Connect to ADSL with Belkin router and Mac

OK, I've just bought a Belkin F5D7630uk4 ADSL modem with built in 11g
wireless router but don't have a clue how to go about setting it up and
connecting through my newly installed ADSL line.

The instructions say to shut down my computer (15" 1.5Ghz G4 Powerbook,
which has built in Bluetooth that I hope to use with the wireless
router). Connect the computer and router with the RJ45 cable and the
router to the ADSL phone line with the phone cable. Plug in the power
supply to the router and switch it on then power up the computer.

once powered up there is one LAN light on on the front of the router
showing that my powerbook is connected to it.

It then says to point my browser at 192.168.2.1 which is where I run
into problems... How will my browser actually load the page at that
location if it isn't connected? Do I need to connect via dial-up first
to configure the router or do I have to set up an ADSL connection from
within the Network Preference Pane?

I've tried the former and nothing loads into the browser, it just times
out. I've had a look at the latter; my ISP has given me a username and
password and says that I need to connect via PPPoA and given me a VPI
number, VCI number and Encapsulation mode of VC MUX

None of this makes any sense to me as I can't find anything relating to
PPPoA within the Network Preferences Pane... can someone PLEASE help me.

Alan.

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:59:53 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband,
Alan Cole <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>It then says to point my browser at 192.168.2.1 which is where I run
>into problems... How will my browser actually load the page at that
>location if it isn't connected? Do I need to connect via dial-up first
>to configure the router or do I have to set up an ADSL connection from
>within the Network Preference Pane?

A) the 192.168.2.1 address is for the router itself, as it has a web
server built in, to allow a user to set the router up

B) on your Mac, you will need to set an address of something like
192.168.2.10 (ie similar but not the same as the router) so you
will be allowed to connect to it, as it is on the same network.
(no need to dial up anything, and no connection outside the house
is needed to get this part to work).

>I've tried the former and nothing loads into the browser, it just times
>out. I've had a look at the latter; my ISP has given me a username and
>password and says that I need to connect via PPPoA and given me a VPI
>number, VCI number and Encapsulation mode of VC MUX

>None of this makes any sense to me as I can't find anything relating to
>PPPoA within the Network Preferences Pane... can someone PLEASE help me.

No, the information you've been given needs to go into the Belkin on its
setup screens. The login details and settings won't apply to the Mac.

I don't have a Mac myself, but helped a friend with his setup (and some
other router... once we had the ethernet address set up right everything
was pretty easy. On the Belkin, I've set up one of those units here, and
had a laptop using the connection. It wasn't mine, and is at the home of
a client now, but I can probably talk you through the settings if you're
feeling desperate... my reply-to mail address is valid if you want to
send an e-mail. Don't despair... setting it up is not that bad :-)

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Peter Morgan <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:59:53 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband,
> Alan Cole <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >It then says to point my browser at 192.168.2.1 which is where I run
> >into problems... How will my browser actually load the page at that
> >location if it isn't connected? Do I need to connect via dial-up first
> >to configure the router or do I have to set up an ADSL connection from
> >within the Network Preference Pane?
>
> A) the 192.168.2.1 address is for the router itself, as it has a web
> server built in, to allow a user to set the router up
>
> B) on your Mac, you will need to set an address of something like
> 192.168.2.10 (ie similar but not the same as the router) so you
> will be allowed to connect to it, as it is on the same network.
> (no need to dial up anything, and no connection outside the house
> is needed to get this part to work).
>
> >I've tried the former and nothing loads into the browser, it just times
> >out. I've had a look at the latter; my ISP has given me a username and
> >password and says that I need to connect via PPPoA and given me a VPI
> >number, VCI number and Encapsulation mode of VC MUX
>
> >None of this makes any sense to me as I can't find anything relating to
> >PPPoA within the Network Preferences Pane... can someone PLEASE help me.
>
> No, the information you've been given needs to go into the Belkin on its
> setup screens. The login details and settings won't apply to the Mac.
>
> I don't have a Mac myself, but helped a friend with his setup (and some
> other router... once we had the ethernet address set up right everything
> was pretty easy. On the Belkin, I've set up one of those units here, and
> had a laptop using the connection. It wasn't mine, and is at the home of
> a client now, but I can probably talk you through the settings if you're
> feeling desperate... my reply-to mail address is valid if you want to
> send an e-mail. Don't despair... setting it up is not that bad :-)

Thanks for that Peter, I've e-mailed this to you as well.

I also cross-posted the same question in uk.comp.sys.mac, and have so
far got to the stage where I have worked out that the 192.168.2.1 IP
address is that of the router and that the router itself has a built in
web-server allowing me to access it's built in configuration pages. But,
when I point my browser at the IP address I don't get the configuration
page, I get nothing at all.

Any ideas?

Al.

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On 26 Oct 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, Alan Cole wrote:

>But, when I point my browser at the IP address I don't get the
>configuration page, I get nothing at all.

Is your Mac's IP address set to something similar ? (Sorry, I
am unfamiliar with how to get to a screen to check that, but can
possibly find out with a phone call to someone else). Peter.

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Peter M <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 26 Oct 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, Alan Cole wrote:
>
> >But, when I point my browser at the IP address I don't get the
> >configuration page, I get nothing at all.
>
> Is your Mac's IP address set to something similar ? (Sorry, I
> am unfamiliar with how to get to a screen to check that, but can
> possibly find out with a phone call to someone else). Peter.

I'm not entirely sure! I've tried switching everything off and starting
again... This time I got no lights at all come on on the router, and for
some reason all my ethernet settings in the network preference pane seem
to have been lost. And slightly worrying is that under the Network
Status tab, alongside Ethernet where 10 minutes ago it said something
along the lines of 'Built in Ethernet is configured using Ip Address
XXX.XX.XXX.XXX' it now says 'The Cable For Built In Ethernet is not
plugged in'.

I think things are getting worse.

Al.

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On 26 Oct 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, Alan Cole wrote:

>'Built in Ethernet is configured using Ip Address XXX.XX.XXX.XXX'

I trust the xxx.xx.xxx.xxx was something akin to 192.168.2.xx

>it now says 'The Cable For Built In Ethernet is not plugged in'.

From the description, router seems dead, unfortunately. The Mac
is seeing nothing at the other end, so thinks the cable is out.

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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Peter M <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 26 Oct 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, Alan Cole wrote:
>
> >'Built in Ethernet is configured using Ip Address XXX.XX.XXX.XXX'
>
> I trust the xxx.xx.xxx.xxx was something akin to 192.168.2.xx

I'm not actually sure.
>
> >it now says 'The Cable For Built In Ethernet is not plugged in'.
>
> From the description, router seems dead, unfortunately. The Mac
> is seeing nothing at the other end, so thinks the cable is out.

Hmmm... Thats just great! I managed to get a response when I opened
Terminal and typed Ping 192.168.2.1 earlier, but it isn't working now.

Looks like its time to pack it up and send it back.

Al.

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http://tinyurl.com/64xrd [Plusnet ISP]

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Peter M <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 26 Oct 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, Alan Cole wrote:
>
> >'Built in Ethernet is configured using Ip Address XXX.XX.XXX.XXX'
>
> I trust the xxx.xx.xxx.xxx was something akin to 192.168.2.xx
>
> >it now says 'The Cable For Built In Ethernet is not plugged in'.
>
> From the description, router seems dead, unfortunately. The Mac
> is seeing nothing at the other end, so thinks the cable is out.

Well, the LAN 1 light just came on and my computer seems to have
configured itself to have an IP address of 192.168.2.10

Still no configuration page in Internet Explorer though.

Maybe it is just buggered.

--
Alan Cole. E-mail: justal at lineone dot net
http://www.forces-of-nature.co.uk [Coastal Sports]
http://www.tsunami-site-design.co.uk [Website Design]
http://tinyurl.com/64xrd [Plusnet ISP]