DFS replication

Hi all,

I have a master domain and I want to install a child domain into a branch
office.

I want to be able to replicate data between the sites as a backup.

I have read the FAQ's on the DFS site regarding setting this scenario up but
they are a little confusing.

One Faq "Can I host a domain-based DFS namespace in multiple domains?" says
flatly "no"

Another "How does DFS work across domains and forests?" talks about DFS
traversing domains and Forest????

Can someone please confirm ...

Can I replicate data from my parent to child domain by adding a root node
for "branch.parent.com" and "parent.com" or must I have my branch domain
controller as a member of the parent domain rather than the branch. I must
have replication and I would prefer its automatic unless I can script it
fairly easily and reliably.

I would love to have a child domain as it makes more logical sense and
allows me the facility to keep branch secure from head office and vice versa
but the FAQ's seem to suggest that this is not possible.

many thanks all,

jON

The DFS Namespace consists of two parts...

One being the DFS roots (the actual namespace) hosted by the DFS root
servers/targets. --> Those must be in the same domain

The other being the DFS links pointing to the servers hosting the actual
data. Yes, it is possible to replicate data between the servers even if they
are in different domains within the forest..

I suggest you use DFS Namespaces and DFS replication within W2K3 R2 which is
much better...

--

Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

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"Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a master domain and I want to install a child domain into a branch
> office.
>
> I want to be able to replicate data between the sites as a backup.
>
> I have read the FAQ's on the DFS site regarding setting this scenario up
> but they are a little confusing.
>
> One Faq "Can I host a domain-based DFS namespace in multiple domains?"
> says flatly "no"
>
> Another "How does DFS work across domains and forests?" talks about DFS
> traversing domains and Forest????
>
> Can someone please confirm ...
>
> Can I replicate data from my parent to child domain by adding a root node
> for "branch.parent.com" and "parent.com" or must I have my branch domain
> controller as a member of the parent domain rather than the branch. I must
> have replication and I would prefer its automatic unless I can script it
> fairly easily and reliably.
>
> I would love to have a child domain as it makes more logical sense and
> allows me the facility to keep branch secure from head office and vice
> versa but the FAQ's seem to suggest that this is not possible.
>
> many thanks all,
>
> jON
>
>

OK Jorge, that sounds promising.

But both domains must be in the same forest I presume and built as such.
Currently I have an inferred parent child domain that is quite simply

parent = sads.com
child = cottage.sads.com

but they were not installed into the same forest so my first task is to
rebuild cottage.sads.com as a true Forest child domain - yes?

And would replication be automatic between these two if they were coexisting
in the same forest properly or would I have to trigger manual replication?

jON



"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
<SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The DFS Namespace consists of two parts...
>
> One being the DFS roots (the actual namespace) hosted by the DFS root
> servers/targets. --> Those must be in the same domain
>
> The other being the DFS links pointing to the servers hosting the actual
> data. Yes, it is possible to replicate data between the servers even if
> they are in different domains within the forest..
>
> I suggest you use DFS Namespaces and DFS replication within W2K3 R2 which
> is much better...
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>
> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>
> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
> rights!
> * Always test before implementing!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> #################################################
> #################################################
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a master domain and I want to install a child domain into a branch
>> office.
>>
>> I want to be able to replicate data between the sites as a backup.
>>
>> I have read the FAQ's on the DFS site regarding setting this scenario up
>> but they are a little confusing.
>>
>> One Faq "Can I host a domain-based DFS namespace in multiple domains?"
>> says flatly "no"
>>
>> Another "How does DFS work across domains and forests?" talks about DFS
>> traversing domains and Forest????
>>
>> Can someone please confirm ...
>>
>> Can I replicate data from my parent to child domain by adding a root node
>> for "branch.parent.com" and "parent.com" or must I have my branch domain
>> controller as a member of the parent domain rather than the branch. I
>> must have replication and I would prefer its automatic unless I can
>> script it fairly easily and reliably.
>>
>> I would love to have a child domain as it makes more logical sense and
>> allows me the facility to keep branch secure from head office and vice
>> versa but the FAQ's seem to suggest that this is not possible.
>>
>> many thanks all,
>>
>> jON
>>
>>
>
>

auto....

another Q... why created child domain?

why not just migrate the existing domain into the other?

why do you need a child domain (or a separate domain, because it was first
in its own forest)? explain that first

--

Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

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* Always test before implementing!
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"Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK Jorge, that sounds promising.
>
> But both domains must be in the same forest I presume and built as such.
> Currently I have an inferred parent child domain that is quite simply
>
> parent = sads.com
> child = cottage.sads.com
>
> but they were not installed into the same forest so my first task is to
> rebuild cottage.sads.com as a true Forest child domain - yes?
>
> And would replication be automatic between these two if they were
> coexisting in the same forest properly or would I have to trigger manual
> replication?
>
> jON
>
>
>
> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The DFS Namespace consists of two parts...
>>
>> One being the DFS roots (the actual namespace) hosted by the DFS root
>> servers/targets. --> Those must be in the same domain
>>
>> The other being the DFS links pointing to the servers hosting the actual
>> data. Yes, it is possible to replicate data between the servers even if
>> they are in different domains within the forest..
>>
>> I suggest you use DFS Namespaces and DFS replication within W2K3 R2 which
>> is much better...
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>
>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>
>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>> rights!
>> * Always test before implementing!
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> #################################################
>> #################################################
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a master domain and I want to install a child domain into a
>>> branch office.
>>>
>>> I want to be able to replicate data between the sites as a backup.
>>>
>>> I have read the FAQ's on the DFS site regarding setting this scenario up
>>> but they are a little confusing.
>>>
>>> One Faq "Can I host a domain-based DFS namespace in multiple domains?"
>>> says flatly "no"
>>>
>>> Another "How does DFS work across domains and forests?" talks about DFS
>>> traversing domains and Forest????
>>>
>>> Can someone please confirm ...
>>>
>>> Can I replicate data from my parent to child domain by adding a root
>>> node for "branch.parent.com" and "parent.com" or must I have my branch
>>> domain controller as a member of the parent domain rather than the
>>> branch. I must have replication and I would prefer its automatic unless
>>> I can script it fairly easily and reliably.
>>>
>>> I would love to have a child domain as it makes more logical sense and
>>> allows me the facility to keep branch secure from head office and vice
>>> versa but the FAQ's seem to suggest that this is not possible.
>>>
>>> many thanks all,
>>>
>>> jON
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Why a child domain ... seems to make logical sense to have a child domain
for branch office. Also I want to be able to independantly manage the branch
domain but restrict access from the parent.

For years I have had my own set of username/passwords at the branch address
and everything at the branch depends on these credentials. Also, its handy
that the head office can't just browse to the branch office - they have
access to admin passwords etc at head office but the payroll etc is at the
branch. The branch is a seperate autonomous unit. Its not so much an
enforced seperation because I trust the guys at HO but more a "out of sight
out of mind" type thing.

I want to backup critical data from the main office to the branch as a
backup, replicated constantly so that its always up to date.

How do I migrate my branch ... do I remove and reinstall AD on my branch
server? This will lose all my existing credentials which I was rather hoping
to avoid

jON


"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
<SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> auto....
>
> another Q... why created child domain?
>
> why not just migrate the existing domain into the other?
>
> why do you need a child domain (or a separate domain, because it was first
> in its own forest)? explain that first
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>
> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>
> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
> rights!
> * Always test before implementing!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> #################################################
> #################################################
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> OK Jorge, that sounds promising.
>>
>> But both domains must be in the same forest I presume and built as such.
>> Currently I have an inferred parent child domain that is quite simply
>>
>> parent = sads.com
>> child = cottage.sads.com
>>
>> but they were not installed into the same forest so my first task is to
>> rebuild cottage.sads.com as a true Forest child domain - yes?
>>
>> And would replication be automatic between these two if they were
>> coexisting in the same forest properly or would I have to trigger manual
>> replication?
>>
>> jON
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
>> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> The DFS Namespace consists of two parts...
>>>
>>> One being the DFS roots (the actual namespace) hosted by the DFS root
>>> servers/targets. --> Those must be in the same domain
>>>
>>> The other being the DFS links pointing to the servers hosting the actual
>>> data. Yes, it is possible to replicate data between the servers even if
>>> they are in different domains within the forest..
>>>
>>> I suggest you use DFS Namespaces and DFS replication within W2K3 R2
>>> which is much better...
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>>
>>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>>
>>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>>> rights!
>>> * Always test before implementing!
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> #################################################
>>> #################################################
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I have a master domain and I want to install a child domain into a
>>>> branch office.
>>>>
>>>> I want to be able to replicate data between the sites as a backup.
>>>>
>>>> I have read the FAQ's on the DFS site regarding setting this scenario
>>>> up but they are a little confusing.
>>>>
>>>> One Faq "Can I host a domain-based DFS namespace in multiple domains?"
>>>> says flatly "no"
>>>>
>>>> Another "How does DFS work across domains and forests?" talks about DFS
>>>> traversing domains and Forest????
>>>>
>>>> Can someone please confirm ...
>>>>
>>>> Can I replicate data from my parent to child domain by adding a root
>>>> node for "branch.parent.com" and "parent.com" or must I have my branch
>>>> domain controller as a member of the parent domain rather than the
>>>> branch. I must have replication and I would prefer its automatic unless
>>>> I can script it fairly easily and reliably.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to have a child domain as it makes more logical sense and
>>>> allows me the facility to keep branch secure from head office and vice
>>>> versa but the FAQ's seem to suggest that this is not possible.
>>>>
>>>> many thanks all,
>>>>
>>>> jON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

domains in the SAME forest DO NOT have complete isolation... only in
separate forests.... you might as well migrate to the existing domain and
put the current child domain in an OU and delegate everything needed to the
admins in the child domain (inventory what they need)

to migrate
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge...th-ADMTv3.aspx

--

Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
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* Always test before implementing!
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#################################################
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"Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Why a child domain ... seems to make logical sense to have a child domain
> for branch office. Also I want to be able to independantly manage the
> branch domain but restrict access from the parent.
>
> For years I have had my own set of username/passwords at the branch
> address and everything at the branch depends on these credentials. Also,
> its handy that the head office can't just browse to the branch office -
> they have access to admin passwords etc at head office but the payroll etc
> is at the branch. The branch is a seperate autonomous unit. Its not so
> much an enforced seperation because I trust the guys at HO but more a "out
> of sight out of mind" type thing.
>
> I want to backup critical data from the main office to the branch as a
> backup, replicated constantly so that its always up to date.
>
> How do I migrate my branch ... do I remove and reinstall AD on my branch
> server? This will lose all my existing credentials which I was rather
> hoping to avoid
>
> jON
>
>
> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> auto....
>>
>> another Q... why created child domain?
>>
>> why not just migrate the existing domain into the other?
>>
>> why do you need a child domain (or a separate domain, because it was
>> first in its own forest)? explain that first
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cheers,
>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>
>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>
>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>> rights!
>> * Always test before implementing!
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> #################################################
>> #################################################
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> OK Jorge, that sounds promising.
>>>
>>> But both domains must be in the same forest I presume and built as such.
>>> Currently I have an inferred parent child domain that is quite simply
>>>
>>> parent = sads.com
>>> child = cottage.sads.com
>>>
>>> but they were not installed into the same forest so my first task is to
>>> rebuild cottage.sads.com as a true Forest child domain - yes?
>>>
>>> And would replication be automatic between these two if they were
>>> coexisting in the same forest properly or would I have to trigger manual
>>> replication?
>>>
>>> jON
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
>>> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> The DFS Namespace consists of two parts...
>>>>
>>>> One being the DFS roots (the actual namespace) hosted by the DFS root
>>>> servers/targets. --> Those must be in the same domain
>>>>
>>>> The other being the DFS links pointing to the servers hosting the
>>>> actual data. Yes, it is possible to replicate data between the servers
>>>> even if they are in different domains within the forest..
>>>>
>>>> I suggest you use DFS Namespaces and DFS replication within W2K3 R2
>>>> which is much better...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>>>
>>>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>>>
>>>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>>>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>>>> rights!
>>>> * Always test before implementing!
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> #################################################
>>>> #################################################
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a master domain and I want to install a child domain into a
>>>>> branch office.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to be able to replicate data between the sites as a backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have read the FAQ's on the DFS site regarding setting this scenario
>>>>> up but they are a little confusing.
>>>>>
>>>>> One Faq "Can I host a domain-based DFS namespace in multiple
>>>>> domains?" says flatly "no"
>>>>>
>>>>> Another "How does DFS work across domains and forests?" talks about
>>>>> DFS traversing domains and Forest????
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone please confirm ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I replicate data from my parent to child domain by adding a root
>>>>> node for "branch.parent.com" and "parent.com" or must I have my branch
>>>>> domain controller as a member of the parent domain rather than the
>>>>> branch. I must have replication and I would prefer its automatic
>>>>> unless I can script it fairly easily and reliably.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would love to have a child domain as it makes more logical sense and
>>>>> allows me the facility to keep branch secure from head office and vice
>>>>> versa but the FAQ's seem to suggest that this is not possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> many thanks all,
>>>>>
>>>>> jON
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

So I get to keep cottage.sads.com and migrate it into the Forest .... yes?

So I still end up with

sads.com

and

cottage.sads.com

??

jON


"Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
<SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> domains in the SAME forest DO NOT have complete isolation... only in
> separate forests.... you might as well migrate to the existing domain and
> put the current child domain in an OU and delegate everything needed to
> the admins in the child domain (inventory what they need)
>
> to migrate
> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge...th-ADMTv3.aspx
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>
> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>
> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
> rights!
> * Always test before implementing!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> #################################################
> #################################################
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Why a child domain ... seems to make logical sense to have a child domain
>> for branch office. Also I want to be able to independantly manage the
>> branch domain but restrict access from the parent.
>>
>> For years I have had my own set of username/passwords at the branch
>> address and everything at the branch depends on these credentials. Also,
>> its handy that the head office can't just browse to the branch office -
>> they have access to admin passwords etc at head office but the payroll
>> etc is at the branch. The branch is a seperate autonomous unit. Its not
>> so much an enforced seperation because I trust the guys at HO but more a
>> "out of sight out of mind" type thing.
>>
>> I want to backup critical data from the main office to the branch as a
>> backup, replicated constantly so that its always up to date.
>>
>> How do I migrate my branch ... do I remove and reinstall AD on my branch
>> server? This will lose all my existing credentials which I was rather
>> hoping to avoid
>>
>> jON
>>
>>
>> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
>> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> auto....
>>>
>>> another Q... why created child domain?
>>>
>>> why not just migrate the existing domain into the other?
>>>
>>> why do you need a child domain (or a separate domain, because it was
>>> first in its own forest)? explain that first
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>>
>>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>>
>>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>>> rights!
>>> * Always test before implementing!
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> #################################################
>>> #################################################
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> OK Jorge, that sounds promising.
>>>>
>>>> But both domains must be in the same forest I presume and built as
>>>> such. Currently I have an inferred parent child domain that is quite
>>>> simply
>>>>
>>>> parent = sads.com
>>>> child = cottage.sads.com
>>>>
>>>> but they were not installed into the same forest so my first task is to
>>>> rebuild cottage.sads.com as a true Forest child domain - yes?
>>>>
>>>> And would replication be automatic between these two if they were
>>>> coexisting in the same forest properly or would I have to trigger
>>>> manual replication?
>>>>
>>>> jON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
>>>> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in
>>>> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> The DFS Namespace consists of two parts...
>>>>>
>>>>> One being the DFS roots (the actual namespace) hosted by the DFS root
>>>>> servers/targets. --> Those must be in the same domain
>>>>>
>>>>> The other being the DFS links pointing to the servers hosting the
>>>>> actual data. Yes, it is possible to replicate data between the servers
>>>>> even if they are in different domains within the forest..
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest you use DFS Namespaces and DFS replication within W2K3 R2
>>>>> which is much better...
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>>>>
>>>>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>>>>
>>>>> BLOG (WEB-BASED)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/default.aspx
>>>>> BLOG (RSS-FEEDS)--> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/rss.aspx
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> * This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no
>>>>> rights!
>>>>> * Always test before implementing!
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> #################################################
>>>>> #################################################
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a master domain and I want to install a child domain into a
>>>>>> branch office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to be able to replicate data between the sites as a backup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have read the FAQ's on the DFS site regarding setting this scenario
>>>>>> up but they are a little confusing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One Faq "Can I host a domain-based DFS namespace in multiple
>>>>>> domains?" says flatly "no"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another "How does DFS work across domains and forests?" talks about
>>>>>> DFS traversing domains and Forest????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone please confirm ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I replicate data from my parent to child domain by adding a root
>>>>>> node for "branch.parent.com" and "parent.com" or must I have my
>>>>>> branch domain controller as a member of the parent domain rather than
>>>>>> the branch. I must have replication and I would prefer its automatic
>>>>>> unless I can script it fairly easily and reliably.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to have a child domain as it makes more logical sense
>>>>>> and allows me the facility to keep branch secure from head office and
>>>>>> vice versa but the FAQ's seem to suggest that this is not possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> many thanks all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jON
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>

no... you cannot cut and paste a domain from one forest into another
forest.... migration is the key here

see:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge...th-ADMTv3.aspx

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# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

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"Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> So I get to keep cottage.sads.com and migrate it into the Forest .... yes?
>
> So I still end up with
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> sads.com
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> and
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> cottage.sads.com
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> ??
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> jON
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>
> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
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>> domains in the SAME forest DO NOT have complete isolation... only in
>> separate forests.... you might as well migrate to the existing domain and
>> put the current child domain in an OU and delegate everything needed to
>> the admins in the child domain (inventory what they need)
>>
>> to migrate
>> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge...th-ADMTv3.aspx
>>
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>> Cheers,
>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>
>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>
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>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>> Why a child domain ... seems to make logical sense to have a child
>>> domain for branch office. Also I want to be able to independantly manage
>>> the branch domain but restrict access from the parent.
>>>
>>> For years I have had my own set of username/passwords at the branch
>>> address and everything at the branch depends on these credentials. Also,
>>> its handy that the head office can't just browse to the branch office -
>>> they have access to admin passwords etc at head office but the payroll
>>> etc is at the branch. The branch is a seperate autonomous unit. Its not
>>> so much an enforced seperation because I trust the guys at HO but more a
>>> "out of sight out of mind" type thing.
>>>
>>> I want to backup critical data from the main office to the branch as a
>>> backup, replicated constantly so that its always up to date.
>>>
>>> How do I migrate my branch ... do I remove and reinstall AD on my branch
>>> server? This will lose all my existing credentials which I was rather
>>> hoping to avoid
>>>
>>> jON
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
>>> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in message
>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> auto....
>>>>
>>>> another Q... why created child domain?
>>>>
>>>> why not just migrate the existing domain into the other?
>>>>
>>>> why do you need a child domain (or a separate domain, because it was
>>>> first in its own forest)? explain that first
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
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>>>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>>>> OK Jorge, that sounds promising.
>>>>>
>>>>> But both domains must be in the same forest I presume and built as
>>>>> such. Currently I have an inferred parent child domain that is quite
>>>>> simply
>>>>>
>>>>> parent = sads.com
>>>>> child = cottage.sads.com
>>>>>
>>>>> but they were not installed into the same forest so my first task is
>>>>> to rebuild cottage.sads.com as a true Forest child domain - yes?
>>>>>
>>>>> And would replication be automatic between these two if they were
>>>>> coexisting in the same forest properly or would I have to trigger
>>>>> manual replication?
>>>>>
>>>>> jON
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jorge de Almeida Pinto [MVP - DS]"
>>>>> <SubstituteThisWithMyFullNameSeparatedByDots@gmail .com> wrote in
>>>>> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> The DFS Namespace consists of two parts...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One being the DFS roots (the actual namespace) hosted by the DFS root
>>>>>> servers/targets. --> Those must be in the same domain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other being the DFS links pointing to the servers hosting the
>>>>>> actual data. Yes, it is possible to replicate data between the
>>>>>> servers even if they are in different domains within the forest..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest you use DFS Namespaces and DFS replication within W2K3 R2
>>>>>> which is much better...
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> (HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> "Jon Rowlan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a master domain and I want to install a child domain into a
>>>>>>> branch office.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to be able to replicate data between the sites as a backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have read the FAQ's on the DFS site regarding setting this
>>>>>>> scenario up but they are a little confusing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One Faq "Can I host a domain-based DFS namespace in multiple
>>>>>>> domains?" says flatly "no"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another "How does DFS work across domains and forests?" talks about
>>>>>>> DFS traversing domains and Forest????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone please confirm ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I replicate data from my parent to child domain by adding a root
>>>>>>> node for "branch.parent.com" and "parent.com" or must I have my
>>>>>>> branch domain controller as a member of the parent domain rather
>>>>>>> than the branch. I must have replication and I would prefer its
>>>>>>> automatic unless I can script it fairly easily and reliably.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love to have a child domain as it makes more logical sense
>>>>>>> and allows me the facility to keep branch secure from head office
>>>>>>> and vice versa but the FAQ's seem to suggest that this is not
>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> many thanks all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jON
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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