daisychaining routers

I've just got a new router/modem (Belkin Pre-n) which has WPA encryption
which is fine. The only problem is that my wireless Sqeezebox1 music
streaming device doesn't. I still have the old router and I understand that
I could connect this up and use it to communicate with my Sqeezebox.

Is it just a case of daisy chaining the two routers and how do I ensure that
I'm not degrading the security of my whole system by putting an old router
with just WEP encrption back into the system. The old router would be used
solely for connecting the Sqeezebox.

Tim

"Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've just got a new router/modem (Belkin Pre-n) which has WPA encryption
> which is fine. The only problem is that my wireless Sqeezebox1 music
> streaming device doesn't. I still have the old router and I understand
that
> I could connect this up and use it to communicate with my Sqeezebox.
>
> Is it just a case of daisy chaining the two routers and how do I ensure
that
> I'm not degrading the security of my whole system by putting an old router
> with just WEP encrption back into the system. The old router would be
used
> solely for connecting the Sqeezebox.
>

You can't. . Once you go down to WEP you have opened the system. You could
lock the MAC address but cloneing a MAC address is not too tricky...

> Tim
>
>

David Wade wrote:
> "Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I've just got a new router/modem (Belkin Pre-n) which has WPA
>> encryption which is fine. The only problem is that my wireless
>> Sqeezebox1 music streaming device doesn't. I still have the old
>> router and I understand that I could connect this up and use it to
>> communicate with my Sqeezebox.
>>
>> Is it just a case of daisy chaining the two routers and how do I
>> ensure that I'm not degrading the security of my whole system by
>> putting an old router with just WEP encrption back into the system.
>> The old router would be used solely for connecting the Sqeezebox.
>>
>
> You can't. . Once you go down to WEP you have opened the system. You
> could lock the MAC address but cloneing a MAC address is not too
> tricky...

Probably beyond me but is there no way of configuring the firewall so that
the only data that could be hacked into was the streamed audio? (Forgive me
if this is a stupid question but my knowledge of routers and firewalls is
pretty limited).

Tim
>
>> Tim

"Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> David Wade wrote:
>> "Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I've just got a new router/modem (Belkin Pre-n) which has WPA
>>> encryption which is fine. The only problem is that my wireless
>>> Sqeezebox1 music streaming device doesn't. I still have the old
>>> router and I understand that I could connect this up and use it to
>>> communicate with my Sqeezebox.
>>>
>>> Is it just a case of daisy chaining the two routers and how do I
>>> ensure that I'm not degrading the security of my whole system by
>>> putting an old router with just WEP encrption back into the system.
>>> The old router would be used solely for connecting the Sqeezebox.
>>>
>>
>> You can't. . Once you go down to WEP you have opened the system. You
>> could lock the MAC address but cloneing a MAC address is not too
>> tricky...
>
> Probably beyond me but is there no way of configuring the firewall so that
> the only data that could be hacked into was the streamed audio? (Forgive
> me if this is a stupid question but my knowledge of routers and firewalls
> is pretty limited).
>

Yes it can. Take a look here: http://www.grc.com/nat/nat.htm

It's not exactly your situation but might give you some ideas.

Rob

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:53:14 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband , "Tim
Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>David Wade wrote:
>> "Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>> Is it just a case of daisy chaining the two routers and how do I
>>> ensure that I'm not degrading the security of my whole system by
>>> putting an old router with just WEP encrption back into the system.
>>> The old router would be used solely for connecting the Sqeezebox.
>>>
>>
>> You can't. . Once you go down to WEP you have opened the system.
>
>Probably beyond me but is there no way of configuring the firewall so that
>the only data that could be hacked into was the streamed audio? (Forgive me
>if this is a stupid question but my knowledge of routers and firewalls is
>pretty limited).

What you could do is get a /third/ router, and attach the WEP-only
router to its WAN port. It would then be 'outside' the firewall in
the 3rd router's firewall, and you could configure the router to allow
only certain ports.

Mark McIntyre
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Mark McIntyre wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:53:14 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband , "Tim
> Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> David Wade wrote:
>>> "Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>> Is it just a case of daisy chaining the two routers and how do I
>>>> ensure that I'm not degrading the security of my whole system by
>>>> putting an old router with just WEP encrption back into the system.
>>>> The old router would be used solely for connecting the Sqeezebox.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can't. . Once you go down to WEP you have opened the system.
>>
>> Probably beyond me but is there no way of configuring the firewall
>> so that the only data that could be hacked into was the streamed
>> audio? (Forgive me if this is a stupid question but my knowledge of
>> routers and firewalls is pretty limited).
>
> What you could do is get a /third/ router, and attach the WEP-only
> router to its WAN port. It would then be 'outside' the firewall in
> the 3rd router's firewall, and you could configure the router to allow
> only certain ports.

Getting way too complicated for me. ;-) I suspect I'll just hard-wire the
damn thing in. A lot simpler & more secure if not so neat or elegant.

Tim