can find a
]big enough shoe horn and sledge hammer?). I found that the wvdial program
]was really easy to setup, and it was pretty smart in figuring out how to
]connect to my ISP. ISTR that it only needed a phone number and my ISP user
]name and password. After that it figured out (with defaults) how to
]connect.
]The only problem I recall having with it was that I had trouble launching
]wvdial from a cron activated script. I wanted to program some additional
]call out times, to pickup mail and newsgroup stuff. This had worked before
]with some other software, but I didn't have the patience to fight wvdial
]into submission. Worked fine in command line driven mode (even script
]activated). Now I have a cable modem so I don't rely on wvdial for much.
wvdial like all of those programs, is great when it works and a complete
impediment when it does not-- impossible to debug. For example you almost
always should use Stupid mode.
See
www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html for step by step instructions
for setting up and debugging ppp without any intermediary programs.