Constantly low signal despite range of less than 30ft

I have a wireless network at home. The router is on the middle floor
and so is in the middle of all of the needed clients, with the most
distant computer being only about 30 or 40 ft away. The network always
appears to be slow (even for computerrs only 20ft away). All of the
hardware is belkin (which might help) and today i decided to get a new
belkin ADSL router since the other one was old and i thought that might
have been the problem.
However, now i have set it up and there has been no difference (it may
have even dropped in signal). I have tried changing the channel and
repositioning the router, and adjusting the direction of the antennas.

Can anyone think of anything i could try to fix this

hi,

Can u plz explai ur Network setup with ur details of all equipments..



i...@peckhamvision.or wg wrote:
> I have a wireless network at home. The router is on the middle floor
> and so is in the middle of all of the needed clients, with the most
> distant computer being only about 30 or 40 ft away. The network always
> appears to be slow (even for computerrs only 20ft away). All of the
> hardware is belkin (which might help) and today i decided to get a new
> belkin ADSL router since the other one was old and i thought that might
> have been the problem.
> However, now i have set it up and there has been no difference (it may
> have even dropped in signal). I have tried changing the channel and
> repositioning the router, and adjusting the direction of the antennas.
>
> Can anyone think of anything i could try to fix this

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:10:40 -0800, prashant wrote:

> Can u plz explai ur Network setup with ur details of all equipments..

and for those who read and speak English:

Can you please explain your network setup with the details of all of your
equipment?

honest to god...fscking kids! Learn to spell. It isn't hard.

mr.b wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:10:40 -0800, prashant wrote:
>
>> Can u plz explai ur Network setup with ur details of all equipments..
>
> and for those who read and speak English:
>
> Can you please explain your network setup with the details of all of your
> equipment?
>
> honest to god...fscking kids! Learn to spell. It isn't hard.

PlayStations don't have full keyboard.

Right, this is what i have:

Router (New from yesterday) - Belkin F5D9630-4 G+ MIMO Wireless ADSL
Router
3 Wireless Desktops with belkin 54g cards ( i am not certain of all of
the models but i think most of them are )
1 Media Center PC with 54g card (not sure which make card it is)
Belkin 54g Print Server - F1UP0001
Belkin 54g Wireless game router (for xbox 360) - F5D7330
1 laptop with built in 54g card

Occasionally there is a computer hardwired into the router but usually
not. The router is on the middle floor so that no computer is more than
about 30-40ft away, but would be ideal to have it on the ground floor
in the study so as it is always hardwired.
At the moment i have removed all security and MAC address filtering to
try and help me fix it.

Also the router has difficulty connecting a laptop which is only 15ft
away direct line-of-site.
I think i might take the router back to pc world and either replace it
or get another model.
Does anyone know if this model has been known to have problems and if
any routers are particularly good.

Thank you

Oh sorry, i was logged in as the wrong person when i started this
thread - so now this is me. sorry for any confusion.
chris_huh wrote:
> Right, this is what i have:
>
> Router (New from yesterday) - Belkin F5D9630-4 G+ MIMO Wireless ADSL
> Router
> 3 Wireless Desktops with belkin 54g cards ( i am not certain of all of
> the models but i think most of them are )
> 1 Media Center PC with 54g card (not sure which make card it is)
> Belkin 54g Print Server - F1UP0001
> Belkin 54g Wireless game router (for xbox 360) - F5D7330
> 1 laptop with built in 54g card
>
> Occasionally there is a computer hardwired into the router but usually
> not. The router is on the middle floor so that no computer is more than
> about 30-40ft away, but would be ideal to have it on the ground floor
> in the study so as it is always hardwired.
> At the moment i have removed all security and MAC address filtering to
> try and help me fix it.
>
> Also the router has difficulty connecting a laptop which is only 15ft
> away direct line-of-site.
> I think i might take the router back to pc world and either replace it
> or get another model.
> Does anyone know if this model has been known to have problems and if
> any routers are particularly good.
>
> Thank you

> At the moment i have removed all security and MAC address filtering to
> try and help me fix it.

> Also the router has difficulty connecting a laptop which is only 15ft
> away direct line-of-site.


Still got the router? Assuming that you keep security and MAC filter
off for testing, the laptop with built-in wireless might be the easiest
to start with.

So, watching the connection utility, exactly what happens when you
start it up right next to the router? And then, as you say, 15 feet
away?

"Difficulty connecting" means that the laptop can "see" the signal fine
but it takes a long time to get an address assigned? Or....what?

If it were me, I'd probably download "netstumbler' and check the signal
strength from various locations to see how that is. It is great for
giving you an idea of the signal strength and distribution. If
strong enough in a given area (-75 or better) then I would close
netstumbler and watch as Windows zero config (assuming that is what you
have) sees the signal (2 or more bars?) and connects. It should
connect and have an address within a minute or so. I have some cards
that take nearly two minutes to connect but are then fine.

If the laptop's utility is handling the connection instead of Windows
(assuming WinXP) then I would turn it off and use Windows utility to
eliminate that variable.

What happens now? What is the order of events that you see ?

Next comes going into the router's setup and checking settings. Next
comes checking online to see if the firmware needs to be updated.

And the old router? How does it test out when you swap it back in?

Cheers,
Steve

(Light bulb comes on).....INTERFERENCE !!

Not experienced it myself, but that might be it if it's a problem so
close and with two different routers.
What is it they say? Cordless phones (turn it off, OFF to check) um,
somebody else will have more to say on this...

Steve

Thanks for all your replies. In the end i think the router must have
just been a dud one. I've had that before when the aerial inside wasnt
even connected.
I took the router back and got a much more fancy one - a Netgear
Rangemax Next thingy. which is bloody brilliant compared to all the
others i;ve had, doesnt even seem to drop a signal 40ft away through
thick old victorian walls. So thumbs up for that.

I did, with the old one, try changing the channel from 11 to 6 and that
made quite a bit of difference, i think i had some interference from
microwaves and phones etc.

thanks again

chris_huh wrote:
> Thanks for all your replies. In the end i think the router must have
> just been a dud one. I've had that before when the aerial inside wasnt
> even connected.
> I took the router back and got a much more fancy one - a Netgear
> Rangemax Next thingy. which is bloody brilliant compared to all the
> others i;ve had, doesnt even seem to drop a signal 40ft away through
> thick old victorian walls. So thumbs up for that.
>
> I did, with the old one, try changing the channel from 11 to 6 and that
> made quite a bit of difference, i think i had some interference from
> microwaves and phones etc.
>
> thanks again


Yep, sounds like it was a two part problem: interference and a bad
replacement router.
Just for the record, I doubt you needed the "Netgear Rangemax Next
thingy". Advice probably would have been to hold off until the new
"N" standard is realized and just use the old one after chasing down
the interference.

But it works and that counts for a lot.

I wonder how much the "Netgear Rangemax" actually does when your
clients are all Belkin "G". With many of the new mimos, they say that
you need matching complementary equipment on the other end to realize
the improvement.

Steve