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The Edge
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      11-29-2004, 12:44 PM
I have a MN700 and an MN500. I also have a TIVO. My
TIVO will only support a wireless B connection. Naturally
I would like to use my G system to get faster speeds. But
I need to keep my TIVO connected to keep the program guide
up to date. Is there a way to just use the MN500
(Wireless B) to keep the TIVO connected and use the MN700
(Wireless G) to get the faster speeds for actual computer
use using just one cable modem?
Any help given would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Joker
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      11-29-2004, 01:09 PM
This link by barb is about segmenting.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...an_segnet.mspx

For the connection between the two routers follow these directions.

One of the two following hardware configurations will allow you to
expand your Microsoft Broadband Network.

The first one is connected via wires & the second one is connected via
wireless.

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Wired connection configuration information.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #2 --> WAN port of MN-500 or MN-700 #2
MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1 LAN port #3 --> WAN port of MN-500 or
MN-700 #3 (if available)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wireless connection configuration information.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

(For this configuration you can only use WEP & MAC filtering, for
wireless security, because the MN-740 doesn't support WPA.)

Broadband modem --> WAN port of MN-500 or MN-700 #1
MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #2
MN-740 --> WAN port of MN-500, or MN-700 #3 (if available)

You will have to configure each MN-740 on an Xbox to connect to the
wireless network you want the second & third router to connect to.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
General configuration information for both network connection types.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Make sure all MN-100's & MN-500's are running the latest firmware which
is 1.11.017

Make sure all MN-700's are running the latest firmware which is 2.01.02.0590

Make sure all MN-740's are running the latest firmware which is 1.00.02.0021

Now let’s look at the setup of each MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700:

MN-100, MN-500, or MN-700 #1
Router mode
LAN IP address at default of 192.168.2.1
Some SSID (if wireless)
Some WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 6 (if wireless)

MN-500 or MN-700 #2
Bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.42, outside of default DHCP range
Same SSID
Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 1

MN-500 or MN-700 #3 (if available)
Bridge mode
LAN IP address at 192.168.2.43, outside of default DHCP range
Same SSID
Same WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network supports WPA)
Channel 11


If you keep the SSID and WEP key or WPA key (If the entire network
supports WPA) the same for all base stations, people will be able to
move between locations and get a connection, without needing to change
there configuration as they move.

If you are using WEP on some but WPA on other wireless routers you will
have to reconfigure the wireless settings as you switch between wireless
networks.

You need to select non-overlapping channels for the base stations to
prevent interference.

Non-overlapping channels have at least 5 channels between them as 1, 6,
& 11 do.

Channels 1, 6, & 11 are the three non-overlapping channels.

There are more combinations if you only need two channels.

One last note 2.4 & many 5.8 GHz phones (The models that use the 2.4 GHz
frequency as well as the 5.8 GHZ frequency) will cause interference with
802.11b & 802.11g wireless networking hardware, as 802.11b & 802.11g
both use the 2.4 GHz frequency.


The Edge wrote:

> I have a MN700 and an MN500. I also have a TIVO. My
> TIVO will only support a wireless B connection. Naturally
> I would like to use my G system to get faster speeds. But
> I need to keep my TIVO connected to keep the program guide
> up to date. Is there a way to just use the MN500
> (Wireless B) to keep the TIVO connected and use the MN700
> (Wireless G) to get the faster speeds for actual computer
> use using just one cable modem?
> Any help given would be greatly appreciated.


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      11-30-2004, 07:41 PM
Couldn't you just use the MN-700's "mixed b compatible" mode wireless
settings? It won't be quite as fast for the g system as "native g-mode" but
it would allow both your b and g wireless adapters to connect to the same
network. I have used this myself in the past - I have a desktop with a g
adapter and a laptop that I only use occasionally that has a b adapter - and
I only see about a 10-15% hit when using mixed mode.

Log on to your base station and click on "Wireless Settings" to see what I
mean.

Cheers!

Jim


"The Edge" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a MN700 and an MN500. I also have a TIVO. My
> TIVO will only support a wireless B connection. Naturally
> I would like to use my G system to get faster speeds. But
> I need to keep my TIVO connected to keep the program guide
> up to date. Is there a way to just use the MN500
> (Wireless B) to keep the TIVO connected and use the MN700
> (Wireless G) to get the faster speeds for actual computer
> use using just one cable modem?
> Any help given would be greatly appreciated.



 
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      12-01-2004, 01:42 PM
It sounds like you need to read this link jim.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...an_segnet.mspx


Jim Cofer wrote:
> Couldn't you just use the MN-700's "mixed b compatible" mode wireless
> settings? It won't be quite as fast for the g system as "native g-mode" but
> it would allow both your b and g wireless adapters to connect to the same
> network. I have used this myself in the past - I have a desktop with a g
> adapter and a laptop that I only use occasionally that has a b adapter - and
> I only see about a 10-15% hit when using mixed mode.
>
> Log on to your base station and click on "Wireless Settings" to see what I
> mean.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jim
>


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      12-01-2004, 05:06 PM
I'm familiar with segmented networks, I just saw nothing in the OP that
would indicate that he wanted to use the 700 for anything other than faster
speeds. Using "mixed b-mode" will allow for the faster speeds he wants
without having to run two different routers, nor the complexity of a
segmented network.


"Joker" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> It sounds like you need to read this link jim.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...an_segnet.mspx
>
> Jim Cofer wrote:
>> Couldn't you just use the MN-700's "mixed b compatible" mode wireless
>> settings? It won't be quite as fast for the g system as "native g-mode"
>> but it would allow both your b and g wireless adapters to connect to the
>> same network. I have used this myself in the past - I have a desktop
>> with a g adapter and a laptop that I only use occasionally that has a b
>> adapter - and I only see about a 10-15% hit when using mixed mode.
>>
>> Log on to your base station and click on "Wireless Settings" to see what
>> I mean.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Jim
>>

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