COVAD DSL and Wireless

One of my associates is thinking about getting COVAD DSL. For some reason
he does not qualify for Verizon DSL but can get Covad. I notice that on
Covad's website that they insist you use their routers. After his DSL in
installed can I just go over there and install a wireless network with my
extra Linksys WRT54G, or do I have to spring for the extra $$ for Covad's
wireless router?

BudMan wrote:

>One of my associates is thinking about getting COVAD DSL. For some reason
>he does not qualify for Verizon DSL but can get Covad. I notice that on
>Covad's website that they insist you use their routers. After his DSL in
>installed can I just go over there and install a wireless network with my
>extra Linksys WRT54G, or do I have to spring for the extra $$ for Covad's
>wireless router?
>
>
>
>
I would question why an ISP would want to specify my network's internal
structure. Particularly, why my router and why only from the ISP?

I would even question specifying a modem, but at least that can't
compromise your network.

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In <HpX4f.35762$(E-Mail Removed)> on Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:35:30
-0500, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>BudMan wrote:
>
>>One of my associates is thinking about getting COVAD DSL. For some reason
>>he does not qualify for Verizon DSL but can get Covad. I notice that on
>>Covad's website that they insist you use their routers. After his DSL in
>>installed can I just go over there and install a wireless network with my
>>extra Linksys WRT54G, or do I have to spring for the extra $$ for Covad's
>>wireless router?
>>
>I would question why an ISP would want to specify my network's internal
>structure. Particularly, why my router and why only from the ISP?
>
>I would even question specifying a modem, but at least that can't
>compromise your network.

At least one issue is support -- it's at best expensive and difficult for an
ISP to support customers on every possible router.

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>In <HpX4f.35762$(E-Mail Removed)> on Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:35:30
>-0500, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>
>>BudMan wrote:
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>>>One of my associates is thinking about getting COVAD DSL. For some reason
>>>he does not qualify for Verizon DSL but can get Covad. I notice that on
>>>Covad's website that they insist you use their routers. After his DSL in
>>>installed can I just go over there and install a wireless network with my
>>>extra Linksys WRT54G, or do I have to spring for the extra $$ for Covad's
>>>wireless router?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I would question why an ISP would want to specify my network's internal
>>structure. Particularly, why my router and why only from the ISP?
>>
>>I would even question specifying a modem, but at least that can't
>>compromise your network.
>>
>>
>
>At least one issue is support -- it's at best expensive and difficult for an
>ISP to support customers on every possible router.
>
>
>
Why would anyone expect an ISP to support their internal network? The
only reason I would call my ISP is to deteremine if their network is
down. For example, to determine if the problem is a bad modem or if the
equipment servicing my area was down for maintenance, etc.

Besides, one of the first things support will require is that you shut
down your network and attach the modem directly to a computer.

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:04:13 -0400, "BudMan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>One of my associates is thinking about getting COVAD DSL. For some reason
>he does not qualify for Verizon DSL but can get Covad.

Some central offices have Covad DSL termination equipment but not SBC
or Vrizon DSL termination equipment. There are also potential
differences in the type of DSL. Covad usually uses SDSL while Verizon
and SBC use ADSL. That's because SDSL uses a dedicated line, with no
POTS (plain old telephone service) while ADSL allows sharing the line
with POTS. However, most of the current offerings as ADSL. I
strongly suggest your associate investigate exactly what he's getting.

>I notice that on
>Covad's website that they insist you use their routers.

Which service? Covad offers 4 "types" of DSL service with 3 different
speed levels. Although I found that they require an "approved"
router, I could find no list of approved equipment. There's a list of
approved T1 routers but nothing for the DSL. I think your associate
had better call Covad and ask what they really want. Where on the
Covad web pile does it insist you purchase their equipment? What
little I could find shows that they simply require that it be approved
by Covad. URL please?

>After his DSL in
>installed can I just go over there and install a wireless network with my
>extra Linksys WRT54G, or do I have to spring for the extra $$ for Covad's
>wireless router?

If you purchase an approved router (no wireless) you can add an
"access point" to the existing configuration without Covad involvment.
An access point can also be a "wireless router" by simply ignoring the
router sections. A WRT54G will work just fine as an access point.

I recommend purchasing only an approved ADSL/SDSL modem from Covad or
other sources (eBay) depending on the "type" of service. Then, you
just add the WRT54G and use it as a "wireless router".

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> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:04:13 -0400, "BudMan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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> >One of my associates is thinking about getting COVAD DSL. For some
reason

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> >I notice that on
> >Covad's website that they insist you use their routers.
>
> Which service? Covad offers 4 "types" of DSL service with 3 different
> speed levels. Although I found that they require an "approved"
> router, I could find no list of approved equipment. There's a list of
> approved T1 routers but nothing for the DSL. I think your associate
> had better call Covad and ask what they really want. Where on the
> Covad web pile does it insist you purchase their equipment? What
> little I could find shows that they simply require that it be approved
> by Covad. URL please?

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I have Covad and I never bought a router/bridge from them. They sell both
ADSL and SDSL service and as long as you have a router that can terminate
ADSL or SDSL via ATM *AND* provide ppp authentication into their system over
ATM, you're good to go.
They do not *make* you get the wireless router though, that's an upgrade on
the order.
Below right off of the website:
http://dsl.covad.com/products/dsl/re...us/index.shtml

$39.95/mo.
with 1 yr contract
Standard bridge: $99
Self installation: $0

Select from these options:
Standard router: $149*
Wireless gateway: $159*
Wireless gateway & adapter: $179*
Professional installation: $99
* instead of $99 Std bridge



Did they tell you different?

Scotty