Connecting an Ethernet to Token Ring Network

I am having trouble connecting my Token Ring MarkNet Pro 3 Print Server to my Ethernet network. What I have tried so far is to put a token ring network card as well as an Ethernet card in my Windows Server 2003 machine. I have a crossover cable connected from the token ring card in the machine to the print server’s token ring adapter. I have the Ethernet adapter connected to an Ethernet switch to the rest of my network. I am using 192.168.1.0 for the Ethernet network.

I need the print server to pick up a DHCP address. I tried bridging the network cards together. I have tried setting up DHCP directly on the Windows 2003 server. I tried configuring Routing on the server. Nothing seems to work, perhaps I am doing something wrong. Any suggestions?

Regards,
Kent Browning

I think you can not use a cross over cable for Token Ring, unlike Ethernet
corss over cable.
For Toekn ring phantom voltage is necessary. also loop back is necessary.
So I thing you need a MAU, so the win 2003 server and printer server Tokein
ring
adapters are connected through MAU.

Also either bridging or routing is must for token ring to communicate to
ethernet.
So my suggestion - try with MAU and briding toekn ring and ethernet cards on
the server.

Sharad

"Kent Browning" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:F80D2F7B-C568-4E4C-95C9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I am having trouble connecting my Token Ring MarkNet Pro 3 Print Server to
my Ethernet network. What I have tried so far is to put a token ring network
card as well as an Ethernet card in my Windows Server 2003 machine. I have a
crossover cable connected from the token ring card in the machine to the
print server's token ring adapter. I have the Ethernet adapter connected to
an Ethernet switch to the rest of my network. I am using 192.168.1.0 for the
Ethernet network.
>
> I need the print server to pick up a DHCP address. I tried bridging the
network cards together. I have tried setting up DHCP directly on the Windows
2003 server. I tried configuring Routing on the server. Nothing seems to
work, perhaps I am doing something wrong. Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> Kent Browning
>

The differences between ethernet and token ring are almost too many to
enumerate. Beyond the technology issue that connecting them electrically may
fry one of them, there are also differences in protocols. You have to
connect them with a layer two device (i.e. switch, bridge) or a even maybe a
router (although that can get expensive). Switches that support both
architectures tend to be expensive also. The least expensive solution may be
to purchase an ethernet card for the print server.
Al
"Kent Browning" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:F80D2F7B-C568-4E4C-95C9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I am having trouble connecting my Token Ring MarkNet Pro 3 Print Server to
my Ethernet network. What I have tried so far is to put a token ring network
card as well as an Ethernet card in my Windows Server 2003 machine. I have a
crossover cable connected from the token ring card in the machine to the
print server's token ring adapter. I have the Ethernet adapter connected to
an Ethernet switch to the rest of my network. I am using 192.168.1.0 for the
Ethernet network.
>
> I need the print server to pick up a DHCP address. I tried bridging the
network cards together. I have tried setting up DHCP directly on the Windows
2003 server. I tried configuring Routing on the server. Nothing seems to
work, perhaps I am doing something wrong. Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> Kent Browning
>

Yes Al,
he can pruchase two enternet cards, in faaaar less price than a MAU or Token
Ring Switch.

Sharad

"Al Edlund" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> The differences between ethernet and token ring are almost too many to
> enumerate. Beyond the technology issue that connecting them electrically
may
> fry one of them, there are also differences in protocols. You have to
> connect them with a layer two device (i.e. switch, bridge) or a even maybe
a
> router (although that can get expensive). Switches that support both
> architectures tend to be expensive also. The least expensive solution may
be
> to purchase an ethernet card for the print server.
> Al
> "Kent Browning" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:F80D2F7B-C568-4E4C-95C9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I am having trouble connecting my Token Ring MarkNet Pro 3 Print Server
to
> my Ethernet network. What I have tried so far is to put a token ring
network
> card as well as an Ethernet card in my Windows Server 2003 machine. I have
a
> crossover cable connected from the token ring card in the machine to the
> print server's token ring adapter. I have the Ethernet adapter connected
to
> an Ethernet switch to the rest of my network. I am using 192.168.1.0 for
the
> Ethernet network.
> >
> > I need the print server to pick up a DHCP address. I tried bridging the
> network cards together. I have tried setting up DHCP directly on the
Windows
> 2003 server. I tried configuring Routing on the server. Nothing seems to
> work, perhaps I am doing something wrong. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kent Browning
> >
>
>

Thanks for the ideas guys. Keep in mind that it is not as simple as just purchasing an ethernet card. The MarkNet print server is a complete device - I would have to buy a complete new device ~$200-300 if I want Ethernet. I got the specs on how to make a token-ring crossover cable. That is the next thing I will try. Connect the print server to the token ring card in my W2K3 box with the token ring crossover cable, then bridge or enable routing between the 2 cards in the W2K3 box.

I'll keep you posted.
Thanks again,
Kent Browning

----- sharad wrote: -----

Yes Al,
he can pruchase two enternet cards, in faaaar less price than a MAU or Token
Ring Switch.

Sharad

"Al Edlund" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> The differences between ethernet and token ring are almost too many to
> enumerate. Beyond the technology issue that connecting them electrically
may
> fry one of them, there are also differences in protocols. You have to
> connect them with a layer two device (i.e. switch, bridge) or a even maybe
a
> router (although that can get expensive). Switches that support both
> architectures tend to be expensive also. The least expensive solution may
be
> to purchase an ethernet card for the print server.
> Al
> "Kent Browning" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:F80D2F7B-C568-4E4C-95C9-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I am having trouble connecting my Token Ring MarkNet Pro 3 Print Server
to
> my Ethernet network. What I have tried so far is to put a token ring
network
> card as well as an Ethernet card in my Windows Server 2003 machine. I have
a
> crossover cable connected from the token ring card in the machine to the
> print server's token ring adapter. I have the Ethernet adapter connected
to
> an Ethernet switch to the rest of my network. I am using 192.168.1.0 for
the
> Ethernet network.
>>>> I need the print server to pick up a DHCP address. I tried bridging the
> network cards together. I have tried setting up DHCP directly on the
Windows
> 2003 server. I tried configuring Routing on the server. Nothing seems to
> work, perhaps I am doing something wrong. Any suggestions?
>>>> Regards,
>> Kent Browning
>>>>

Thanks Kent,

IMO, in that case looks like a MAU or a Token Ring siwtch, would be
required .
Try with the cross-over cable and let us know too.

Sharad

"Kent Browning" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ADE09091-ABD8-4B4F-93CB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for the ideas guys. Keep in mind that it is not as simple as just
purchasing an ethernet card. The MarkNet print server is a complete device -
I would have to buy a complete new device ~$200-300 if I want Ethernet. I
got the specs on how to make a token-ring crossover cable. That is the next
thing I will try. Connect the print server to the token ring card in my W2K3
box with the token ring crossover cable, then bridge or enable routing
between the 2 cards in the W2K3 box.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
> Thanks again,
> Kent Browning
>
> ----- sharad wrote: -----
>
> Yes Al,
> he can pruchase two enternet cards, in faaaar less price than a MAU
or Token
> Ring Switch.
>
> Sharad
>
> "Al Edlund" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > The differences between ethernet and token ring are almost too many
to
> > enumerate. Beyond the technology issue that connecting them
electrically
> may
> > fry one of them, there are also differences in protocols. You have
to
> > connect them with a layer two device (i.e. switch, bridge) or a
even maybe
> a
> > router (although that can get expensive). Switches that support
both
> > architectures tend to be expensive also. The least expensive
solution may
> be
> > to purchase an ethernet card for the print server.
> > Al
> > "Kent Browning" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:F80D2F7B-C568-4E4C-95C9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I am having trouble connecting my Token Ring MarkNet Pro 3 Print
Server
> to
> > my Ethernet network. What I have tried so far is to put a token
ring
> network
> > card as well as an Ethernet card in my Windows Server 2003 machine.
I have
> a
> > crossover cable connected from the token ring card in the machine
to the
> > print server's token ring adapter. I have the Ethernet adapter
connected
> to
> > an Ethernet switch to the rest of my network. I am using
192.168.1.0 for
> the
> > Ethernet network.
> >>>> I need the print server to pick up a DHCP address. I tried
bridging the
> > network cards together. I have tried setting up DHCP directly on
the
> Windows
> > 2003 server. I tried configuring Routing on the server. Nothing
seems to
> > work, perhaps I am doing something wrong. Any suggestions?
> >>>> Regards,
> >> Kent Browning
> >>>>