DHCP ON XP

Hi Guys,

I have a client who has a 120 node windows xp pro p2p network using static
ips!!!

Any tweak or 3rd paty application for xp to be able to run dhcp?

Thx

Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/220874

HTH
_Edwin.



"CasDeTroy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:50C2B57C-BA61-45DA-BAD9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a client who has a 120 node windows xp pro p2p network using static
> ips!!!
>
> Any tweak or 3rd paty application for xp to be able to run dhcp?
>
> Thx

Isn't his router capable of DHCP?
Anthony


"Edwin vMierlo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/220874
>
> HTH
> _Edwin.
>
>
>
> "CasDeTroy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:50C2B57C-BA61-45DA-BAD9-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I have a client who has a 120 node windows xp pro p2p network using
>> static
>> ips!!!
>>
>> Any tweak or 3rd paty application for xp to be able to run dhcp?
>>
>> Thx
>
>

In news:50C2B57C-BA61-45DA-BAD9-(E-Mail Removed),
CasDeTroy <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented on
below:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a client who has a 120 node windows xp pro p2p network using
> static ips!!!
>
> Any tweak or 3rd paty application for xp to be able to run dhcp?
>
> Thx

Are you saying this environment is not an Active Directory environment, or
any other directory service type of an environemtn (Novell, Unix NFS, etc)?
If so, just use the DHCP service off your router/NAT device (Linksys, Cisco
PIX, D-Link, Watchguard, Netscreen, etc),. Most routers offer a DHCP
service.

I wouldn't allow XP to use APIPA (automatic private IP addressing), since
that only gives a random 169.254.x.x number with a 255.255.0.0 subnet, and
does NOT provide nor is configurable to provide a gateway or DNS
address(es), and if you have internet access, you will need a gate (your
router) and DNS to resolve outside names. If you have AD, or any Windows
Server, you can easily configure one of the servers as a DHCP server.

--
Ace
Innovative IT Concepts, Inc
Willow Grove, PA

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

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There is no point in DHCP for that.
They are perfectly fine (and more dependable) with static addressing.
They should keep record though, like a simple Excel spreadsheet.

If they absolutely think they can't live without DHCP, then they need to buy
a copy of Windows Server Standard with 120 CALs and run the DHCP there, of
course then they can get rid of the Workgroup model and come out of the dark
ages too (at no extra cost).

If they can afford to buy 120 workstations and pay the wages for 120
employees,...then can afford Server2003 Standard with the CALs. Don't let
them tell you otherwise.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com



"CasDeTroy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:50C2B57C-BA61-45DA-BAD9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a client who has a 120 node windows xp pro p2p network using static
> ips!!!
>
> Any tweak or 3rd paty application for xp to be able to run dhcp?
>
> Thx

or he can transform a XP workstation in a DHCP server using tftpd32
(http://tftpd32.jounin.net/)
Still the best solution is to use the DHCP offered by the routers.

--
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"Ace Fekay [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In news:50C2B57C-BA61-45DA-BAD9-(E-Mail Removed),
> CasDeTroy <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented
> on below:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I have a client who has a 120 node windows xp pro p2p network using
>> static ips!!!
>>
>> Any tweak or 3rd paty application for xp to be able to run dhcp?
>>
>> Thx
>
> Are you saying this environment is not an Active Directory environment, or
> any other directory service type of an environemtn (Novell, Unix NFS,
> etc)? If so, just use the DHCP service off your router/NAT device
> (Linksys, Cisco PIX, D-Link, Watchguard, Netscreen, etc),. Most routers
> offer a DHCP service.
>
> I wouldn't allow XP to use APIPA (automatic private IP addressing), since
> that only gives a random 169.254.x.x number with a 255.255.0.0 subnet, and
> does NOT provide nor is configurable to provide a gateway or DNS
> address(es), and if you have internet access, you will need a gate (your
> router) and DNS to resolve outside names. If you have AD, or any Windows
> Server, you can easily configure one of the servers as a DHCP server.
>
> --
> Ace
> Innovative IT Concepts, Inc
> Willow Grove, PA
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> Having difficulty reading or finding responses to your post?
> Instead of the website you're using, I suggest to use OEx (Outlook Express
> or any other newsreader), and configure a news account, pointing to
> news.microsoft.com. This is a direct link to the Microsoft Public
> Newsgroups. It is FREE and requires NO ISP's Usenet account. OEx allows
> you to easily find, track threads, cross-post, sort by date, poster's
> name, watched threads or subject.
> It's easy:
>
> How to Configure OEx for Internet News
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=171164
>
> Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
> Assimilation Imminent. Resistance is Futile
> "Very funny Scotty. Now, beam down my clothes."
>
> The only constant in life is change...
>

On 2006-09-01 15:39:36 +0100, "Phillip Windell" <@.> said:

> There is no point in DHCP for that.
> They are perfectly fine (and more dependable) with static addressing.
> They should keep record though, like a simple Excel spreadsheet.
>
> If they absolutely think they can't live without DHCP, then they need
> to buy a copy of Windows Server Standard with 120 CALs and run the DHCP
> there, of course then they can get rid of the Workgroup model and come
> out of the dark ages too (at no extra cost).
>
> If they can afford to buy 120 workstations and pay the wages for 120
> employees,...then can afford Server2003 Standard with the CALs. Don't
> let them tell you otherwise.

If all they want is DHCP services (and I question that with 120
workstations to be honest but still, not my problem) then buying server
+120 CALs is a heck of a lot of outlay when a cheap router or a good
BSD UNIX install could do it for a darn sight cheaper.
--
Robert Moir
Microsoft MVP for Security

www.robertmoir.com

I think Phillip's point was that they should be running a domain with
120 clients (and that way they get DHCP as a bonus)!

Robert Moir wrote:
> On 2006-09-01 15:39:36 +0100, "Phillip Windell" <@.> said:
>
>> There is no point in DHCP for that.
>> They are perfectly fine (and more dependable) with static addressing.
>> They should keep record though, like a simple Excel spreadsheet.
>>
>> If they absolutely think they can't live without DHCP, then they need
>> to buy a copy of Windows Server Standard with 120 CALs and run the
>> DHCP there, of course then they can get rid of the Workgroup model
>> and come out of the dark ages too (at no extra cost).
>>
>> If they can afford to buy 120 workstations and pay the wages for 120
>> employees,...then can afford Server2003 Standard with the CALs. Don't let
>> them tell you otherwise.
>
> If all they want is DHCP services (and I question that with 120
> workstations to be honest but still, not my problem) then buying
> server +120 CALs is a heck of a lot of outlay when a cheap router or
> a good BSD UNIX install could do it for a darn sight cheaper.

Bill Grant wrote:
> I think Phillip's point was that they should be running a domain
> with 120 clients (and that way they get DHCP as a bonus)!

And I'd agree with that!

But maybe there's a reason why 120 standalone clients works better for
someone's needs than 120 clients with a server of any kind to connect to.
I'm struggling to think of any real life reason that would actually make
sense, but still.

In news:%(E-Mail Removed),
Andrei Ungureanu [MVP] <contact me via www.itboard.ro> stated, which I
commented on below:
> or he can transform a XP workstation in a DHCP server using tftpd32
> (http://tftpd32.jounin.net/)
> Still the best solution is to use the DHCP offered by the routers.

Oh yes, forgot about that service for XP. But I agree, let the router or
Win2003 server (if an AD environment) be the DHCP server.

Ace