Credit card fraud

I recently send an email to a small hotel in France quoting my credit card
details as a deposit. On the same day that I sent these details, there was
a fraudulent transaction on my credit card, billing $19.99 to
Blizzard-Enterprises. The credit card company cannot tell me what time the
fraudulent transaction took place.

Google shows that Blizzard-Enterprises are commonly associated with this
sort of fraud.

Is it likely that the email itself (sent via Demon) was the source of the
fraud?

Does anybody here have any experience of this?

--
Graham J

Graham <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I recently send an email to a small hotel in France quoting my credit card
> details as a deposit. On the same day that I sent these details, there was
> a fraudulent transaction on my credit card, billing $19.99 to
> Blizzard-Enterprises. The credit card company cannot tell me what time the
> fraudulent transaction took place.
>
> Google shows that Blizzard-Enterprises are commonly associated with this
> sort of fraud.
>
> Is it likely that the email itself (sent via Demon) was the source of the
> fraud?
>
> Does anybody here have any experience of this?

No - but I thought everyone knew not to send credit card details via
email.


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Graham wrote:

> I recently send an email to a small hotel in France quoting my credit card
> details as a deposit.

You won't do that again will you ?

Graham

On 19-May-2007, "Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Is it likely that the email itself (sent via Demon) was the source of the
> fraud?

Unlikely that they are monitoring all their users emails 24/7 on the
off chance of getting hold of credit card details.
Could be your PC has a keylogger planted that emails keystrokes,
or possibly a rogue employee at the hotel.
I'm surprised that the credit card companies have not set up
a PayPal, or Google Pay, type of system. Then the payee
never gets to see your card details.

A local restaurant has been skimming cards, also petrol
stations, Heathrow Express machines. You buy a s/h PC
at a commercial effects auction, it's from a firm that's
gone bust, full of credit card details (name, address,
phone number) and verification
numbers. Give your card details to anyone and it's
potentially compromised.
I only buy on line from those who take PayPal, and
don't shop at TKmax.

Hate to say it but your own fault.

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>
> On 19-May-2007, "Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Is it likely that the email itself (sent via Demon) was the source of
the
> > fraud?
>
> Unlikely that they are monitoring all their users emails 24/7 on the
> off chance of getting hold of credit card details.
> Could be your PC has a keylogger planted that emails keystrokes,
> or possibly a rogue employee at the hotel.
> I'm surprised that the credit card companies have not set up
> a PayPal, or Google Pay, type of system. Then the payee
> never gets to see your card details.
>
> A local restaurant has been skimming cards, also petrol
> stations, Heathrow Express machines. You buy a s/h PC
> at a commercial effects auction, it's from a firm that's
> gone bust, full of credit card details (name, address,
> phone number) and verification
> numbers. Give your card details to anyone and it's
> potentially compromised.
> I only buy on line from those who take PayPal, and
> don't shop at TKmax.

i had my credit card info put on a spoof Paypal account 2 months ago - still
not got all the money back......
>
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"Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I recently send an email to a small hotel in France quoting my credit card
>details as a deposit. On the same day that I sent these details, there was
>a fraudulent transaction on my credit card, billing $19.99 to
>Blizzard-Enterprises. The credit card company cannot tell me what time the
>fraudulent transaction took place.
>
> Google shows that Blizzard-Enterprises are commonly associated with this
> sort of fraud.
>
> Is it likely that the email itself (sent via Demon) was the source of the
> fraud?
>
> Does anybody here have any experience of this?


I recently had no choice but to send credit card details to the States. I
took the precaution of putting the details in a Word document which I then
password protected. The password was sent in one email and the Word
document was attached to a second one which was sent a bit later. Not
foolproof but safer than a straight email bearing all.
--
Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)

On 19-May-2007, "stephen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> i had my credit card info put on a spoof Paypal account 2 months ago - still
> not got all the money back......

But your credit card details were compromised first, then used to
create the PayPal account, and presumably an Unverified
PayPal account which has limits until it becomes verified.

Keith Willcocks wrote:

> I recently had no choice but to send credit card details to the States. I
> took the precaution of putting the details in a Word document which I then
> password protected. The password was sent in one email and the Word
> document was attached to a second one which was sent a bit later. Not
> foolproof but safer than a straight email bearing all.

If the recipient has some technical knowhow, GPG is perfect for
transmitting sensitive information. I hooked up Enigmail to my
Thunderbird client and nowadays send all emails signed; sensitive ones
encrypted as well. By defaulting to signed email, there's some
additional protection from impersonation.

The only downside is that most of the PGP keyservers seem to be in a
state of permanent semi-brokenness, so I just link to the public key on
my website.

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Jay L. T. Cornwall, http://www.esuna.co.uk/~jay/
PhD Student
Imperial College London

"Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I recently send an email to a small hotel in France quoting my credit card
>details as a deposit. On the same day that I sent these details, there was
>a fraudulent transaction on my credit card, billing $19.99 to
>Blizzard-Enterprises. The credit card company cannot tell me what time the
>fraudulent transaction took place.
>
> Google shows that Blizzard-Enterprises are commonly associated with this
> sort of fraud.
>
> Is it likely that the email itself (sent via Demon) was the source of the
> fraud?
>
> Does anybody here have any experience of this?

Emails are not encrypted. Anything in an email is sent as clear text and if
anyone is sniffing your packets (Oo'er missus )) your credit card details
are there in plain sight, waiting to be abused.

John