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Joan Sanchez
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      09-24-2003, 10:17 AM
Hello,

Out of necessity, I need to setup a spooler server in my linux box to share
printers with my
windows clients, does anyone know what's the best choice between these spool
software:
CUPS, lpd or LPRng?

Postscript: All printers are connected to the net by a jetdirect.

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      09-24-2003, 10:52 AM
Joan Sanchez wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Out of necessity, I need to setup a spooler server in my linux box to
> share printers with my
> windows clients, does anyone know what's the best choice between these
> spool software:
> CUPS, lpd or LPRng?


I'd go with CUPS, as later versions of Windows understand the protocol it
uses. With the others, you'd have to use Samba, for Windows to use the
printers.


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      09-24-2003, 01:27 PM
Do you have any documentation about setup and administration cups to share
printers
with windows clients?

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> Joan Sanchez wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Out of necessity, I need to setup a spooler server in my linux box to
> > share printers with my
> > windows clients, does anyone know what's the best choice between these
> > spool software:
> > CUPS, lpd or LPRng?

>
> I'd go with CUPS, as later versions of Windows understand the protocol it
> uses. With the others, you'd have to use Samba, for Windows to use the
> printers.
>
>
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      09-24-2003, 06:56 PM
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:52:03 +0000, James Knott wrote:

> Joan Sanchez wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Out of necessity, I need to setup a spooler server in my linux box to
>> share printers with my
>> windows clients, does anyone know what's the best choice between these
>> spool software:
>> CUPS, lpd or LPRng?

>
> I'd go with CUPS, as later versions of Windows understand the protocol it
> uses. With the others, you'd have to use Samba, for Windows to use the
> printers.


Cups *uses* samba to talk to windows systems. Cups admin doc is available
on their site.

 
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      09-24-2003, 10:21 PM
Nothing that I didn't find on the CUPS site. However, with later versions
of Windows, such as XP, you can select a printer using the URL for it.


Joan Sanchez wrote:

> Do you have any documentation about setup and administration cups to share
> printers
> with windows clients?
>
> "James Knott" <(E-Mail Removed)> escribió en el mensaje
> news:nHecb.76938$(E-Mail Removed) le.rogers.com...
>> Joan Sanchez wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Out of necessity, I need to setup a spooler server in my linux box to
>> > share printers with my
>> > windows clients, does anyone know what's the best choice between these
>> > spool software:
>> > CUPS, lpd or LPRng?

>>
>> I'd go with CUPS, as later versions of Windows understand the protocol it
>> uses. With the others, you'd have to use Samba, for Windows to use the
>> printers.
>>
>>
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      09-24-2003, 10:25 PM
joseph philip wrote:

> Cups uses samba to talk to windows systems. Cups admin doc is available
> on their site.
>


CUPS can use Samba, but it defaults to the Internet Printing Protocol, which
is accessed as a URL, in the same manner as a web page.

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      09-24-2003, 10:49 PM
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:25:02 +0000, James Knott wrote:

> joseph philip wrote:
>
>> Cups uses samba to talk to windows systems. Cups admin doc is
>> available on their site.
>>
>>

> CUPS can use Samba, but it defaults to the Internet Printing Protocol,
> which is accessed as a URL, in the same manner as a web page.


True. There is some thing you have to do before the protocol selection
allows you to select smb.

Does this "IPP" have a comparable host on the windows side? What else
speaks IPP?

 
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      09-25-2003, 01:46 AM
joseph philip wrote:

>> CUPS can use Samba, but it defaults to the Internet Printing Protocol,
>> which is accessed as a URL, in the same manner as a web page.

>
> True. There is some thing you have to do before the protocol selection
> allows you to select smb.
>
> Does this "IPP" have a comparable host on the windows side? What else
> speaks IPP?
>


As I mentioned, XP does. W98 doesn't appear to. I'm not sure about Me or
2000. I don't recall the details, but it's much the same as creating a
regular network printer connection. On one page of the settings, you get
to choose which method to use for connecting to the server.


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      09-25-2003, 04:05 AM
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 01:46:28 +0000, James Knott wrote:

> joseph philip wrote:
>
>>> CUPS can use Samba, but it defaults to the Internet Printing Protocol,
>>> which is accessed as a URL, in the same manner as a web page.

>>
>> True. There is some thing you have to do before the protocol selection
>> allows you to select smb.
>>
>> Does this "IPP" have a comparable host on the windows side? What else
>> speaks IPP?
>>

>
> As I mentioned, XP does. W98 doesn't appear to. I'm not sure about Me or
> 2000. I don't recall the details, but it's much the same as creating a
> regular network printer connection. On one page of the settings, you get
> to choose which method to use for connecting to the server.




I understand the CUPS side of things. What I'd like to know is whether
there is some magic involved in getting winxp to listen for it? or is it
fairly normal as going and saying "share printer"? Do you have to hunt for
and install IPP, and then navigate a torturous series of menus/dialogs to
go check the "enable IPP" box?

 
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      09-25-2003, 10:53 AM
joseph philip wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 01:46:28 +0000, James Knott wrote:
>
>> joseph philip wrote:
>>
>>>> CUPS can use Samba, but it defaults to the Internet Printing Protocol,
>>>> which is accessed as a URL, in the same manner as a web page.
>>>
>>> True. There is some thing you have to do before the protocol selection
>>> allows you to select smb.
>>>
>>> Does this "IPP" have a comparable host on the windows side? What else
>>> speaks IPP?
>>>

>>
>> As I mentioned, XP does. W98 doesn't appear to. I'm not sure about Me
>> or
>> 2000. I don't recall the details, but it's much the same as creating a
>> regular network printer connection. On one page of the settings, you get
>> to choose which method to use for connecting to the server.

>
>
>
> I understand the CUPS side of things. What I'd like to know is whether
> there is some magic involved in getting winxp to listen for it? or is it
> fairly normal as going and saying "share printer"? Do you have to hunt for
> and install IPP, and then navigate a torturous series of menus/dialogs to
> go check the "enable IPP" box?
>


As I said in the previous notes, it's in the settings for the printer, when
you create it. No additional software required.

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