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Gavalin
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      11-10-2008, 06:18 PM
I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the new
one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all of
the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista machine.
However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the Windows 2000
machine.

All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP and
Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects via
Ethernet cable.

What do you think the problem is?

 
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Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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      11-10-2008, 07:14 PM
Can other computers ping windows 2000 by IP? If yes, this is name resolution
issue.

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"Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
> files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the
> new
> one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all of
> the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista machine.
> However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the Windows
> 2000
> machine.
>
> All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP and
> Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects
> via
> Ethernet cable.
>
> What do you think the problem is?
>


 
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JohnB
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      11-10-2008, 07:22 PM
By "see" I assume you mean browse shares? And not ping by host name? Two
different things.

You don't mention a Domain, so I assume this is a Workgroup. Are all
computers a member of the same Workgroup?

If you can't browse them by computer name, can you browse them by IP
address?



"Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
> files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the
> new
> one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all of
> the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista machine.
> However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the Windows
> 2000
> machine.
>
> All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP and
> Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects
> via
> Ethernet cable.
>
> What do you think the problem is?
>



 
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Gavalin
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      11-10-2008, 08:09 PM
NO GO. I can ping all of the machines from the WIN2K system and I can ping
the XP and Vista machines from the XP machines (and vice versa). Hover I can
not ping the WIN2K machine from any of the others.


"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

> Can other computers ping windows 2000 by IP? If yes, this is name resolution
> issue.
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
> > files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the
> > new
> > one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all of
> > the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista machine.
> > However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the Windows
> > 2000
> > machine.
> >
> > All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP and
> > Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects
> > via
> > Ethernet cable.
> >
> > What do you think the problem is?
> >

>
>

 
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Gavalin
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      11-10-2008, 08:12 PM
John,

Correct. I can browse the shares on the XP and Vista machines from any
other machine. I can also browse any of the machines from the WIN2K machine.
However, the WIN2K machine does not even show up on any of the XP and/or
Vista systems.

Again correct. This is in a home network workgroup.


"JohnB" wrote:

> By "see" I assume you mean browse shares? And not ping by host name? Two
> different things.
>
> You don't mention a Domain, so I assume this is a Workgroup. Are all
> computers a member of the same Workgroup?
>
> If you can't browse them by computer name, can you browse them by IP
> address?
>
>
>
> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
> > files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the
> > new
> > one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all of
> > the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista machine.
> > However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the Windows
> > 2000
> > machine.
> >
> > All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP and
> > Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects
> > via
> > Ethernet cable.
> >
> > What do you think the problem is?
> >

>
>
>

 
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JohnB
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      11-10-2008, 08:27 PM
Robert asked about pinging by IP. Is that what you're saying? That you
cannot ping the WIN2K machine from any of the others, by IP?




"Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:C026232C-CD25-403F-9B17-(E-Mail Removed)...
> NO GO. I can ping all of the machines from the WIN2K system and I can
> ping
> the XP and Vista machines from the XP machines (and vice versa). Hover I
> can
> not ping the WIN2K machine from any of the others.
>
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Can other computers ping windows 2000 by IP? If yes, this is name
>> resolution
>> issue.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
>> > files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the
>> > new
>> > one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all
>> > of
>> > the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista
>> > machine.
>> > However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the
>> > Windows
>> > 2000
>> > machine.
>> >
>> > All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP
>> > and
>> > Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects
>> > via
>> > Ethernet cable.
>> >
>> > What do you think the problem is?
>> >

>>
>>



 
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JohnB
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      11-10-2008, 08:33 PM
Just to keep this from getting too confusing, based on your answer to
Robert.... please answer these questions:

Can you ping by host AND IP from each PC to the others?

Are all machines getting their IP from the router?

You said they're all part of a Workgroup. Have you verified that all
computers belong to the same Workgroup?

Can the other machines browse the Win2k machine if you use it's IP address
instead of it's computer name?






"Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsC0D6FF5-D213-4755-8CC7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> John,
>
> Correct. I can browse the shares on the XP and Vista machines from any
> other machine. I can also browse any of the machines from the WIN2K
> machine.
> However, the WIN2K machine does not even show up on any of the XP and/or
> Vista systems.
>
> Again correct. This is in a home network workgroup.
>
>
> "JohnB" wrote:
>
>> By "see" I assume you mean browse shares? And not ping by host name?
>> Two
>> different things.
>>
>> You don't mention a Domain, so I assume this is a Workgroup. Are all
>> computers a member of the same Workgroup?
>>
>> If you can't browse them by computer name, can you browse them by IP
>> address?
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
>> > files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the
>> > new
>> > one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all
>> > of
>> > the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista
>> > machine.
>> > However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the
>> > Windows
>> > 2000
>> > machine.
>> >
>> > All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP
>> > and
>> > Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects
>> > via
>> > Ethernet cable.
>> >
>> > What do you think the problem is?
>> >

>>
>>
>>



 
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Gavalin
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      11-10-2008, 08:40 PM
John,

I've tried pinging by IP and by name. Neither works.


"JohnB" wrote:

> Robert asked about pinging by IP. Is that what you're saying? That you
> cannot ping the WIN2K machine from any of the others, by IP?
>
>
>
>
> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:C026232C-CD25-403F-9B17-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > NO GO. I can ping all of the machines from the WIN2K system and I can
> > ping
> > the XP and Vista machines from the XP machines (and vice versa). Hover I
> > can
> > not ping the WIN2K machine from any of the others.
> >
> >
> > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> Can other computers ping windows 2000 by IP? If yes, this is name
> >> resolution
> >> issue.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> >> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
> >> > files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the
> >> > new
> >> > one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all
> >> > of
> >> > the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista
> >> > machine.
> >> > However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the
> >> > Windows
> >> > 2000
> >> > machine.
> >> >
> >> > All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP
> >> > and
> >> > Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects
> >> > via
> >> > Ethernet cable.
> >> >
> >> > What do you think the problem is?
> >> >
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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      11-10-2008, 08:47 PM
So you've got a connectivity issue, not a name resolution issue.

Have you done a IPCONFIG on the Win2k machine, and compare it to the
IPCONFIG results for the other machines? The problem machine is the only
"wired" machine. I'm not familiar with that router. Do both wired and
wireless hosts get an IP address from the same pool on the router?




"Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:48E73932-0A94-4AC6-81DA-(E-Mail Removed)...
> John,
>
> I've tried pinging by IP and by name. Neither works.
>
>
> "JohnB" wrote:
>
>> Robert asked about pinging by IP. Is that what you're saying? That you
>> cannot ping the WIN2K machine from any of the others, by IP?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:C026232C-CD25-403F-9B17-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > NO GO. I can ping all of the machines from the WIN2K system and I can
>> > ping
>> > the XP and Vista machines from the XP machines (and vice versa). Hover
>> > I
>> > can
>> > not ping the WIN2K machine from any of the others.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can other computers ping windows 2000 by IP? If yes, this is name
>> >> resolution
>> >> issue.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> >> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and
>> >> >share
>> >> > files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and
>> >> > the
>> >> > new
>> >> > one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see
>> >> > all
>> >> > of
>> >> > the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista
>> >> > machine.
>> >> > However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the
>> >> > Windows
>> >> > 2000
>> >> > machine.
>> >> >
>> >> > All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP
>> >> > and
>> >> > Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000
>> >> > connects
>> >> > via
>> >> > Ethernet cable.
>> >> >
>> >> > What do you think the problem is?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



 
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      11-10-2008, 08:53 PM
John,

All answers are yes except last question (browsing by IP address instead of
name). I'm not sure how to "browse" for the computer by IP address through
Windows XP (or Vista). However, I have tried pinging by IP address and this
doesn't work.


"JohnB" wrote:

> Just to keep this from getting too confusing, based on your answer to
> Robert.... please answer these questions:
>
> Can you ping by host AND IP from each PC to the others?
>
> Are all machines getting their IP from the router?
>
> You said they're all part of a Workgroup. Have you verified that all
> computers belong to the same Workgroup?
>
> Can the other machines browse the Win2k machine if you use it's IP address
> instead of it's computer name?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsC0D6FF5-D213-4755-8CC7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > John,
> >
> > Correct. I can browse the shares on the XP and Vista machines from any
> > other machine. I can also browse any of the machines from the WIN2K
> > machine.
> > However, the WIN2K machine does not even show up on any of the XP and/or
> > Vista systems.
> >
> > Again correct. This is in a home network workgroup.
> >
> >
> > "JohnB" wrote:
> >
> >> By "see" I assume you mean browse shares? And not ping by host name?
> >> Two
> >> different things.
> >>
> >> You don't mention a Domain, so I assume this is a Workgroup. Are all
> >> computers a member of the same Workgroup?
> >>
> >> If you can't browse them by computer name, can you browse them by IP
> >> address?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gavalin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:E5B07F97-59F5-4D43-B676-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >I have 4 computers that I'm trying to set up in a home network and share
> >> > files. One is an old Windows 2000 machine, 2 others are XP Pro and the
> >> > new
> >> > one is Vista. Currently, I can get the Windows 2000 machine to see all
> >> > of
> >> > the other 3 and the XP machines can see each other and the Vista
> >> > machine.
> >> > However, neither the XP systems nor the Vista system can see the
> >> > Windows
> >> > 2000
> >> > machine.
> >> >
> >> > All of the computers are connected to a router (2Wire 2701). The XP
> >> > and
> >> > Vista machines are connected wirelessly while the Windows 2000 connects
> >> > via
> >> > Ethernet cable.
> >> >
> >> > What do you think the problem is?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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