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Mark
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      02-01-2012, 04:18 PM
Hi,
My new router has not arrived yet so I am wondering whether my DG834GT
(DGteam) router can be made to work with FTTC until the correct router
arrives. I've searched but it is not 100% clear whether this will
work.
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      02-01-2012, 04:48 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Mark <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hi,
> My new router has not arrived yet so I am wondering whether my DG834GT
> (DGteam) router can be made to work with FTTC until the correct router
> arrives. I've searched but it is not 100% clear whether this will
> work.


I doubt it, since FTTC uses VDSL2, not ADSL.

VDSL2 uses G.993.2, so if the Netgear lists that as a mode,
it might be worth trying, otherwise it probably won't.

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Andrew Benham
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      02-01-2012, 04:49 PM
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:18:03 +0000, Mark wrote:

> Hi,
> My new router has not arrived yet so I am wondering whether my DG834GT
> (DGteam) router can be made to work with FTTC until the correct router
> arrives. I've searched but it is not 100% clear whether this will work.


Not with any "standard" firmware - you'd need to split one Ethernet port
out of the bridge, and run PPPoE over that. You can't split an Ethernet
port out, and you can't run PPPoE out of an Ethernet port.

[ Yes, the DG834GT can do PPPoE, but only over the ADSL modem - so it's
really PPPoEoA ]

I suspect you could put dd-wrt on the DG834GT, but that's quite a big
step to take.

If you have a Linux box which you could use as a router, then there's
rp-pppoe (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe) which will
do the job nicely.
 
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Andrew Benham
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      02-01-2012, 04:51 PM
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:48:58 +0000, Tony Mountifield wrote:

> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Mark
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> My new router has not arrived yet so I am wondering whether my DG834GT
>> (DGteam) router can be made to work with FTTC until the correct router
>> arrives. I've searched but it is not 100% clear whether this will
>> work.

>
> I doubt it, since FTTC uses VDSL2, not ADSL.
>
> VDSL2 uses G.993.2, so if the Netgear lists that as a mode, it might be
> worth trying, otherwise it probably won't.


An FTTC install has a standalone modem (supplied by Openreach). The OP
is (I presume) asking about a router which will talk PPPoE out of an
Ethernet port to connect to that modem.
 
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Andrew Benham
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      02-01-2012, 04:55 PM
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:49:16 +0000, Andrew Benham wrote:

> If you have a Linux box which you could use as a router, then there's
> rp-pppoe (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe) which will do
> the job nicely.


Replying to my own post - for "do the job nicely" read "do the job
adequately". AFAIK rp-pppoe can't currently do baby jumbo frames.
 
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Andrew Benham
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      02-01-2012, 05:00 PM
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:49:16 +0000, Andrew Benham wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:18:03 +0000, Mark wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> My new router has not arrived yet so I am wondering whether my DG834GT
>> (DGteam) router can be made to work with FTTC until the correct router
>> arrives. I've searched but it is not 100% clear whether this will
>> work.

>
> Not with any "standard" firmware - you'd need to split one Ethernet port
> out of the bridge, and run PPPoE over that. You can't split an Ethernet
> port out, and you can't run PPPoE out of an Ethernet port.
>
> [ Yes, the DG834GT can do PPPoE, but only over the ADSL modem - so it's
> really PPPoEoA ]
>
> I suspect you could put dd-wrt on the DG834GT, but that's quite a big
> step to take.
>
> If you have a Linux box which you could use as a router, then there's
> rp-pppoe (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe) which will do
> the job nicely.


For Windows and OSX, see:
http://wiki.aaisp.org.uk/index.php/
FTTC_Modem#Testing_and_using_FTTC_with_just_a_comp uter
 
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      02-01-2012, 08:45 PM
On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:51:39 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Benham
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:48:58 +0000, Tony Mountifield wrote:
>
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Mark
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> My new router has not arrived yet so I am wondering whether my DG834GT
>>> (DGteam) router can be made to work with FTTC until the correct router
>>> arrives. I've searched but it is not 100% clear whether this will
>>> work.

>>
>> I doubt it, since FTTC uses VDSL2, not ADSL.
>>
>> VDSL2 uses G.993.2, so if the Netgear lists that as a mode, it might be
>> worth trying, otherwise it probably won't.

>
>An FTTC install has a standalone modem (supplied by Openreach). The OP
>is (I presume) asking about a router which will talk PPPoE out of an
>Ethernet port to connect to that modem.


Yes, exactly.

 
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      02-01-2012, 08:49 PM
On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:49:16 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Benham
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:18:03 +0000, Mark wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> My new router has not arrived yet so I am wondering whether my DG834GT
>> (DGteam) router can be made to work with FTTC until the correct router
>> arrives. I've searched but it is not 100% clear whether this will work.

>
>Not with any "standard" firmware - you'd need to split one Ethernet port
>out of the bridge, and run PPPoE over that. You can't split an Ethernet
>port out, and you can't run PPPoE out of an Ethernet port.


That's what I suspected.

>[ Yes, the DG834GT can do PPPoE, but only over the ADSL modem - so it's
>really PPPoEoA ]


;-)

>I suspect you could put dd-wrt on the DG834GT, but that's quite a big
>step to take.


dd-wrt doesn't work on this router AFAIK.

>If you have a Linux box which you could use as a router, then there's
>rp-pppoe (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe) which will
>do the job nicely.


I only need a stop-gap solution for a day or two ;-) There's lots of
other possibilities if I had any round tuits. Not sure if I have any
spare LAN cards either.

 
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Andy Burns
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      02-01-2012, 08:54 PM
Mark wrote:

> I only need a stop-gap solution for a day or two ;-)


Try to charm a homehub3 from the back of the BT van with chocolate hobnobs?
 
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Andrew Benham
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      02-01-2012, 09:59 PM
On 01/02/12 21:49, Mark wrote:

>> I suspect you could put dd-wrt on the DG834GT, but that's quite a big
>> step to take.

>
> dd-wrt doesn't work on this router AFAIK.


I'm sure I'd found an article on the web from someone who'd got at
least some of the features working. But I can't find it again.

Openwrt is now supported, if you're brave:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dg834gt


 
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