Demon Home 500 and Network?

Thinking of going for this package but on the Demon site there is a
note that says you have to use the supplied USB modem and if you
connect via an ADSL modem/router you will be in breach of contract and
could be booted off!
Is this true?
Will they ever know?
Gelf

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Gelf says...
> Thinking of going for this package but on the Demon site there is a
> note that says you have to use the supplied USB modem and if you
> connect via an ADSL modem/router you will be in breach of contract and
> could be booted off!
> Is this true?
> Will they ever know?
> Gelf
>
THey can pretty much work it out from your connection pattern.

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On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 13:00:19 +0000, Gelf <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Is this true?

you said it, how are we to know.

It appears to conflict with "Home 500 is a self-install service i.e.
you are free to source the appropriate DSL modem and appropriate
number of microfilters yourself to support the installation. However,
our recommended modem can be included when you order." at
http://www.demon.net/adsl/expresspac...0-support.html

>Will they ever know?

no. Unless you tell them.

Phil
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:04:59 -0000, "Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

(someone else said)
>> >
>> THey can pretty much work it out from your connection pattern.
>>
>
>I know lots of people who leave their PC / modem connected 24/7

And if you use a router, you're literally always on.

> >
> THey can pretty much work it out from your connection pattern.
>


How?

I know lots of people who leave their PC / modem connected 24/7


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On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:20:39 GMT, Mark McIntyre
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:04:59 -0000, "Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>(someone else said)
>>> >
>>> THey can pretty much work it out from your connection pattern.
>>>
>>
>>I know lots of people who leave their PC / modem connected 24/7
>
>And if you use a router, you're literally always on.

Only if you leave it on all the time.

There is no real reason to do so, unless you have the router in a room
that not everybody accessing the internet has permanent access to,
since it takes it less time to connect than it does to boot a PC.

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:51:33 +0000, Alex Heney <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:20:39 GMT, Mark McIntyre
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>And if you use a router, you're literally always on.
>
>Only if you leave it on all the time.
>
>There is no real reason to do so,

eh? There's no real reason to leave your phone plugged in either, or
your TV on standby, or your VCR powered up, but most people do.

> unless you have the router in a room
>that not everybody accessing the internet has permanent access to,

two ehs?

>since it takes it less time to connect than it does to boot a PC.

My laptop boots in around 3 seconds. Faster than the router can get
synched.

Phil Thompson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..

i've just received the bunff from demon after signing up for this
package and it has a section on setting up its supplied usb modem. it
does mention however, that its helpline doesn't support setting up any
routers. so i can only suppose that they do know people connect with a
router ie more than one cpu is connected.

> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 13:00:19 +0000, Gelf <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Is this true?
>
> you said it, how are we to know.
>
> It appears to conflict with "Home 500 is a self-install service i.e.
> you are free to source the appropriate DSL modem and appropriate
> number of microfilters yourself to support the installation. However,
> our recommended modem can be included when you order." at
> http://www.demon.net/adsl/expresspac...0-support.html
>
> >Will they ever know?
>
> no. Unless you tell them.
>
> Phil

"Alex Heney" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:20:39 GMT, Mark McIntyre
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:04:59 -0000, "Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>(someone else said)
>>>> >
>>>> THey can pretty much work it out from your connection pattern.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I know lots of people who leave their PC / modem connected 24/7
>>
>>And if you use a router, you're literally always on.
>
> Only if you leave it on all the time.
>
> There is no real reason to do so, unless you have the router in a room
> that not everybody accessing the internet has permanent access to,
> since it takes it less time to connect than it does to boot a PC.

But what valid reasons are there to switch a router/modem off..?
Personally I can't think of one. It doesn't exactly use megawatts of
electricity and it's convenient to just switch on a PC (assuming you
switch *them* off, which I don't) and do whatever you want to do.

Ivor

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 00:05:32 GMT, Mark McIntyre
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:51:33 +0000, Alex Heney <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:20:39 GMT, Mark McIntyre
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>And if you use a router, you're literally always on.
>>
>>Only if you leave it on all the time.
>>
>>There is no real reason to do so,
>
>eh? There's no real reason to leave your phone plugged in either, or
>your TV on standby, or your VCR powered up, but most people do.
>

Well the phone should be left plugged in unless you don't want to be
contactable, and if you unplug the VCR, you will have to re-enter the
clock details at lest, and probably retune, before you can program it.


>> unless you have the router in a room
>>that not everybody accessing the internet has permanent access to,
>
>two ehs?
>

If, for instance, the router is in a bedroom, you don't want others
going in there to turn it on when the bedroom "owner" is asleep.

But if it is in a room where it is always accessible, that
consideration does not apply.


>>since it takes it less time to connect than it does to boot a PC.
>
>My laptop boots in around 3 seconds. Faster than the router can get
>synched.
>

OK.

I was assuming Windows or Linux OS. What does your laptop use, to be
able to be ready to use that fast?

But anyway, the point is, you don't *have* to leave it on all the time
(I don't as it happens), so you can't be sure you are "literally
always on" with a router.

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