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      10-24-2004, 08:53 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before (I would guess it's a common enough
question), but I wasn't really sure what to search for via google, so I
didn't turn up what I was looking for.

Basically, I have a PC (PC1) connected to a wireless ADSL router. Is
there a way to access the internet from a second PC (PC2) connecting via
the ethernet port to the first? Tried bridging the wireless connection
& the ethernet connection on PC1, but this stopped me accessing the
router from PC1 )loss of internet connection).

This is how things are connected at the minute:

PC2 > ethernet > PC1 > wireless > ADSL router.

So is it possible to make use of the internet connection provided by the
ADSL router from PC2?

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      10-24-2004, 09:32 PM
"[ste parker]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Basically, I have a PC (PC1) connected to a wireless ADSL router. Is
> there a way to access the internet from a second PC (PC2) connecting via
> the ethernet port to the first? Tried bridging the wireless connection
> & the ethernet connection on PC1, but this stopped me accessing the
> router from PC1 )loss of internet connection).
>
> This is how things are connected at the minute:
>
> PC2 > ethernet > PC1 > wireless > ADSL router.


Bridging should work. Perhaps this is the cause of the problem:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302348

If the router has the ability to add routes, you could use routing instead.

HTH,
Alex


 
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      10-24-2004, 10:11 PM
Alex Fraser wrote:
> "[ste parker]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>Basically, I have a PC (PC1) connected to a wireless ADSL router. Is
>>there a way to access the internet from a second PC (PC2) connecting via
>>the ethernet port to the first? Tried bridging the wireless connection
>>& the ethernet connection on PC1, but this stopped me accessing the
>>router from PC1 )loss of internet connection).
>>
>>This is how things are connected at the minute:
>>
>>PC2 > ethernet > PC1 > wireless > ADSL router.

>
>
> Bridging should work. Perhaps this is the cause of the problem:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302348
>
> If the router has the ability to add routes, you could use routing instead.
>


Aha, thanks for that. Certainly sorted out the PC (wirelessley)
connected to the router, still trouble getting the other PC to work with
it though, got some sort of conflicting IP complaint.

My router is a Netgear DG834G, it has a section where you can add static
routes, so I'm assuming I could do things that way? Looked a bit
bewildering....


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      10-24-2004, 10:20 PM

"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "[ste parker]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Basically, I have a PC (PC1) connected to a wireless ADSL router. Is
>> there a way to access the internet from a second PC (PC2) connecting via
>> the ethernet port to the first? Tried bridging the wireless connection
>> & the ethernet connection on PC1, but this stopped me accessing the
>> router from PC1 )loss of internet connection).
>>
>> This is how things are connected at the minute:
>>
>> PC2 > ethernet > PC1 > wireless > ADSL router.

>
> Bridging should work. Perhaps this is the cause of the problem:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302348
>
> If the router has the ability to add routes, you could use routing
> instead.
>
> HTH,
> Alex
>
>

Could be ip address assignment conflict.
Windows ICS uses ip address 192.168.0.1, it is quite possibly your routers
ip address too.
Changing your routers address range to 192.168.1.1 or some other ip address
range should allow ICS to work, alternatively use a proxy server or some
other networking software on your pc to do the sharing.


 
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      10-24-2004, 10:24 PM
[ste parker] wrote:
> Alex Fraser wrote:
>
>>"[ste parker]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>>>Basically, I have a PC (PC1) connected to a wireless ADSL router. Is
>>>there a way to access the internet from a second PC (PC2) connecting via
>>>the ethernet port to the first? Tried bridging the wireless connection
>>>& the ethernet connection on PC1, but this stopped me accessing the
>>>router from PC1 )loss of internet connection).
>>>
>>>This is how things are connected at the minute:
>>>
>>>PC2 > ethernet > PC1 > wireless > ADSL router.

>>
>>
>>Bridging should work. Perhaps this is the cause of the problem:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302348
>>
>>If the router has the ability to add routes, you could use routing instead.
>>

>
>
> Aha, thanks for that. Certainly sorted out the PC (wirelessley)
> connected to the router, still trouble getting the other PC to work with
> it though, got some sort of conflicting IP complaint.
>
> My router is a Netgear DG834G, it has a section where you can add static
> routes, so I'm assuming I could do things that way? Looked a bit
> bewildering....
>


.....and now it's just started working fine for no apparent reason. Must
have tried it too soon before it sorted itself out.

Great! Now I can use my desktop for home stuff, use my work laptop to
connect remotely via an AT&T VPN to the US while I work from home this
week, and lend my neighbour my wireless network card so her kids can use
the 'net with the laptop I lent them Modern technology is pretty
amazing once you get it working!

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      10-25-2004, 12:08 AM
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> [ste parker] wrote:
> > Alex Fraser wrote:
> >>"[ste parker]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >>>PC2 > ethernet > PC1 > wireless > ADSL router.
> >>
> >>Bridging should work. Perhaps this is the cause of the problem:
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302348
> >>
> >>If the router has the ability to add routes, you could use routing
> >>instead.

> >
> > Aha, thanks for that. Certainly sorted out the PC (wirelessley)
> > connected to the router, still trouble getting the other PC to work
> > with it though, got some sort of conflicting IP complaint.
> >
> > My router is a Netgear DG834G, it has a section where you can add
> > static routes, so I'm assuming I could do things that way? Looked a
> > bit bewildering....

>
> ....and now it's just started working fine for no apparent reason. Must
> have tried it too soon before it sorted itself out.


Glad you got it working (hope it stays that way).

For reference, the routing method really isn't too hard to set up; one
possibility:

Router:
Internal interface set to 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0.
Route 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.2 (using internal
interface).
PC1:
IP routing enabled.
Wireless interface set to 192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0.
Wired interface set to 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0.
Default gateway 192.168.0.1 (using wireless interface).
PC2:
Wired interface set to 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0.
Default gateway 192.168.1.1.
(You /could/ use a DHCP server on PC1 to configure this.)

Alex


 
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      10-25-2004, 12:39 AM
John wrote:
> "Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>>"[ste parker]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>>Basically, I have a PC (PC1) connected to a wireless ADSL router. Is
>>>there a way to access the internet from a second PC (PC2) connecting via
>>>the ethernet port to the first? Tried bridging the wireless connection
>>>& the ethernet connection on PC1, but this stopped me accessing the
>>>router from PC1 )loss of internet connection).
>>>
>>>This is how things are connected at the minute:
>>>
>>>PC2 > ethernet > PC1 > wireless > ADSL router.

>>
>>Bridging should work. Perhaps this is the cause of the problem:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302348
>>
>>If the router has the ability to add routes, you could use routing
>>instead.
>>
>>HTH,
>>Alex
>>
>>

>
> Could be ip address assignment conflict.
> Windows ICS uses ip address 192.168.0.1, it is quite possibly your routers
> ip address too.
> Changing your routers address range to 192.168.1.1 or some other ip address
> range should allow ICS to work, alternatively use a proxy server or some
> other networking software on your pc to do the sharing.
>
>


The IP problem wasn't the er, problem. My router is 192.168.0.1, and
the PCs do complain of a conflicting IP however it still lets everything
run OK (once I set my adapters to compatability mode). No harm in
changing the IP of the router though, better having no errors at all!

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