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al
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      03-16-2007, 06:50 PM
Hi
CPW are moving my BB connection to LLU next week, I currently get
512Kb -any idea what speed I should expect after the change?
TIA for any responses.
Al

Router stats are as follows -from a Netgear router.
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 576 kbps 288 kbps
Line Attenuation 46 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 29 db 25 db

 
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Mark Carver
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      03-16-2007, 06:56 PM
al wrote:
> Hi
> CPW are moving my BB connection to LLU next week, I currently get
> 512Kb -any idea what speed I should expect after the change?
> TIA for any responses.
> Al
>
> Router stats are as follows -from a Netgear router.
> ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
> Connection Speed 576 kbps 288 kbps
> Line Attenuation 46 db 15.5 db
> Noise Margin 29 db 25 db
>


In theory you could get 2272 kb/s downstream (2 Meg) at a Noise Margin of 7dB
(double the data rate, and you chop 6dB off the Noise Margin). Upstream might
end up at 448 kb/s ish.

But if it involves those clowns at CPW, be prepared for your phone line to go
dead for a couple of weeks.


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      03-16-2007, 07:23 PM
On Mar 16, 7:56 pm, Mark Carver <mark.car...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> al wrote:
> > Hi
> > CPW are moving my BB connection to LLU next week, I currently get
> > 512Kb -any idea what speed I should expect after the change?
> > TIA for any responses.
> > Al

>
> > Router stats are as follows -from a Netgear router.
> > ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
> > Connection Speed 576 kbps 288 kbps
> > Line Attenuation 46 db 15.5 db
> > Noise Margin 29 db 25 db

>
> In theory you could get 2272 kb/s downstream (2 Meg) at a Noise Margin of 7dB
> (double the data rate, and you chop 6dB off the Noise Margin). Upstream might
> end up at 448 kb/s ish.
>
> But if it involves those clowns at CPW, be prepared for your phone line to go
> dead for a couple of weeks.
>
> --
> Mark
> Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.


Thanks for the reply Mark
According to CPW letter BB will be off for 20 minutes, incoming calls
upto 4 hours and outgoing calls 20 minutes -time will tell.
Samknows.com says that no exchanges are enabled yet so maybe this is
the first and they will be keen to get it working (I want to beleive
this).
Thanks
AL

 
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      03-16-2007, 10:28 PM


al wrote:

> CPW are moving my BB connection to LLU next week, I currently get
> 512Kb -any idea what speed I should expect after the change?


LLU has nothing to do with it (except of those ISPs offering ADSL2).

Graham

 
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      03-17-2007, 10:18 AM
On Mar 16, 11:28 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
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> LLU has nothing to do with it (except of those ISPs offering ADSL2).


it does in the case of TalkTalk who provide fixed speed 512k/1M/2M
outside their LLU area, so getting LLU is the only way Talk Talk users
actually get the promised "up to 8M" "free" broadband.

Phil

 
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      03-17-2007, 10:23 AM


PhilT wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > LLU has nothing to do with it (except of those ISPs offering ADSL2).

>
> it does in the case of TalkTalk who provide fixed speed 512k/1M/2M
> outside their LLU area, so getting LLU is the only way Talk Talk users
> actually get the promised "up to 8M" "free" broadband.


That's a marketing, not a technical issue.

Graham

 
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      03-17-2007, 12:33 PM
On Mar 17, 11:23 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> PhilT wrote:
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > LLU has nothing to do with it (except of those ISPs offering ADSL2).

>
> > it does in the case of TalkTalk who provide fixed speed 512k/1M/2M
> > outside their LLU area, so getting LLU is the only way Talk Talk users
> > actually get the promised "up to 8M" "free" broadband.

>
> That's a marketing, not a technical issue.


sales, actually, but it does have something to do with whether a
change to LLU affects the end users connection - it certainly will
with talk talk, and it may even work !

Phil

 
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      03-17-2007, 12:44 PM
On Mar 17, 1:33 pm, "PhilT" <news...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 17, 11:23 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > PhilT wrote:
> > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > LLU has nothing to do with it (except of those ISPs offering ADSL2).

>
> > > it does in the case of TalkTalk who provide fixed speed 512k/1M/2M
> > > outside their LLU area, so getting LLU is the only way Talk Talk users
> > > actually get the promised "up to 8M" "free" broadband.

>
> > That's a marketing, not a technical issue.

>
> sales, actually, but it does have something to do with whether a
> change to LLU affects the end users connection - it certainly will
> with talk talk, and it may even work !
>
> Phil


Pipex then BT could not offer me more than 512Kb, so I'm hoping LLU
will give me some increase (I've been signed up with CPW for 11 months
waiting for this).
Al

 
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      03-17-2007, 02:05 PM


al wrote:

> Pipex then BT could not offer me more than 512Kb


On precisely what basis ?

Graham

 
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      03-17-2007, 04:53 PM
On Mar 17, 3:05 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
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> al wrote:
> > Pipex then BT could not offer me more than 512Kb

>
> On precisely what basis ?
>
> Graham


Hi
Using the telephone number checker, the house across the road always
shows higher speeds available (but has no BB). Its definitely on the
same exchange as we are on the edge of Hamilton and only countryside
beyond when installed -approx 3.5km from exchange.
I had to get BT to fix a noisy line (in days of dial-up) -they changed
the pair used at the house -it cleared the noise but I think I must be
marked as having suspect line -ot something. So i'm hoping LLU and the
noise margins will allow a speed increase (it will cost me nothing to
be wrong).
Al

 
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