On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:25:41 -0400, Mark McIntyre wrote
(in article <(E-Mail Removed)>):
> On 17 Sep 2006 09:28:41 -0700, in uk.telecom.broadband ,
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
>> Hi, I've recently purchased an Apple iMac and upgraded to broadband
>> from dial-up at the same time.
> <snip description of iMac being unable to see router>
>
>> am wondering if I should try and get hold of a PC to set up the router
>> and then once it's set up I can use my Mac - but I feel I shouldn't
>> have to do this. Any help much appreciated!
>
> You don't need a PC, the router is configured through the web
> interface and is hardware-agnostic.
>
> Your connections should get set up something like this.
> NB I'm assuming your ADSL modem has ethernet output. If not, you have
> the wrong kit.
If the OP has a USB DSL device, he should get it replaced by an Ethernet
device ASAP. USB devices are nothing but trouble.
>
> Without any network cables attached, ensure the iMac is set to use
> DHCP to get an IP address.
To do this, go to System Preferences/Network. Double-click on 'Built-in
Ethrnet'. You'll be presented with a dialog with several panes, the first
being 'TCP/IP'. By default the system is set to use DHCP. You can change this
if you wish at that pane. Note that some ISPs have problems with connections
if you don't type in the IP address of their (local) DNS server in the 'DNS
server' box. For example, Adelphia here in West Palm Beach gets flakey if I
don't have the WPB server IP entered. (68.168.1.42 in this case.) Entering
the IP for an Adelphia server elsewhere has bad results. Entering no IP has
worse results. You may want to talk to your ISP and get their DNS server IP.
You don't need a search domain and I usually leave that blank, but if you
want to you can simply type in the name of your ISP's primary site.
('adelphia.net' in my case.)
If you're using ADSL, odds are that you're using either PPPoA or PPPoE. if
PPPoA, you don't need to do anything. If PPPoE you need to configure _EITHER_
the Mac or the router. Don't do both. Very bad things will happen if you try.
Note that if you configure the Mac, you'll have to configure any other
computer which you attach to the local net and which you want to have
Internet access, so it's easier to configure the router. To configure PPPoE
on a Mac, click on the 'PPPoE' pane next to the 'TCP/IP' pane in 'System
Preferences/Network'. You'll be presented with a dialog requesting the
required informtion.
If you got your DSL device from your ISP, odds are that it's already
configured for PPPoA or PPPoE and you don't need to do anything more.
I don't know if any ISP in the UK uses PPPoE. The only ISP I dealt with which
used DSL in the UK used PPPoA. (They tried to dump one of those 'green
stingray' (since then replaced by a 'purple stingray' which was equally
useless) Alcatel USB things on me. I went and bought an Ethernet unit
instead. I've still got it in a closet somewhere around here, though it's
rather useless without a trans-Atlantic cable, Yankee DSL uses PPPoE not
PPPoA.)
>
> Then Power off EVERYTHING.
> Connect ADSL modem to router's WAN port.
> Connect iMac to one of the router's LAN ports with normal ethernet
> cable.
> Power the modem on. Wait around 30 secs.
> Power router on. Wait around 30 secs.
Typically you'll see a lot of little lights blinking furiously away on the
router and DSL device. When things have quieted down, the devices are ready.
> Power the iMac on.
> Check what the iMac's IP address is. If should be 192.168.x.y where x
> and y are two numbers.
Some DSL device/router combinations (Alcatel Speedtouch, I'm referring to
_you_) use 10.x.x.y where 'x' is 0 to 255 and 'y' is 0 to 254 instead. Some
routers (Apple AirPort routers, I'm referring to _you_) do the same.
> I don't have OSX so I can't tell you precisely
> how you do that, but on my Linux box I'd open a command window of some
> sort and type 'ifconfig'.
On Macs you can get the info from System Preferences/Network; the initial
dialog, before you double click on 'built-in ethernet', announces what IP the
port has been assigned. Once you double-click on 'built-in ethernet' the IP
info is displayed.
You can also launch Terminal, and type 'ifconfig'.
>
> If the address is 169.something then your router isn't talking to your
> computer. Try a factory-reset (there's normally a handy button on the
> side). If this fails, check the manual or user guide (maybe some PDF
> on the CD) to see what the router's default address is. Set your iMac
> to have a similar address - eg if your router is 192.168.x.y, set your
> iMac to 192.168.x.y+1 (if y+1 > 255 then use y-1). Reboot hte iMac
> after changing the address, just to be safe.
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