D-Link Question

I bought a D-Link router (DI-604) to hook up to a 10 base port but the
directions said to type in 129/168/0/1 in the setup wizard. Since I don't
want to register this or any hardware, should I return it?

Skeptical...

"PRIVACY IS A RIGHT!"

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"Skeptic" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I bought a D-Link router (DI-604) to hook up to a 10 base port but the
> directions said to type in 129/168/0/1 in the setup wizard. Since I don't
> want to register this or any hardware, should I return it?
>
> Skeptical...
>
> "PRIVACY IS A RIGHT!"
>
> --
> «Skeptical comments belong to Skeptical author alone.»

Here's an interesting thing, it appears you are at an .EDU location.
College? That might be interesting....

Now, if you are having a DSL line installed in a dorm, or something, then
the rest applies.

And, if you aren't at college, but just have some weird NNTP server address
you use, the rest applies....

Yes, Privacy is a right, indeed, but your cable/DSL company will not find
out if you are using a router unless you tell them or there is a constant
near-100% load on your line, which they can tell.

Now, since it appears you have never set up a router, the address
192.168.0.1 is a LAN address (Class C) and is by default the address for
most routers (some are 192.168.1.1). That gets typed in the browser, so you
are actually going to go to http://192.168.0.1/ and setup the configuration.
This is more important for DSL, than for cable, since you have to login to
DSL, but you don't for cable (atleast around my area, maybe your cable logs
in too, then you need to setup it up to login as your username/password as
well). Once you do that, none of your PCs behind the LAN will EVER need to
login, but likewise, can't logout.

So, no, don't bring it back. Go to that "web site" in your browser, setup
your router and hopefully enjoy your shared connection.

"Chuck G." <nospam@nospam> wrote:

>"Skeptic" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:Skeptical-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I bought a D-Link router (DI-604) to hook up to a 10 base port but the
>> directions said to type in 129/168/0/1 in the setup wizard. Since I don't
>> want to register this or any hardware, should I return it?
>>
>> Skeptical...
>>
>> "PRIVACY IS A RIGHT!"
>>
>> --
>> «Skeptical comments belong to Skeptical author alone.»
>
>
>The address 129.168.0.1 is used to access the router's web-based
>configuration program. Read your user's manual.

So why would they use a public class B address for the user interface
of a router?
But if it were 192.168.0.1 it would make sense
Anyway, if someone doesn't want to configure his hardware or even
doesn't realize that he has to configure it or simply is unable to
read a manual, he'd better bring the device back to where he got it
from. Especially if one is concerned about his privacy a router with
the wrong configuration could easily undermine the same.
Also if the manual really states you should type 129/168/0/1 to open
the user interface, it is better to look out for another vendor.

regards
André

"André Franke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Chuck G." <nospam@nospam> wrote:
>
> >"Skeptic" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:Skeptical-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I bought a D-Link router (DI-604) to hook up to a 10 base port but the
> >> directions said to type in 129/168/0/1 in the setup wizard. Since I
don't
> >> want to register this or any hardware, should I return it?
> >>
> >> Skeptical...
> >>
> >> "PRIVACY IS A RIGHT!"
> >>
> >> --
> >> «Skeptical comments belong to Skeptical author alone.»
> >
> >
> >The address 129.168.0.1 is used to access the router's web-based
> >configuration program. Read your user's manual.
>
> So why would they use a public class B address for the user interface
> of a router?
> But if it were 192.168.0.1 it would make sense
> Anyway, if someone doesn't want to configure his hardware or even
> doesn't realize that he has to configure it or simply is unable to
> read a manual, he'd better bring the device back to where he got it
> from. Especially if one is concerned about his privacy a router with
> the wrong configuration could easily undermine the same.
> Also if the manual really states you should type 129/168/0/1 to open
> the user interface, it is better to look out for another vendor.
>
> regards
> André


Geeeeez, give it a rest. I looked at my router config before responding and
I still propogated his typo (and "no", it's not wrong in the manual either).
If this guy needs to return his router for the reasons that you stated, he
probably needs to return his whole computer and shut-off his internet
service as well.

- Chuck

"Chuck G." <nospam@nospam> wrote:
>
>Geeeeez, give it a rest. I looked at my router config before responding and
>I still propogated his typo (and "no", it's not wrong in the manual either).
>If this guy needs to return his router for the reasons that you stated, he
>probably needs to return his whole computer and shut-off his internet
>service as well.

This is what I tried to make clear.
If someone want's to protect his privacy and is that paranoid that he
smells privacy violations even in configuring instructions, the
internet would be the hardest place to do that.
What if they cheated you when they sold you a fridge? What if it sends
data about its contents via the powerline, everytime you open it?
What if there is a small camera built into your tv? 8o)

regards
André

"André Franke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Chuck G." <nospam@nospam> wrote:
> >
> >Geeeeez, give it a rest. I looked at my router config before responding and
> >I still propogated his typo (and "no", it's not wrong in the manual either).
> >If this guy needs to return his router for the reasons that you stated, he
> >probably needs to return his whole computer and shut-off his internet
> >service as well.
>
> This is what I tried to make clear.
> If someone want's to protect his privacy and is that paranoid that he
> smells privacy violations even in configuring instructions, the
> internet would be the hardest place to do that.
> What if they cheated you when they sold you a fridge? What if it sends
> data about its contents via the powerline, everytime you open it?
> What if there is a small camera built into your tv? 8o)
>
> regards
> André

I'm not sure I understand all the fuss about "privacy" in this context, but
on my D-Link 604, the config IP address can only be accessed from a
LAN port, not from the WAN port. Does that answer the issue?


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"Dan Wojciechowski" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>I'm not sure I understand all the fuss about "privacy" in this context, but
>on my D-Link 604, the config IP address can only be accessed from a
>LAN port, not from the WAN port. Does that answer the issue?

Dan,
it won't help to explain that the LAN port is somewhat secure.
The user doesn't seem to know how a network or even TCP/IP works at
all. He is concerned about having to type an address in order to
access his device.
For someone who doesn't want to specify an address in order to connect
to a destination it is pointless to have a connection available.
And full privacy on the internet is just an illusion.

regards
André