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kirk jim
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      03-08-2007, 02:57 PM
The subjectline seems simple, right? thats what i thought too.. but I could
not do it...

let me tell you what I have:
XPsp2 pc
Wireless router: http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/WGT624v3.asp
Adsl modem:
http://speedtouchdsl.de/shop/product...5&language=en&

I have an internet connection with the modem that is not a router, the modem
however does
have a place to put your ISP username and password so its on "always on"
mode.
The pc works fine with the internet....

Now I wanted to add the above wireless router... so I connected the modem
with the router,
to its special ethernet socket for the modem, and then connected the
wireless router using a CABLE
to the pc since it has 4 sockets for ethernet as well as the antenna.

So... I was able to get into the web page of the router that is an "Easy
web-based setup".
I followed the steps... and was perplexed when it was asking me for the
username and login for my isp... Why would this router ask for them since
the modem already has them and is "always on" mode?... anyway I entered them
and continued.. it detected the modem, but when it tried to go online I got
an error....

Ok I thought... it is that the routeer must use the modem as a simple modem
and not on the "always on" mode... so I went into the modem and put it in
"bridged" mode.. in this mode when connected to
a pc you could make a dial up connetion via pppoe and you could connet...
then I reconnected the wireless router again put there again my ISP info....
now this "easy setup"
found a different kind of connection and still cound not go online!

So much for easy setup! lol..... At that point I left my friends house
telling her that this needs some studying and asking arround because I cant
figure it out.....

What was I doing wrong? Any guides? I dont have access now to those machines
so I cant try anything.. but if you can tell me some steps or why it didnt
work I can go there another day and try again.

Could it be that both are trying to be dhcp servers or something? the modem
has an internal IP
that is 10.0.0.138 that you type to go to its setup page,
while the wireless router has 192.168.1.1
and actually the router found this IP of the modem in the easy setup and
displayed it..
but I had no internet access.. it said error all the time.

Any advice or if you know a page that has info on this type of thing would
be great.

The manuals which I have downloaded dont say much.. they say that its easy!
lol

thanks in advance



 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      03-08-2007, 03:21 PM
Hi

If the modem has a Private IP (10.0.0.138), it is a Modem/Router combo.

It is inherent that in the process in order to convert the External Internet
IP to a private IP you need to Route.

Use your Netgear as a switch with an Access Point,
http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html

Jack (MVP-Networking).



"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The subjectline seems simple, right? thats what i thought too.. but I
> could
> not do it...
>
> let me tell you what I have:
> XPsp2 pc
> Wireless router: http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/WGT624v3.asp
> Adsl modem:
> http://speedtouchdsl.de/shop/product...5&language=en&
>
> I have an internet connection with the modem that is not a router, the
> modem
> however does
> have a place to put your ISP username and password so its on "always on"
> mode.
> The pc works fine with the internet....
>
> Now I wanted to add the above wireless router... so I connected the modem
> with the router,
> to its special ethernet socket for the modem, and then connected the
> wireless router using a CABLE
> to the pc since it has 4 sockets for ethernet as well as the antenna.
>
> So... I was able to get into the web page of the router that is an "Easy
> web-based setup".
> I followed the steps... and was perplexed when it was asking me for the
> username and login for my isp... Why would this router ask for them since
> the modem already has them and is "always on" mode?... anyway I entered
> them
> and continued.. it detected the modem, but when it tried to go online I
> got
> an error....
>
> Ok I thought... it is that the routeer must use the modem as a simple
> modem
> and not on the "always on" mode... so I went into the modem and put it in
> "bridged" mode.. in this mode when connected to
> a pc you could make a dial up connetion via pppoe and you could connet...
> then I reconnected the wireless router again put there again my ISP
> info....
> now this "easy setup"
> found a different kind of connection and still cound not go online!
>
> So much for easy setup! lol..... At that point I left my friends house
> telling her that this needs some studying and asking arround because I
> cant
> figure it out.....
>
> What was I doing wrong? Any guides? I dont have access now to those
> machines
> so I cant try anything.. but if you can tell me some steps or why it didnt
> work I can go there another day and try again.
>
> Could it be that both are trying to be dhcp servers or something? the
> modem
> has an internal IP
> that is 10.0.0.138 that you type to go to its setup page,
> while the wireless router has 192.168.1.1
> and actually the router found this IP of the modem in the easy setup and
> displayed it..
> but I had no internet access.. it said error all the time.
>
> Any advice or if you know a page that has info on this type of thing would
> be great.
>
> The manuals which I have downloaded dont say much.. they say that its
> easy!
> lol
>
> thanks in advance
>
>
>



 
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kirk jim
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      03-08-2007, 03:56 PM
Nope you could not avoid entering them in this "setup wizard".
if you did not enter anything it would give you a warning that you have not
entered the info
and you could not press the next button...

after some searching I found this page that gives a special link to bypass
this horrid wizard
(the manual says nothing about this)
http://www.katorlegaz.com/reviews/ne...R614/index.php

now that I can get into the real settings page I may be able to make it
work...

You say that I made the netgear in bridge mode... this is incorrect.. I put
the speedtouch thomson modem in bridged mode to try like that.. but I then
put the settings back as they were before.



"Frankster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> I followed the steps... and was perplexed when it was asking me for the
>> username and login for my isp... Why would this router ask for them
>> since
>> the modem already has them and is "always on" mode?... anyway I entered
>> them
>> and continued.. it detected the modem, but when it tried to go online I
>> got
>> an error....

>
> Do not enter them! Choose the selection that says you don't need to
> sign-on with a username and password.
>
> Since you said you mucked around and set the Netgear to Bridged mode, I
> recommend pressing the reset button to get back to factory defaults. Then
> go through the setup again choosing not to sign on. It should be
> "plug-n-play" after that.
>
> -Frank



 
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