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derek
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      07-28-2003, 09:11 PM
Hi, I'm a linux newbie trying to setup a linux box in order to runa
bibliography server for my home network. i've got the computers
connected, but can't share internet between them.

what I've done is connect my windows 2000 computer with a linux
(mandrake 8.2) computer with a crossover cable.

the windows computer has two NICs
eth0 dlink wireless card, set to DHCP, usually 192.168.0.101
eth1 3com ethernet card, set to 10.1.0.1

the linux computer has one NIC
eth0 3com ethernet card, set to 10.1.0.2

both linux and windows can ping each other.

what i'm having trouble with is setting up the network to allow the
linux computer to share the wireless internet connection from the
windows box. from what i've read, this involves setting ip routing on
the windows box, but for the life of me, i can't get the gateways and
subnets to work right in order to accomplish this. any help or anyone
who could point me to specific help useful to newbies would be greatly
appreciated.

derek
 
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James Knott
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      07-28-2003, 09:17 PM
derek wrote:

> what i'm having trouble with is setting up the network to allow the
> linux computer to share the wireless internet connection from the
> windows box. from what i've read, this involves setting ip routing on
> the windows box, but for the life of me, i can't get the gateways and
> subnets to work right in order to accomplish this. any help or anyone
> who could point me to specific help useful to newbies would be greatly
> appreciated.
>


Does W2000 support ICS (Internet Connection Sharing)? If so, it's a simple
matter to set up.

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Ian Northeast
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      07-28-2003, 10:04 PM
James Knott wrote:
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> derek wrote:
>
> > what i'm having trouble with is setting up the network to allow the
> > linux computer to share the wireless internet connection from the
> > windows box. from what i've read, this involves setting ip routing on
> > the windows box, but for the life of me, i can't get the gateways and
> > subnets to work right in order to accomplish this. any help or anyone
> > who could point me to specific help useful to newbies would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> >

>
> Does W2000 support ICS (Internet Connection Sharing)? If so, it's a simple
> matter to set up.


I think it does. Over here in .uk we have a non-OS specific group
uk.comp.home-networking and the number of posts there from people having
trouble setting up ICS suggests that it's not that trivial but this may
just reflect the technical nous of the average Windows user.

AIUI ICS has 192.168.0.0/24 hard wired as the client side network
number, and the OP said his Internet connection was "usually"
192.168.0.101 (you snipped that). This will cause a conflict if neither
side can be changed.

There are alternative NAT implementations for Windows I believe, I have
heard something called Sygate spoken well of.

Once the NAT router is correctly set up on Windows, which is really off
topic here, it should be a simple matter of setting up Linux with a
compatible IP address and netmask, and setting the default route to the
LAN side address of the Windows box.

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      07-31-2003, 11:28 PM
Ian Northeast <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote news:3F259DD8.15CCDF5
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> There are alternative NAT implementations for Windows I believe, I have
> heard something called Sygate spoken well of.
>


WinGate (http://www.wingate.com)and WinRoute (http://www.winroute.com) are
very simple and complete NAT/Proxy softwares for Windows.

However, why don't you invert the process and use the Linux box as you
Internet gateway ?


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      07-31-2003, 11:36 PM
Ingo Pakleppa - ingo at kkeane dot com <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Besides all the suggestions you already got, one easy way to solve this:
> ditch the crossover cable and buy either a wireless/Ethernet bridge
> (either the Linux box, or both computers would plug into that instead of
> using the wireless card on the Windows box), or plug the Linux box right
> into your router.


> At current hardware prices, it is often cheaper to just solve the problem
> with hardware rather than throwing software at it. Plus, such a solution
> would allow avoid having to keep the Windows box running.


i cannot agree more strongly. unless you are hoplessly short of funds,
or stuck out in the boonies, there is no longer _any_ need to futz around
with the lan, just install a cable/dsl router. some of them also have
a dialup connection but i don't know how it is configured within the
router.

of course, w/o a dsl/cable modem, you lose access to the very best
(ie, decent & cheap) offerings. still, the "hardware" solution is
really the way to go, imho, if at all possible. ymmv, --Loren


> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:11:17 -0700, derek wrote:


>> Hi, I'm a linux newbie trying to setup a linux box in order to runa
>> bibliography server for my home network. i've got the computers
>> connected, but can't share internet between them.
>>
>> what I've done is connect my windows 2000 computer with a linux
>> (mandrake 8.2) computer with a crossover cable.
>>
>> the windows computer has two NICs
>> eth0 dlink wireless card, set to DHCP, usually 192.168.0.101 eth1 3com
>> ethernet card, set to 10.1.0.1
>>
>> the linux computer has one NIC
>> eth0 3com ethernet card, set to 10.1.0.2
>>
>> both linux and windows can ping each other.
>>
>> what i'm having trouble with is setting up the network to allow the
>> linux computer to share the wireless internet connection from the
>> windows box. from what i've read, this involves setting ip routing on
>> the windows box, but for the life of me, i can't get the gateways and
>> subnets to work right in order to accomplish this. any help or anyone
>> who could point me to specific help useful to newbies would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> derek


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