connecting laptop to network

I have a user with a laptop I want to connect to the network. The issue I
believe is profiles. I want to keep everything he has and just login as
normal user. When I go through the get NetworkID process all is good. Laptop
login username/password is identical to the network. If I login to the
domain all of his laptop profile is gone. It's like starting a new account.
If I login to his laptop, then try to connect to his network account I get
prompted for username/password but I don't get access.

How do I get him logged onto the network and keep his WinXP Pro laptop
profile all intact?

thanks!

Hello shank,

If the user gets a domain account even with the same name as using locally,
it is a different account and creates a new profile on the local machine.
That's normal and by design.

So what kind of access does the user need, only a network share? The the
user should create it's own mapping and use the domain user to authenticate
when prompted for name/password.

If the user should logon to the domain and the computer should also work
complete in the domain add the machine to the domain. Logon one time to create
profile and then copy with an admin account the data form the existing local
userprofile to the new created profile.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> I have a user with a laptop I want to connect to the network. The
> issue I believe is profiles. I want to keep everything he has and just
> login as normal user. When I go through the get NetworkID process all
> is good. Laptop login username/password is identical to the network.
> If I login to the domain all of his laptop profile is gone. It's like
> starting a new account. If I login to his laptop, then try to connect
> to his network account I get prompted for username/password but I
> don't get access.
>
> How do I get him logged onto the network and keep his WinXP Pro laptop
> profile all intact?
>
> thanks!
>

>>then copy with an admin account the data form the existing local
userprofile to the new created profile<<
I tried that. MS KB said to copy all but the NTUser.* files. I did that, but
desktop was all different. Personal settings were not copied over. Is it
basically no matter what you copy over there will be differences?

I want the user to be able to connect to ActiveD so files are synched to the
server.
thanks

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hello shank,
>
> If the user gets a domain account even with the same name as using
> locally, it is a different account and creates a new profile on the local
> machine. That's normal and by design.
>
> So what kind of access does the user need, only a network share? The the
> user should create it's own mapping and use the domain user to
> authenticate when prompted for name/password.
>
> If the user should logon to the domain and the computer should also work
> complete in the domain add the machine to the domain. Logon one time to
> create profile and then copy with an admin account the data form the
> existing local userprofile to the new created profile.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> I have a user with a laptop I want to connect to the network. The
>> issue I believe is profiles. I want to keep everything he has and just
>> login as normal user. When I go through the get NetworkID process all
>> is good. Laptop login username/password is identical to the network.
>> If I login to the domain all of his laptop profile is gone. It's like
>> starting a new account. If I login to his laptop, then try to connect
>> to his network account I get prompted for username/password but I
>> don't get access.
>>
>> How do I get him logged onto the network and keep his WinXP Pro laptop
>> profile all intact?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>
>

"shank" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:er$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>then copy with an admin account the data form the existing local
> userprofile to the new created profile<<
> I tried that. MS KB said to copy all but the NTUser.* files. I did that,
> but desktop was all different. Personal settings were not copied over. Is
> it basically no matter what you copy over there will be differences?
>
> I want the user to be able to connect to ActiveD so files are synched to
> the server.
> thanks
>

Actually, you don't want to do it within explorer. While logged on as the
admin account, you want to go into System properties (Control Panel),
Advanced, User profiles, and copy the local profile to the user's domain
profile, and in the permissions box, allow the user's domain profile to use
it.

Here are more specific instructions to copy a profile:
www.windowsxp.mvps.org/dupprofile.htm

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OK... done with profile. Something else confusing me. I need to move he
user's 9GB *.pst file so it can be imported into the laptop Outlook. I
created a temp folder in the user's home drive. Copied the *.pst file into,
and it's not there! Can't even see it logged onto the server as admin. I've
opened up the permissions on the file and copied it a few times. At 1/2 a
crack it's getting old. Any burp in the network and it corrupts.

Anyway, it's a matter of the user logging into his workstation, copying,
then logging into his laptop, and it's not there. Why?

thanks!

Hello shank,

Any error message in the event viewer after/during copy? Is the .pst opened
when you try to copy it?

And it is recommended to not use .pst files from network shares and they
should be not bigger then 2GB!!!

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> OK... done with profile. Something else confusing me. I need to move
> he user's 9GB *.pst file so it can be imported into the laptop
> Outlook. I created a temp folder in the user's home drive. Copied the
> *.pst file into, and it's not there! Can't even see it logged onto the
> server as admin. I've opened up the permissions on the file and copied
> it a few times. At 1/2 a crack it's getting old. Any burp in the
> network and it corrupts.
>
> Anyway, it's a matter of the user logging into his workstation,
> copying, then logging into his laptop, and it's not there. Why?
>
> thanks!
>

Hello shank,

See here about .pst:
http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/arc...n-t-do-it.aspx

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830336

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/296088

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832925/

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> OK... done with profile. Something else confusing me. I need to move
> he user's 9GB *.pst file so it can be imported into the laptop
> Outlook. I created a temp folder in the user's home drive. Copied the
> *.pst file into, and it's not there! Can't even see it logged onto the
> server as admin. I've opened up the permissions on the file and copied
> it a few times. At 1/2 a crack it's getting old. Any burp in the
> network and it corrupts.
>
> Anyway, it's a matter of the user logging into his workstation,
> copying, then logging into his laptop, and it's not there. Why?
>
> thanks!
>

Appreciated! What I finally got accomplished was instead of exporting the
*.pst and copying to the network. I copied the actual working *.pst file to
the server and I could import into the laptop. Chugged away all night, but
it completed. Now it's 13GB in size. When I found the user had a 9GB file I
told him it was outrageous. When he comes in I'll insist he archive that
crap. We are using the server to sync the local stations. I store data files
on the network, but not anything like email.

I'm just blundering into this networking because of no real IT person. I
have a lot of learning to do with profiles and permissions. I got the laptop
connected, synched and working as expected. Problem: On the laptop, when
logged into the network domain - no problem. Simulate travel and try to
login under the laptop domain WORKGROUP with same username and all files are
gone again. When on the road, should the user just log in to the NETWORK
domain and accept any cannot connect messages?

thanks!
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"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hello shank,
>
> See here about .pst:
> http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/arc...n-t-do-it.aspx
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830336
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/296088
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832925/
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> OK... done with profile. Something else confusing me. I need to move
>> he user's 9GB *.pst file so it can be imported into the laptop
>> Outlook. I created a temp folder in the user's home drive. Copied the
>> *.pst file into, and it's not there! Can't even see it logged onto the
>> server as admin. I've opened up the permissions on the file and copied
>> it a few times. At 1/2 a crack it's getting old. Any burp in the
>> network and it corrupts.
>>
>> Anyway, it's a matter of the user logging into his workstation,
>> copying, then logging into his laptop, and it's not there. Why?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>
>

Hello shank,

Even if the userprofile was copied from the lcoal to the domain user, this
is another profile and there is no sync between the local profiles on the
machine.

If your domain user travel, she/he has to logon like connecting to the domain.
So logging on with "domainname" when Ctrl+Alt+Del is used instead of "machinename(this
computer)". When the user was logged on to the domain one time, she/he is
able to use cached credentials to logon. Of course no network drives are
usable this way but the complete profile will be there as when logged on
to the domain.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Appreciated! What I finally got accomplished was instead of exporting
> the *.pst and copying to the network. I copied the actual working
> *.pst file to the server and I could import into the laptop. Chugged
> away all night, but it completed. Now it's 13GB in size. When I found
> the user had a 9GB file I told him it was outrageous. When he comes in
> I'll insist he archive that crap. We are using the server to sync the
> local stations. I store data files on the network, but not anything
> like email.
>
> I'm just blundering into this networking because of no real IT person.
> I have a lot of learning to do with profiles and permissions. I got
> the laptop connected, synched and working as expected. Problem: On the
> laptop, when logged into the network domain - no problem. Simulate
> travel and try to login under the laptop domain WORKGROUP with same
> username and all files are gone again. When on the road, should the
> user just log in to the NETWORK domain and accept any cannot connect
> messages?
>
> thanks!
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
>> Hello shank,
>>
>> See here about .pst:
>> http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/arc...work-stored-ps
>> t-files-don-t-do-it.aspx
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830336
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/296088
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832925/
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> OK... done with profile. Something else confusing me. I need to move
>>> he user's 9GB *.pst file so it can be imported into the laptop
>>> Outlook. I created a temp folder in the user's home drive. Copied
>>> the *.pst file into, and it's not there! Can't even see it logged
>>> onto the server as admin. I've opened up the permissions on the file
>>> and copied it a few times. At 1/2 a crack it's getting old. Any burp
>>> in the network and it corrupts.
>>>
>>> Anyway, it's a matter of the user logging into his workstation,
>>> copying, then logging into his laptop, and it's not there. Why?
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>

"shank" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Appreciated! What I finally got accomplished was instead of exporting the
> *.pst and copying to the network. I copied the actual working *.pst file
> to the server and I could import into the laptop. Chugged away all night,
> but it completed. Now it's 13GB in size. When I found the user had a 9GB
> file I told him it was outrageous. When he comes in I'll insist he archive
> that crap. We are using the server to sync the local stations. I store
> data files on the network, but not anything like email.
>
> I'm just blundering into this networking because of no real IT person. I
> have a lot of learning to do with profiles and permissions. I got the
> laptop connected, synched and working as expected. Problem: On the laptop,
> when logged into the network domain - no problem. Simulate travel and try
> to login under the laptop domain WORKGROUP with same username and all
> files are gone again. When on the road, should the user just log in to the
> NETWORK domain and accept any cannot connect messages?
>
> thanks!


To keep things in perspective, and force users to only logon to the domain,
I would remove their local user account off the laptop, forcing them to only
logon with their domain accounts. Even if they aren't on the network at the
physical office, once they've logged on while at the office and the profile
has been established, they will still be able to logon while away from the
office using cached credentials and have access to their domain profile on
the laptop.

You can also opt to setup Folder Redirection/Offline Files use with a GPO
that will move their My Docs to their home or other centralized folder on a
server, and the folder Redirection option will sync that with the server,
and allow them to use the local cached copy while on the road. This doesn't
work for some file types, such as PSTs, MDB and a few others.

You can also setup a VPN for users to connect into while on the road, but
that would require network connectivity on their end while away from the
office such as wireless hotspots, air card, etc.

As for PSTs, that 9GB or 13GB PST is outrageously large, and unprecedent.
There's an inherit issue that if something were to go with the laptop, they
would lose all their emails.

There's more, but this should be good for starters.

Ace