Credit Card machine and fax to share line with ADSL

We plan to convert our Business Highway to ADSL as soon as our exchange
is enable (June 16). Currently we use the 2 analogue lines that come
with Highway for a fax (Hewlett Packard G95 all in one), and an Ingenico
TT41 credit card machine thingy.

I've heard that some new faxes may be incompatible with ADSL, and the
bank who rent us the credit card machine say that there may be
communications problems with "digital lines" (though they won't say what
they mean by that).

Q. Can the fax and credit card machine work over our ADSL line? Or
should we rent a second line for analogue devices?
--
John A

John Appleyard wrote:
> We plan to convert our Business Highway to ADSL as soon as our
> exchange is enable (June 16). Currently we use the 2 analogue lines
> that come with Highway for a fax (Hewlett Packard G95 all in one),
> and an Ingenico TT41 credit card machine thingy.
>
> I've heard that some new faxes may be incompatible with ADSL, and the
> bank who rent us the credit card machine say that there may be
> communications problems with "digital lines" (though they won't say
> what they mean by that).
>
> Q. Can the fax and credit card machine work over our ADSL line? Or
> should we rent a second line for analogue devices?

ADSL is an analogue service; your ISDN (Highway) line will be converted to
an analogue line to support ADSL. There should be no problems using a fax or
credit card machine on an ADSL line (except that some filters are not
compatible with certain fax machines).

Dominic

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"John Appleyard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> We plan to convert our Business Highway to ADSL as soon as our exchange
> is enable (June 16). Currently we use the 2 analogue lines that come
> with Highway for a fax (Hewlett Packard G95 all in one), and an Ingenico
> TT41 credit card machine thingy.
>
> I've heard that some new faxes may be incompatible with ADSL, and the
> bank who rent us the credit card machine say that there may be
> communications problems with "digital lines" (though they won't say what
> they mean by that).
>
> Q. Can the fax and credit card machine work over our ADSL line? Or
> should we rent a second line for analogue devices?
> --
> John A

Yes, they will.. just make sure its pluged in to a Microfilter... ADSL
modems normaly come with 2 Micro Filters, but you can ask your isp for more,
normal costs about £6 each.

There is no need to get another phone line installed.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
John Appleyard <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> communications problems with "digital lines" (though they won't say what
> they mean by that).

They mean digital lines on PABXes. Clearly, analogue anythings won't
work on these.

ian

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:12:18 +0100, "Dominic"
<d.foulkes-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>ADSL is an analogue service; your ISDN (Highway) line will be converted to
>an analogue line to support ADSL.

You cannot get ADSL on ISDN lines imn the UK because the ISDN signal
infringes on frequencies used by ADSL (and vice versa). It could be
made to work, but it'd be a bother.

Other countries have DSL running over ISDN lines.

Woof wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:12:18 +0100, "Dominic"
> <d.foulkes-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> ADSL is an analogue service; your ISDN (Highway) line will be
>> converted to an analogue line to support ADSL.
>
> You cannot get ADSL on ISDN lines imn the UK because the ISDN signal
> infringes on frequencies used by ADSL (and vice versa). It could be
> made to work, but it'd be a bother.
>
> Other countries have DSL running over ISDN lines.

Don't tell me, tell the OP.

"Dominic" <d.foulkes-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:40c493e5$0$6334$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> John Appleyard wrote:
> > We plan to convert our Business Highway to ADSL as soon as our
> > exchange is enable (June 16). Currently we use the 2 analogue lines
> > that come with Highway for a fax (Hewlett Packard G95 all in one),
> > and an Ingenico TT41 credit card machine thingy.
> >
> > I've heard that some new faxes may be incompatible with ADSL, and the
> > bank who rent us the credit card machine say that there may be
> > communications problems with "digital lines" (though they won't say
> > what they mean by that).
> >
> > Q. Can the fax and credit card machine work over our ADSL line? Or
> > should we rent a second line for analogue devices?
>
> ADSL is an analogue service; your ISDN (Highway) line will be converted to
> an analogue line to support ADSL. There should be no problems using a fax
or
> credit card machine on an ADSL line (except that some filters are not
> compatible with certain fax machines).

Well, that's not strictly true. What does the 'D' is ADSL stand for if not
digital. It is a digital servcie but co-exists on a standard analogue PSTN
line.

Rob

"Rob Walker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:40c4a93c$0$20518$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Dominic" <d.foulkes-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:40c493e5$0$6334$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> > John Appleyard wrote:
> > > We plan to convert our Business Highway to ADSL as soon as our
> > > exchange is enable (June 16). Currently we use the 2 analogue lines
> > > that come with Highway for a fax (Hewlett Packard G95 all in one),
> > > and an Ingenico TT41 credit card machine thingy.
> > >
> > > I've heard that some new faxes may be incompatible with ADSL, and the
> > > bank who rent us the credit card machine say that there may be
> > > communications problems with "digital lines" (though they won't say
> > > what they mean by that).
> > >
> > > Q. Can the fax and credit card machine work over our ADSL line? Or
> > > should we rent a second line for analogue devices?
> >
> > ADSL is an analogue service; your ISDN (Highway) line will be converted
to
> > an analogue line to support ADSL. There should be no problems using a
fax
> or
> > credit card machine on an ADSL line (except that some filters are not
> > compatible with certain fax machines).
>
> Well, that's not strictly true. What does the 'D' is ADSL stand for if not
> digital. It is a digital servcie but co-exists on a standard analogue PSTN
> line.

It's not strictly true to say that it is digital either. ADSL uses analogue
modulation. There was a lengthy discussion about this not long ago on here,
and it's not really relevant here. The point is that you cannot have ADSL on
an ISDN line without BT first downgrading it back to an analogue phone line.

An ISDN line or variant thereof is what is the merchant bank meant by a
'digital line' in this context.

Dominic

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