DG834G BST/GMT ?

Hi,

I noticed as the clocks went back last week, that my routers logged
times remained on BST.

In the Scedule settings page I have the time zone correctly set at 'GMT
Edinburgh, London' also had the 'Adjust for Daylight Saving Time' box
ticked.

Unticking the above box puts it back on GMT, ticking it puts it on BST
even now.

I rather expected that ticking the box would mean it would
automatically switch the routers log time to the correct local time, be
it GMT or BST.

1. Is it supposed to be a manual operation?

2. How often is the routers time updated from the NTP server?

Cheers.

--

Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 08:57:32 GMT, "Harry Bloomfield"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I rather expected that ticking the box would mean it would
> automatically switch the routers log time to the correct local time, be
> it GMT or BST.

That expectation was wrong.

> 1. Is it supposed to be a manual operation?

Yes.

> 2. How often is the routers time updated from the NTP server?

I believe only at one random time within around 6 minutes of bootup. That
randomness was introduced to prevent Netgear's default time servers from
being overloaded at the restoration of power after an area-wide blackout.

Tony

Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 08:57:32 GMT, "Harry Bloomfield"
<snip>
>>2. How often is the routers time updated from the NTP server?
>
>
> I believe only at one random time within around 6 minutes of bootup. That
> randomness was introduced to prevent Netgear's default time servers from
> being overloaded at the restoration of power after an area-wide blackout.
>
I believe it also checks the time at intervals, I think about once a week.

--
John

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 10:05:23 +0000, jelv <(E-Mail Removed)-o-m>
wrote:

> I believe it also checks the time at intervals, I think about once a week.

Thanks - I hadn't spotted that yet in my logs.

Tony

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Harry Bloomfield
<(E-Mail Removed)> Sun, 6 Nov 2005 08:57:32 writes

>I rather expected that ticking the box would mean it would
>automatically switch the routers log time to the correct local time, be
>it GMT or BST.

The time servers just supply an absolute value of time - I presume UT
(GMT)

It is the job of the requesting device to interpret it locally.

As the router is a stand-alone device it has no intelligence to know
when summertime ends or starts for your location. For that it would
need to also ask not just for your time zone but also your country - as
does Windows - and from that apply stored rules. All a bit too much for
a poor router

I would just run the router on GMT and mentally adjust for summer time
as necessary.
--
Les Desser
(The Reply-to address IS valid)

"jelv" <(E-Mail Removed)-o-m> wrote in message
news:436dd561$0$63067$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> > On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 08:57:32 GMT, "Harry Bloomfield"
> <snip>
> >>2. How often is the routers time updated from the NTP server?
> >
> >
> > I believe only at one random time within around 6 minutes of bootup.
That
> > randomness was introduced to prevent Netgear's default time servers from
> > being overloaded at the restoration of power after an area-wide
blackout.
> >
> I believe it also checks the time at intervals, I think about once a week.
>
> --
> John

Correct. Here are two entries from my log file. There was no reboot of the
router between these two log entires


2005-10-31 21:29:40 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Send out NTP request to
time-g.netgear.com
2005-10-31 21:29:40 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Receive NTP Reply from
time-g.netgear.com

2005-11-05 13:48:51 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Send out NTP request to
time-g.netgear.com
2005-11-05 13:48:52 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Receive NTP Reply from
time-g.netgear.com

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:16:40 -0000, "Terry"
<private-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>2005-10-31 21:29:40 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Send out NTP request to
>time-g.netgear.com
>2005-10-31 21:29:40 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Receive NTP Reply from
>time-g.netgear.com
>
>2005-11-05 13:48:51 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Send out NTP request to
>time-g.netgear.com
>2005-11-05 13:48:52 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Receive NTP Reply from
>time-g.netgear.com

I assume from the above you're using syslog rather than just the
emailed log files. What are you using to collect syslog broadcast?

"Simon Pleasants" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:16:40 -0000, "Terry"
> <private-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >2005-10-31 21:29:40 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Send out NTP request to
> >time-g.netgear.com
> >2005-10-31 21:29:40 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Receive NTP Reply from
> >time-g.netgear.com
> >
> >2005-11-05 13:48:51 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Send out NTP request to
> >time-g.netgear.com
> >2005-11-05 13:48:52 Syslog.Info 192.168.0.1 Receive NTP Reply from
> >time-g.netgear.com
>
> I assume from the above you're using syslog rather than just the
> emailed log files. What are you using to collect syslog broadcast?

Yes, thats correct Simon. I use 'Kiwi Syslog Daemon'. You can download the
latest freeware version at http://www.kiwisyslog.com/software_downloads.htm

Hope that help.....

ps. I find it excellent, and use it to collect data from several wireless
access points and a netgear router, within my network.....

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:52:11 -0000, "Terry"
<private-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Yes, thats correct Simon. I use 'Kiwi Syslog Daemon'. You can download the
>latest freeware version at http://www.kiwisyslog.com/software_downloads.htm
>
>Hope that help.....
>
>ps. I find it excellent, and use it to collect data from several wireless
>access points and a netgear router, within my network.....

Thanks. I'll give it a try. I've already downloaded it and tested on
the Draytek I have here but the Draytek pumps out sooooo much
information that finding anything would be a nightmare.

I did wonder if the Draytek syslog software would collect information
from the Netgear but I've never actually got around to trying it.

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:52:11 -0000, "Terry"
<private-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Yes, thats correct Simon. I use 'Kiwi Syslog Daemon'. You can download the
> latest freeware version at http://www.kiwisyslog.com/software_downloads.htm

Many thanks for the tip, it works well.

Tony