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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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Under such an arrangement you need a second Routing. I.e. You host computer needs to use ICS to Route to your computers. http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm Actually the best way to set such a system is to get a Wireless card that work for Game Boxes. Those are actually Wireless cards with hardware drivers ( http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html ). You can plug one of this cards to your Linksys WAN port and configure a normal Network around your Wireless Router. See the core principle here, http://www.ezlan.net/http://www.ezlan.net/shield.html Jack (MVP-Networking). "Concerned user" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:ABDA8C0F-B650-4F30-81B1-(E-Mail Removed)... > Ok I have a bit of a problem here. I have three computers that are > conntecting to the internet via a wireless adapater. A friend of mines is > letting me use his wireless signal from his router (linksys WRT54GX2 ) to > access the internet using wep. Now on one of my computers > (machine1/Desktop) > there is a linksys wireless - b usb adapter (WUSB11) . Im using this to > capture the wireless signal. Machine 1 is also conntected to a Linksys 4 > port > switch Wireless router (BEFW11S4) which has no internet access. > > Connected to the 4 port switch (BEFW11S4) also is another desktop > (Machine2) > and a laptop (Machine3) via wireless b connection using wep (I know i > should > use wpa working on getting the laptops wireless card to reconize it. ) > > I used XP and bridged Machine 1 wireless connection, lan connection, and > the > 1394 connection. Once I did that All the computers could get on the net. > This > is basicly how it's setup. > > Friends Router(Cable Internet access WRT54GX2) -> Wireless Signal goes to > the linksys usb adapter (Machine 1) -> Signal goes to my linksys 4 port > switch -> machine 2 and 3 has net access. > > Ok now when i try and go to the normal router address 192.168.1.1 via > windows explorer or IE7 sometimes I get my 4 port switch and sometimes I > get > my friends router. If I get mines I have no internet access but my local > network is up and running fine. If I get my friends router then there is > no > local network but I can get on the internet. It changes all the time. One > moment all the computers are on the internet and have no local network. > Then > they're not on the internet and everyone can see/share files on the > network. > > Is there a way to I can keep on the internet and still see the network > resources ? > > If you could help me solve this problem then you would really take me out > of > a bind seeing as this is the only way i can get net for now. > > Here are the ipconfig /all for each machine > > Machine 1 : > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : machine1 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > Ethernet adapter Network Bridge: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : A2-E9-07-93-6B-5C > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.103 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 > 10:50:53 A > M > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 > 10:50:53 > > > Machine 2 : > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : machine2 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet > Adapter > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-09-AB-12-F1 > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 > 10:50:29 A > M > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 > 10:50:29 > AM > > > Machine 3 : > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Machine3 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network > Connecti > on > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-B8-67-C7-1A > > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR MA521 802.11b Wireless > PC Ca > rd > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-09-5B-BC-54-E1 > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.106 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 > 3:21:33 PM > > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, February 12, 2007 > 3:21:33 PM > > > Thank you so much in advanced. > |
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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Sorry, mistake, the last link in my post above should be, http://www.ezlan.net/shield.html Jack (MVP-Networking). "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > Hi > Under such an arrangement you need a second Routing. > I.e. You host computer needs to use ICS to Route to your computers. > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm > Actually the best way to set such a system is to get a Wireless card that > work for Game Boxes. > Those are actually Wireless cards with hardware drivers ( > http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html ). > You can plug one of this cards to your Linksys WAN port and configure a > normal Network around your Wireless Router. > See the core principle here, > http://www.ezlan.net/http://www.ezlan.net/shield.html > Jack (MVP-Networking). > > "Concerned user" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in > message news:ABDA8C0F-B650-4F30-81B1-(E-Mail Removed)... >> Ok I have a bit of a problem here. I have three computers that are >> conntecting to the internet via a wireless adapater. A friend of mines is >> letting me use his wireless signal from his router (linksys WRT54GX2 ) to >> access the internet using wep. Now on one of my computers >> (machine1/Desktop) >> there is a linksys wireless - b usb adapter (WUSB11) . Im using this to >> capture the wireless signal. Machine 1 is also conntected to a Linksys 4 >> port >> switch Wireless router (BEFW11S4) which has no internet access. >> >> Connected to the 4 port switch (BEFW11S4) also is another desktop >> (Machine2) >> and a laptop (Machine3) via wireless b connection using wep (I know i >> should >> use wpa working on getting the laptops wireless card to reconize it. ) >> >> I used XP and bridged Machine 1 wireless connection, lan connection, and >> the >> 1394 connection. Once I did that All the computers could get on the net. >> This >> is basicly how it's setup. >> >> Friends Router(Cable Internet access WRT54GX2) -> Wireless Signal goes to >> the linksys usb adapter (Machine 1) -> Signal goes to my linksys 4 port >> switch -> machine 2 and 3 has net access. >> >> Ok now when i try and go to the normal router address 192.168.1.1 via >> windows explorer or IE7 sometimes I get my 4 port switch and sometimes I >> get >> my friends router. If I get mines I have no internet access but my local >> network is up and running fine. If I get my friends router then there is >> no >> local network but I can get on the internet. It changes all the time. One >> moment all the computers are on the internet and have no local network. >> Then >> they're not on the internet and everyone can see/share files on the >> network. >> >> Is there a way to I can keep on the internet and still see the network >> resources ? >> >> If you could help me solve this problem then you would really take me out >> of >> a bind seeing as this is the only way i can get net for now. >> >> Here are the ipconfig /all for each machine >> >> Machine 1 : >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : machine1 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> >> Ethernet adapter Network Bridge: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : A2-E9-07-93-6B-5C >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.103 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 >> 167.206.3.136 >> 167.206.3.248 >> 167.206.3.136 >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 >> 10:50:53 A >> M >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 >> 10:50:53 >> >> >> Machine 2 : >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : machine2 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet >> Adapter >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-09-AB-12-F1 >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 >> 167.206.3.136 >> 167.206.3.248 >> 167.206.3.136 >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 >> 10:50:29 A >> M >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 >> 10:50:29 >> AM >> >> >> Machine 3 : >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Machine3 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network >> Connecti >> on >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-B8-67-C7-1A >> >> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR MA521 802.11b Wireless >> PC Ca >> rd >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-09-5B-BC-54-E1 >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.106 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 >> 167.206.3.136 >> 167.206.3.248 >> 167.206.3.136 >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 >> 3:21:33 PM >> >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, February 12, 2007 >> 3:21:33 PM >> >> >> Thank you so much in advanced. >> > > |
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Lem
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> Ok I have a bit of a problem here. I have three computers that are > conntecting to the internet via a wireless adapater. A friend of mines is > letting me use his wireless signal from his router (linksys WRT54GX2 ) to > access the internet using wep. Now on one of my computers (machine1/Desktop) > there is a linksys wireless - b usb adapter (WUSB11) . Im using this to > capture the wireless signal. Machine 1 is also conntected to a Linksys 4 port > switch Wireless router (BEFW11S4) which has no internet access. > > Connected to the 4 port switch (BEFW11S4) also is another desktop (Machine2) > and a laptop (Machine3) via wireless b connection using wep (I know i should > use wpa working on getting the laptops wireless card to reconize it. ) > > I used XP and bridged Machine 1 wireless connection, lan connection, and the > 1394 connection. Once I did that All the computers could get on the net. This > is basicly how it's setup. > > Friends Router(Cable Internet access WRT54GX2) -> Wireless Signal goes to > the linksys usb adapter (Machine 1) -> Signal goes to my linksys 4 port > switch -> machine 2 and 3 has net access. > > Ok now when i try and go to the normal router address 192.168.1.1 via > windows explorer or IE7 sometimes I get my 4 port switch and sometimes I get > my friends router. If I get mines I have no internet access but my local > network is up and running fine. If I get my friends router then there is no > local network but I can get on the internet. It changes all the time. One > moment all the computers are on the internet and have no local network. Then > they're not on the internet and everyone can see/share files on the network. > > Is there a way to I can keep on the internet and still see the network > resources ? > > If you could help me solve this problem then you would really take me out of > a bind seeing as this is the only way i can get net for now. > > Here are the ipconfig /all for each machine > > Machine 1 : > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : machine1 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > Ethernet adapter Network Bridge: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : A2-E9-07-93-6B-5C > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.103 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 > 10:50:53 A > M > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 > 10:50:53 > > > Machine 2 : > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : machine2 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-09-AB-12-F1 > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 > 10:50:29 A > M > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 > 10:50:29 > AM > > > Machine 3 : > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Machine3 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network > Connecti > on > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-B8-67-C7-1A > > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR MA521 802.11b Wireless > PC Ca > rd > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-09-5B-BC-54-E1 > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.106 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > 167.206.3.248 > 167.206.3.136 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, February 11, 2007 > 3:21:33 PM > > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, February 12, 2007 > 3:21:33 PM > > > Thank you so much in advanced. > Can you spell "kluge"? You have some old equipment, connected in a non-standard way. Which is not to say that it won't work, but it might take a little doing. Congratulations on making it work as much as it does. First of all, using your WUSB11 on your friend's wireless g network may (or may not) degrade the performance of his network. In the early days of using 802.11g (2 or 3 years ago!) the routers didn't work so well in mixed (b & g) mode. I assume that this has been dealt with, especially with a device as new as the WRT54GX2 (but you certainly won't get the "SRX" speed advantage). Second, as to the encryption on your wireless LAN, you may have to update the firmware for the BEFW11S4 and the driver(s) for the wireless adapters on machines 1 and 3 in order to support WPA. There are several different versions of this router; make sure you get the correct firmware. There are at least 6 different versions of the WUSB11; I don't know which -- if any -- of them support WPA. Similarly, I don't know if the Netgear MA521 attached to machine 3 can support WPA. Third, I'm not sure why you included the IEEE 1394 connection in your bridge, but it shouldn't hurt. Now on to your problem(s). How have you connected machine 1 to the BEFW1154? It should be connected to one of the 4 LAN ports, and not to the WAN port of the router. There are at least two devices with the same IP on the same network. Both your friend's WRT54GX2 and your BEFW11S4 have the address 192.168.1.1. This is Not Good. Disconnect your WUSB11 (so you know that you can only connect to your own router), and enter the configuration pages for the BEFW11S4 and change its LAN IP address to something else in the same subnet, such as 192.168.1.25. You also need to disable the DHCP server on your BEFW11S4, so that it acts as an access point (wireless switch). By having the DHCP server on your BEFW11S4 active, you are probably causing other difficulties for your friend. Machine 1 is getting its IP address from your friend's router. The fact that it assigned an address of 192.168.1.103 suggests that your friend may have up to 3 computers of his own on the network (100, 101, and 102). It's of course not clear, but it's likely that in the info you posted, machine 2 is getting its IP address from your own router. Thus, in addition to having two 192.168.1.1 devices (the two routers), the network also probably has two 192.168.1.100 devices. This also is Not Good. While you're in the BEFW11S4 configuration utility changing its LAN IP, also disable its DHCP server. And while you're there, also make sure that you have set the BEFW11S4 to use a different SSID and a different wireless channel than your friend's WRT54GX2. What all of this does -- if it works -- is to place your 3 computers and however many computers your friend has on the same LAN. That means he can share your files and vice versa. If you'd rather not do that, then forget the bridge and use ICS. To use ICS on machine 1, delete the bridge you created and set up Internet Connection Sharing instead: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126 There is one catch here: ICS unchangeably assigns an IP address of 192.168.0.1 to the network adapter on the LAN side (i.e., the network adapter in machine 1). In order for the BEFW11S4 to communicate with machine 1, you will have to change its LAN IP address to something on the same subnet: use 192.168.0.2. Machines 2 and 3 will now get their IP addresses from the DHCP Allocator component of ICS. They will be of the form 192.168.0.x (rather than 192.168.1.x as they are now). Good luck. |
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Thank you sooooooooo much. You are a God/Godess. It works just fine no
probelms at all. To answer a few of your questions, Yes he has 2 machines a desktop and a laptop both with xp pro. Yes I know I am working with ancient stuff here. Its all I got at my dispoles right now. Working on upgrading trust me. Now I'm gonna go take this time and go game uninteruputed all thanx to you lem. If anything pops up I know where a friendly place is. "Lem" wrote: |
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Lem
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> Thank you sooooooooo much. You are a God/Godess. It works just fine no > probelms at all. > > To answer a few of your questions, Yes he has 2 machines a desktop and a > laptop both with xp pro. Yes I know I am working with ancient stuff here. Its > all I got at my dispoles right now. Working on upgrading trust me. > > Now I'm gonna go take this time and go game uninteruputed all thanx to you > lem. If anything pops up I know where a friendly place is. > > "Lem" wrote: > > Glad to help. |
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