Creating a Belkin Wireless Bridge - Help!

I am trying to create a wireless bridge between two Belkin F5D72314
Routers. One is being used as a Wireless Router, and the other has
been configured to be used as an Access Point. I've entered the WLAN
Address into the Wireless Bridge Page of the Router. I've also made
sure that the SSID's are the same, and both the Access Point and the
Router are on the same channel. For purposes of troubleshooting, I've
turned off all encryption and other security.

I am able to sucessfully Ping the Access Point when it's connected to
the Router via Ethernet Cable. However, when I disconnect the Ethernet
Cable, it loses the connection.

What step am I missing here to complete the Wireless Bridge?

(E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:

>I am trying to create a wireless bridge between two Belkin F5D72314
>Routers. One is being used as a Wireless Router, and the other has
>been configured to be used as an Access Point.

You can't do that. Access points do not normally talk to other access
points. A wireless router is nothing more than a wireless access
point with an ethernet router tacked on. It won't work either.

What will work between routers and access points is WDS (wireless
distribution service). The F5D72314 does support WDS and should work,
especially between identical routers. The Belkin WDS instructions
seem a bit lacking. Although this is for a WRT54G, the configuration
should be similar:
| http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.p...showpage&pid=7
From your description, I suspect you haven't done any configuration on
the WDS page.


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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:
>
> >I am trying to create a wireless bridge between two Belkin F5D72314
> >Routers. One is being used as a Wireless Router, and the other has
> >been configured to be used as an Access Point.
>
> You can't do that. Access points do not normally talk to other access
> points. A wireless router is nothing more than a wireless access
> point with an ethernet router tacked on. It won't work either.
>
> What will work between routers and access points is WDS (wireless
> distribution service). The F5D72314 does support WDS and should work,
> especially between identical routers. The Belkin WDS instructions
> seem a bit lacking. Although this is for a WRT54G, the configuration
> should be similar:
> | http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.p...showpage&pid=7
> From your description, I suspect you haven't done any configuration on
> the WDS page.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Thanks.

This makes absolutely no sense given the fact that Belkin claims it
*will* work. You would think they would know their own products.

I think what you are saying is that I *can* make it work with my
existing equipment, but I can't find the WDS configuration page
anywhere in the Router's settings.

Any idea where it might me?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > (E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:
> >
> > >I am trying to create a wireless bridge between two Belkin F5D72314
> > >Routers. One is being used as a Wireless Router, and the other has
> > >been configured to be used as an Access Point.
> >
> > You can't do that. Access points do not normally talk to other access
> > points. A wireless router is nothing more than a wireless access
> > point with an ethernet router tacked on. It won't work either.
> >
> > What will work between routers and access points is WDS (wireless
> > distribution service). The F5D72314 does support WDS and should work,
> > especially between identical routers. The Belkin WDS instructions
> > seem a bit lacking. Although this is for a WRT54G, the configuration
> > should be similar:
> > | http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.p...showpage&pid=7
> > From your description, I suspect you haven't done any configuration on
> > the WDS page.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> > 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
> Thanks.
>
> This makes absolutely no sense given the fact that Belkin claims it
> *will* work. You would think they would know their own products.
>
> I think what you are saying is that I *can* make it work with my
> existing equipment, but I can't find the WDS configuration page
> anywhere in the Router's settings.
>
> Any idea where it might me?

Further on this - - - I was able to locate this information on the
Wireless Bridge Page and apparently the Router *does* support WDS:

***************

Wireless Bridging or Wireless Distribution System (WDS) is used to
connect Wireless Routers and Access points together to extend a
network.

1) Wireless channels must match between Router and AP.
2) Security settings (WEP) must match between Router and AP.
3) If MAC filtering is enabled, user must be sure to add the WLAN MAC
address(es) of the Router/AP in order to allow communication with each
other.

********************

I've done all this - - - But, I am not able to sucessfully Ping the
Access Point unless it's connected to the Router with an ethernet
cable. As soon as I disconnect the cable, it loses connectivity.
Seems to me like there's a simple tweak that I am missing.

(E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:

>> This makes absolutely no sense given the fact that Belkin claims it
>> *will* work. You would think they would know their own products.

They're wrong. Access points do not talk to access points without
using WDS.

>Further on this - - - I was able to locate this information on the
>Wireless Bridge Page and apparently the Router *does* support WDS:

Yep. That's what the data sheet says.

>I've done all this - - - But, I am not able to sucessfully Ping the
>Access Point unless it's connected to the Router with an ethernet
>cable. As soon as I disconnect the cable, it loses connectivity.
>Seems to me like there's a simple tweak that I am missing.

Did you look at the sample Linksys WRT54G configuration link I posted?
It's not the same for your Belkin, but the general idea is the same.
The usual goof is to configure the wrong MAC address. The wireless
MAC address for a router can be different from the ethernet and WAN
MAC addresses. Dive into the configuration and check your numbers. If
you need additional help, you'll need to post some numbers as to how
you have it configured.

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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:
>
> >> This makes absolutely no sense given the fact that Belkin claims it
> >> *will* work. You would think they would know their own products.
>
> They're wrong. Access points do not talk to access points without
> using WDS.
>
> >Further on this - - - I was able to locate this information on the
> >Wireless Bridge Page and apparently the Router *does* support WDS:
>
> Yep. That's what the data sheet says.
>
> >I've done all this - - - But, I am not able to sucessfully Ping the
> >Access Point unless it's connected to the Router with an ethernet
> >cable. As soon as I disconnect the cable, it loses connectivity.
> >Seems to me like there's a simple tweak that I am missing.
>
> Did you look at the sample Linksys WRT54G configuration link I posted?
> It's not the same for your Belkin, but the general idea is the same.
> The usual goof is to configure the wrong MAC address. The wireless
> MAC address for a router can be different from the ethernet and WAN
> MAC addresses. Dive into the configuration and check your numbers. If
> you need additional help, you'll need to post some numbers as to how
> you have it configured.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Yea - - - I read the Configuration Link you posted, and I reviewed all
of my settings and they look to be correct. Obvsiouly, something is
missing. I'll keep looking and post some config numbers if I get
stuck.

If anybody else has anything to add that might be helpful, I'd
appreciate it!

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > (E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:
> >
> > >> This makes absolutely no sense given the fact that Belkin claims it
> > >> *will* work. You would think they would know their own products.
> >
> > They're wrong. Access points do not talk to access points without
> > using WDS.
> >
> > >Further on this - - - I was able to locate this information on the
> > >Wireless Bridge Page and apparently the Router *does* support WDS:
> >
> > Yep. That's what the data sheet says.
> >
> > >I've done all this - - - But, I am not able to sucessfully Ping the
> > >Access Point unless it's connected to the Router with an ethernet
> > >cable. As soon as I disconnect the cable, it loses connectivity.
> > >Seems to me like there's a simple tweak that I am missing.
> >
> > Did you look at the sample Linksys WRT54G configuration link I posted?
> > It's not the same for your Belkin, but the general idea is the same.
> > The usual goof is to configure the wrong MAC address. The wireless
> > MAC address for a router can be different from the ethernet and WAN
> > MAC addresses. Dive into the configuration and check your numbers. If
> > you need additional help, you'll need to post some numbers as to how
> > you have it configured.
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> > 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
> Yea - - - I read the Configuration Link you posted, and I reviewed all
> of my settings and they look to be correct. Obvsiouly, something is
> missing. I'll keep looking and post some config numbers if I get
> stuck.
>
> If anybody else has anything to add that might be helpful, I'd
> appreciate it!


Further on this . . .

I was able to update the Firmware, and now the Wireless Bridge works
great.

Thanks for everybody's help.