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Colin Halliday
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      01-20-2004, 03:10 AM
I upgraded an existing AD machine from Server 2000 to Server 2003. It was
also running DHCP for a simple single subnet (30 clients).

After upgrade, all client machines that were switched on during the upgrade
(26 of them) lost their IPCONFIG settings and returned to default address of
169. ... None of them can now find a DHCP server.

I have only 2000 Pro and XP Pro clients.

So I stopped DHCP on that server and started it on a brand new machine which
came with Server 2003 pre-installed. I re-created from scratch the single
scope with options, reservations etc. Authorized it as well.

Still the clients cannot find a DHCP server!

Four client machines had been switched off during the upgrade process.
After all of the above I booted them and they talked to the new DHCP server
fine and have leases.

I have had to manually assign addresses to the 26 clients to get them to
talk on the network. Changing any of them to DHCP will not work. After
doing so and doing an ipconfig /renew returns an error that no DHCP server
can be found.

Can anybody through some light on this for me?

Thanks.



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sharad
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      01-20-2004, 05:31 PM
Why not reboot other 22 cleints?

Sharad
"Colin Halliday" <colhal..at..kothes..com..au> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> I upgraded an existing AD machine from Server 2000 to Server 2003. It was
> also running DHCP for a simple single subnet (30 clients).
>
> After upgrade, all client machines that were switched on during the

upgrade
> (26 of them) lost their IPCONFIG settings and returned to default address

of
> 169. ... None of them can now find a DHCP server.
>
> I have only 2000 Pro and XP Pro clients.
>
> So I stopped DHCP on that server and started it on a brand new machine

which
> came with Server 2003 pre-installed. I re-created from scratch the single
> scope with options, reservations etc. Authorized it as well.
>
> Still the clients cannot find a DHCP server!
>
> Four client machines had been switched off during the upgrade process.
> After all of the above I booted them and they talked to the new DHCP

server
> fine and have leases.
>
> I have had to manually assign addresses to the 26 clients to get them to
> talk on the network. Changing any of them to DHCP will not work. After
> doing so and doing an ipconfig /renew returns an error that no DHCP server
> can be found.
>
> Can anybody through some light on this for me?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
> Colin Halliday
>
>



 
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Colin Halliday
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      01-20-2004, 07:01 PM
I have rebooted 100 times!! That was a given.

Colin

"sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Why not reboot other 22 cleints?
>
> Sharad
> "Colin Halliday" <colhal..at..kothes..com..au> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I upgraded an existing AD machine from Server 2000 to Server 2003. It

was
> > also running DHCP for a simple single subnet (30 clients).
> >
> > After upgrade, all client machines that were switched on during the

> upgrade
> > (26 of them) lost their IPCONFIG settings and returned to default

address
> of
> > 169. ... None of them can now find a DHCP server.
> >
> > I have only 2000 Pro and XP Pro clients.
> >
> > So I stopped DHCP on that server and started it on a brand new machine

> which
> > came with Server 2003 pre-installed. I re-created from scratch the

single
> > scope with options, reservations etc. Authorized it as well.
> >
> > Still the clients cannot find a DHCP server!
> >
> > Four client machines had been switched off during the upgrade process.
> > After all of the above I booted them and they talked to the new DHCP

> server
> > fine and have leases.
> >
> > I have had to manually assign addresses to the 26 clients to get them to
> > talk on the network. Changing any of them to DHCP will not work. After
> > doing so and doing an ipconfig /renew returns an error that no DHCP

server
> > can be found.
> >
> > Can anybody through some light on this for me?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Colin Halliday
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Bill Grant
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      01-21-2004, 12:46 AM
I think you will find that DHCP has to be registered in AD before it
can issue info to clients. This is a safety measure to prevent rogue DHCP
servers.

"Colin Halliday" <colhal at ozemail. com. au> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have rebooted 100 times!! That was a given.
>
> Colin
>
> "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Why not reboot other 22 cleints?
> >
> > Sharad
> > "Colin Halliday" <colhal..at..kothes..com..au> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I upgraded an existing AD machine from Server 2000 to Server 2003. It

> was
> > > also running DHCP for a simple single subnet (30 clients).
> > >
> > > After upgrade, all client machines that were switched on during the

> > upgrade
> > > (26 of them) lost their IPCONFIG settings and returned to default

> address
> > of
> > > 169. ... None of them can now find a DHCP server.
> > >
> > > I have only 2000 Pro and XP Pro clients.
> > >
> > > So I stopped DHCP on that server and started it on a brand new machine

> > which
> > > came with Server 2003 pre-installed. I re-created from scratch the

> single
> > > scope with options, reservations etc. Authorized it as well.
> > >
> > > Still the clients cannot find a DHCP server!
> > >
> > > Four client machines had been switched off during the upgrade process.
> > > After all of the above I booted them and they talked to the new DHCP

> > server
> > > fine and have leases.
> > >
> > > I have had to manually assign addresses to the 26 clients to get them

to
> > > talk on the network. Changing any of them to DHCP will not work.

After
> > > doing so and doing an ipconfig /renew returns an error that no DHCP

> server
> > > can be found.
> > >
> > > Can anybody through some light on this for me?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Colin Halliday
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Colin Halliday
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      01-21-2004, 02:16 AM
I have "authorized" the DHCP server to make dynamic updates to DNS. Is
there anything else to do in AD Users & Computers for example.

Also I am not certain about the Credentials button in DHCP - which account
to use and exactly what groups does this account need to be in?

Thanks

Colin


"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:%23a$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I think you will find that DHCP has to be registered in AD before it
> can issue info to clients. This is a safety measure to prevent rogue DHCP
> servers.
>
> "Colin Halliday" <colhal at ozemail. com. au> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have rebooted 100 times!! That was a given.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> > "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Why not reboot other 22 cleints?
> > >
> > > Sharad
> > > "Colin Halliday" <colhal..at..kothes..com..au> wrote in message
> > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > I upgraded an existing AD machine from Server 2000 to Server 2003.

It
> > was
> > > > also running DHCP for a simple single subnet (30 clients).
> > > >
> > > > After upgrade, all client machines that were switched on during the
> > > upgrade
> > > > (26 of them) lost their IPCONFIG settings and returned to default

> > address
> > > of
> > > > 169. ... None of them can now find a DHCP server.
> > > >
> > > > I have only 2000 Pro and XP Pro clients.
> > > >
> > > > So I stopped DHCP on that server and started it on a brand new

machine
> > > which
> > > > came with Server 2003 pre-installed. I re-created from scratch the

> > single
> > > > scope with options, reservations etc. Authorized it as well.
> > > >
> > > > Still the clients cannot find a DHCP server!
> > > >
> > > > Four client machines had been switched off during the upgrade

process.
> > > > After all of the above I booted them and they talked to the new DHCP
> > > server
> > > > fine and have leases.
> > > >
> > > > I have had to manually assign addresses to the 26 clients to get

them
> to
> > > > talk on the network. Changing any of them to DHCP will not work.

> After
> > > > doing so and doing an ipconfig /renew returns an error that no DHCP

> > server
> > > > can be found.
> > > >
> > > > Can anybody through some light on this for me?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Colin Halliday
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

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>



 
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Bill Grant
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      01-21-2004, 02:48 AM
No, you need to authorise the DHCP server to start work! You must be an
AD admin to do it.

In W2k3 help search for DHCP, then read the article "Authorizing DHCP
Servers". Follow the link "To authorize a DHCP Server in Active Directory".

"Colin Halliday" <colinh..at..kothes..com..au> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have "authorized" the DHCP server to make dynamic updates to DNS. Is
> there anything else to do in AD Users & Computers for example.
>
> Also I am not certain about the Credentials button in DHCP - which account
> to use and exactly what groups does this account need to be in?
>
> Thanks
>
> Colin
>
>
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:%23a$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I think you will find that DHCP has to be registered in AD before

it
> > can issue info to clients. This is a safety measure to prevent rogue

DHCP
> > servers.
> >
> > "Colin Halliday" <colhal at ozemail. com. au> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I have rebooted 100 times!! That was a given.
> > >
> > > Colin
> > >
> > > "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Why not reboot other 22 cleints?
> > > >
> > > > Sharad
> > > > "Colin Halliday" <colhal..at..kothes..com..au> wrote in message
> > > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > I upgraded an existing AD machine from Server 2000 to Server 2003.

> It
> > > was
> > > > > also running DHCP for a simple single subnet (30 clients).
> > > > >
> > > > > After upgrade, all client machines that were switched on during

the
> > > > upgrade
> > > > > (26 of them) lost their IPCONFIG settings and returned to default
> > > address
> > > > of
> > > > > 169. ... None of them can now find a DHCP server.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have only 2000 Pro and XP Pro clients.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I stopped DHCP on that server and started it on a brand new

> machine
> > > > which
> > > > > came with Server 2003 pre-installed. I re-created from scratch

the
> > > single
> > > > > scope with options, reservations etc. Authorized it as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still the clients cannot find a DHCP server!
> > > > >
> > > > > Four client machines had been switched off during the upgrade

> process.
> > > > > After all of the above I booted them and they talked to the new

DHCP
> > > > server
> > > > > fine and have leases.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have had to manually assign addresses to the 26 clients to get

> them
> > to
> > > > > talk on the network. Changing any of them to DHCP will not work.

> > After
> > > > > doing so and doing an ipconfig /renew returns an error that no

DHCP
> > > server
> > > > > can be found.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anybody through some light on this for me?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Colin Halliday
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

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>



 
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Colin Halliday
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      01-23-2004, 02:46 AM
Yes, I had already authorized the server, but simply by using the shortcut
menu.

I have solved the problem by moving the DHCP to a non-AD member server. I
found one small paragraph in a Microsoft article headed "Caution" that
recommended not running DHCP on an AD machine. I still don't yet understand
why and what has changed between 2000 and 2003, but at least I have solved
my problem for now.

I would really like to have a fuller explanation on this though.

Thanks for your assistance.

Colin


"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:OX$(E-Mail Removed)...
> No, you need to authorise the DHCP server to start work! You must be an
> AD admin to do it.
>
> In W2k3 help search for DHCP, then read the article "Authorizing DHCP
> Servers". Follow the link "To authorize a DHCP Server in Active

Directory".
>
> "Colin Halliday" <colinh..at..kothes..com..au> wrote in message
> news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have "authorized" the DHCP server to make dynamic updates to DNS. Is
> > there anything else to do in AD Users & Computers for example.
> >
> > Also I am not certain about the Credentials button in DHCP - which

account
> > to use and exactly what groups does this account need to be in?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> > news:%23a$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I think you will find that DHCP has to be registered in AD before

> it
> > > can issue info to clients. This is a safety measure to prevent rogue

> DHCP
> > > servers.
> > >
> > > "Colin Halliday" <colhal at ozemail. com. au> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > I have rebooted 100 times!! That was a given.
> > > >
> > > > Colin
> > > >
> > > > "sharad" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Why not reboot other 22 cleints?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sharad
> > > > > "Colin Halliday" <colhal..at..kothes..com..au> wrote in message
> > > > > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > I upgraded an existing AD machine from Server 2000 to Server

2003.
> > It
> > > > was
> > > > > > also running DHCP for a simple single subnet (30 clients).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After upgrade, all client machines that were switched on during

> the
> > > > > upgrade
> > > > > > (26 of them) lost their IPCONFIG settings and returned to

default
> > > > address
> > > > > of
> > > > > > 169. ... None of them can now find a DHCP server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have only 2000 Pro and XP Pro clients.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I stopped DHCP on that server and started it on a brand new

> > machine
> > > > > which
> > > > > > came with Server 2003 pre-installed. I re-created from scratch

> the
> > > > single
> > > > > > scope with options, reservations etc. Authorized it as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still the clients cannot find a DHCP server!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Four client machines had been switched off during the upgrade

> > process.
> > > > > > After all of the above I booted them and they talked to the new

> DHCP
> > > > > server
> > > > > > fine and have leases.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have had to manually assign addresses to the 26 clients to get

> > them
> > > to
> > > > > > talk on the network. Changing any of them to DHCP will not

work.
> > > After
> > > > > > doing so and doing an ipconfig /renew returns an error that no

> DHCP
> > > > server
> > > > > > can be found.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can anybody through some light on this for me?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Colin Halliday
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

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