DD-WRT and file & print sharing

Is there something in the DD-WRT firmware that needs to be enabled in
order
for me to see the other (2) PC's on the router? They show up in the
DHCP client's
list but I can't see them in windows. Maybe it's the OS? I'm running
W2K, my
sister's PC is on Win98se and my brother is XP home.

Help?

Ken

"KG0WX" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Is there something in the DD-WRT firmware that needs to be enabled in
>order
>for me to see the other (2) PC's on the router? They show up in the
>DHCP client's
>list but I can't see them in windows. Maybe it's the OS? I'm running
>W2K, my
>sister's PC is on Win98se and my brother is XP home.

Can you ping the other machines?

What happens when you try:
Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
\\ip_address_of_other_machine

Are these other clients connected via wireless or via wired ethernet?
If wireless, there is a feature called "AP Isolation" which is used by
hot spots to prevent wireless clients from seeing (and attacking) each
other. It should be disabled (by default):
<http://www.informatione.gmxhome.de/DDWRT/Standard/V23final/Wireless_Advanced.html>
(near the middle of the list).

Otherwise, look for the usual problems with Windoze firewall
exceptions, 3rd part Internet security systems, mixed Windoze
workgroups, file sharing disabled, etc.
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KG0WX wrote:
> Is there something in the DD-WRT firmware that needs to be enabled in
> order
> for me to see the other (2) PC's on the router? They show up in the
> DHCP client's
> list but I can't see them in windows. Maybe it's the OS? I'm running
> W2K, my
> sister's PC is on Win98se and my brother is XP home.
>
> Help?
>
> Ken
>
Try disabling the loopback feature. This is taken from help on the
management screen "The loopback is an option because it will break pptp
and windows machine browsing by wireless clients"

I haven't tried playing with it but I came across it and thought I would
post the info.

Ian

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

>
> Can you ping the other machines?
>
> What happens when you try:
> Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
> \\ip_address_of_other_machine
>
> Are these other clients connected via wireless or via wired ethernet?
> If wireless, there is a feature called "AP Isolation" which is used by
> hot spots to prevent wireless clients from seeing (and attacking) each
> other. It should be disabled (by default):
> <http://www.informatione.gmxhome.de/DDWRT/Standard/V23final/Wireless_Advanced.html>
> (near the middle of the list).
>
> Otherwise, look for the usual problems with Windoze firewall
> exceptions, 3rd part Internet security systems, mixed Windoze
> workgroups, file sharing disabled, etc.
> --
> Jeff Liebermann

Thanks, Jeff - both the other machines are using the wired portion
of the router (WRT54g v4). I can ping the 98 machine but get a timeout
when trying the XP machine. I can ping myself, of course.

AP Isolation is off and I tried turning off the loopback (do I need to
reboot
the pc's?) but got no improvement.

I tried turning off the Sygate firewall's running on the XP & 2k
machines
and made sure F&P sharing was enabled. I also verified that all
machines
are spelling the workgroup name (WORKGROUP) identically.

No success.........

Ken

In article <(E-Mail Removed) .com>, "KG0WX" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>>
>> Can you ping the other machines?
>>
>> What happens when you try:
>> Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
>> \\ip_address_of_other_machine
>>
>> Are these other clients connected via wireless or via wired ethernet?
>> If wireless, there is a feature called "AP Isolation" which is used by
>> hot spots to prevent wireless clients from seeing (and attacking) each
>> other. It should be disabled (by default):
>>
> <http://www.informatione.gmxhome.de/D...eless_Advanced.
>html>
>> (near the middle of the list).
>>
>> Otherwise, look for the usual problems with Windoze firewall
>> exceptions, 3rd part Internet security systems, mixed Windoze
>> workgroups, file sharing disabled, etc.
>> --
>> Jeff Liebermann
>
>Thanks, Jeff - both the other machines are using the wired portion
>of the router (WRT54g v4). I can ping the 98 machine but get a timeout
>when trying the XP machine. I can ping myself, of course.
>
>AP Isolation is off and I tried turning off the loopback (do I need to
>reboot
>the pc's?) but got no improvement.
>
>I tried turning off the Sygate firewall's running on the XP & 2k
>machines
>and made sure F&P sharing was enabled. I also verified that all
>machines
>are spelling the workgroup name (WORKGROUP) identically.
>
>No success.........
>
>Ken
>
Sorry, coming into this conversation late, so I haven't read the
first part. You mentioned disabling Sygate's firewall, how about
XP's native firewall? If you have SP2 installed, it is enabled by
default. I have had problems with XP machines not seeing the
workgroup and it turned out to be XP's firewall.


Gordon Montgomery
Living Scriptures, Inc
(E-Mail Removed) (anti spam - replace lsi with livingscriptures)
(801) 627-2000

"KG0WX" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>>
>> Can you ping the other machines?
>>
>> What happens when you try:
>> Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
>> \\ip_address_of_other_machine
>>
>> Are these other clients connected via wireless or via wired ethernet?
>> If wireless, there is a feature called "AP Isolation" which is used by
>> hot spots to prevent wireless clients from seeing (and attacking) each
>> other. It should be disabled (by default):
>> <http://www.informatione.gmxhome.de/DDWRT/Standard/V23final/Wireless_Advanced.html>
>> (near the middle of the list).
>>
>> Otherwise, look for the usual problems with Windoze firewall
>> exceptions, 3rd part Internet security systems, mixed Windoze
>> workgroups, file sharing disabled, etc.
>> --
>> Jeff Liebermann


>Thanks, Jeff - both the other machines are using the wired portion
>of the router (WRT54g v4). I can ping the 98 machine but get a timeout
>when trying the XP machine. I can ping myself, of course.

Let's take one machine at a time please.

In the XP machine, ping is normally disabled in both the Windoze
firewall exceptions and in your Sygate proxy. You're not going to get
anywhere until you disable BOTH of these. What happens is that you
disable Sygate, which by default, turns on the native Windoze
Firewall. Try to get it to the point where you can ping the XP box
from BOTH other machines.

What happens when you try:
Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
\\ip_address_of_other_machine
This is indpendent of ping and will work even if ping does not.

>AP Isolation is off and I tried turning off the loopback (do I need to
>reboot
>the pc's?) but got no improvement.

I don't know about the loopback suggestion. I've never had to play
with it and have no idea why it would make any difference.

>I tried turning off the Sygate firewall's running on the XP & 2k
>machines
>and made sure F&P sharing was enabled. I also verified that all
>machines
>are spelling the workgroup name (WORKGROUP) identically.

Try removing the wireless from the picture and just plug the wireless
computer into the router with an ethernet cable. Once that's working,
then we can deal with the wireless.

>No success.........

Patience. I think you have a fairly typical mess of Windoze internet
protection software that is doing its best to get in the way. I'm
fairly convinced that the wireless and the router configuration are
correct and have nothing to do with the problem. I'll leave you to
deal with the various computers. It might be something as simple as
not having file and print sharing turned on. What happens when you
browse a computer from itself? You should see your computer name in
"network neighborhood" or whatever XP calls it. If you don't see your
own computer, sharing is off.

I've found it easier to do testing from the command line because of
better error messages. Try:
Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
net view
net view \\ip_address
net view \\netbios_machine_name
net view \\your_own_computer_name
Try these.

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Gordon Montgomery wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed) .com>, "KG0WX" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> Sorry, coming into this conversation late, so I haven't read the
> first part. You mentioned disabling Sygate's firewall, how about
> XP's native firewall? If you have SP2 installed, it is enabled by
> default. I have had problems with XP machines not seeing the
> workgroup and it turned out to be XP's firewall.
>
>
> Gordon Montgomery
> Living Scriptures, Inc
> (E-Mail Removed) (anti spam - replace lsi with livingscriptures)
> (801) 627-2000

Yep, did that. No luck.

Thanks for the idea, though. :-)

Ken

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>"KG0WX" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>Is there something in the DD-WRT firmware that needs to be enabled in
>>order
>>for me to see the other (2) PC's on the router? They show up in the
>>DHCP client's
>>list but I can't see them in windows. Maybe it's the OS? I'm running
>>W2K, my
>>sister's PC is on Win98se and my brother is XP home.
>
>Can you ping the other machines?
>
>What happens when you try:
> Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
> \\ip_address_of_other_machine
>
>Are these other clients connected via wireless or via wired ethernet?
>If wireless, there is a feature called "AP Isolation" which is used by
>hot spots to prevent wireless clients from seeing (and attacking) each
>other. It should be disabled (by default):
><http://www.informatione.gmxhome.de/D...ess_Advanced.h
>tml>
>(near the middle of the list).
>
>Otherwise, look for the usual problems with Windoze firewall
>exceptions, 3rd part Internet security systems, mixed Windoze
>workgroups, file sharing disabled, etc.

DDWRT type question, but differring 'problem'. WRT54G V2 DDWRT current full
version.

Have you seen or heard of issues with the web interface not
displaying/rendering properly in IE7? Note router fully functional etc just
the GUI/Web interface doesn't render properly in IE 7. Renders fine in IE6
though. So just wondering have you in your reading seen this mentioned?

fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.

(E-Mail Removed) (Rico) hath wroth:

>DDWRT type question, but differring 'problem'. WRT54G V2 DDWRT current full
>version.

So, start a new thread.

>Have you seen or heard of issues with the web interface not
>displaying/rendering properly in IE7? Note router fully functional etc just
>the GUI/Web interface doesn't render properly in IE 7. Renders fine in IE6
>though. So just wondering have you in your reading seen this mentioned?

No clue. I do just about everything with Firefox 2.0 and use IE only
for updates and worthless web sites that only function with IE (such
as my bank and brokerage). I'll try it when I have a chance.

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) (Rico) hath wroth:
>
>> DDWRT type question, but differring 'problem'. WRT54G V2 DDWRT current full
>> version.
>
> So, start a new thread.
>
>> Have you seen or heard of issues with the web interface not
>> displaying/rendering properly in IE7? Note router fully functional etc just
>> the GUI/Web interface doesn't render properly in IE 7. Renders fine in IE6
>> though. So just wondering have you in your reading seen this mentioned?
>
> No clue. I do just about everything with Firefox 2.0 and use IE only
> for updates and worthless web sites that only function with IE (such
> as my bank and brokerage). I'll try it when I have a chance.
>

Jeff, if you want to get away from using IE completely even for Windows
Updates and site that require it then try this extension add on it works
for Firefox, SeaMonkey and Mozilla.

Get it here.

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/

Jeff, I sure would like you input on the following subject.

news://newsgroups.bellsouth.net:119/IWrph.7362$(E-Mail Removed)

Danny Kile,