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Leiv
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      05-16-2004, 01:08 PM
Hi,
I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the following config.



PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 --> PC2 --> Ethernet Switch


PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
PC2 : 192.168.0.112
Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)

from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I have to do?

MAP
 
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Jim Orfanakos
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      05-16-2004, 01:19 PM
If both wireless routers are configured as routers - then they are working
correctly and PC1 and PC2 will never ping each other.

You have basically setup two private networks, each behind a router, that
happen to have the same TCP/IP addressing scheme. Your setup is such that
this is the same reason you cannot ping my PC....or why I cannot ping your
PC.

What are you trying to do?

"Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> Hi,
> I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the following config.
>
>
>
> PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 --> PC2 --> Ethernet

Switch
>
>
> PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
> Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> PC2 : 192.168.0.112
> Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
>
> from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I have to do?
>
> MAP



 
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Leiv
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      05-16-2004, 06:24 PM
I would like to access PC2 and all the computers in that LAN from PC1

"Jim Orfanakos" <jim@-nospam-orfanakos.com> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> If both wireless routers are configured as routers - then they are working
> correctly and PC1 and PC2 will never ping each other.
>
> You have basically setup two private networks, each behind a router, that
> happen to have the same TCP/IP addressing scheme. Your setup is such that
> this is the same reason you cannot ping my PC....or why I cannot ping your
> PC.
>
> What are you trying to do?
>
> "Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > Hi,
> > I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the following config.
> >
> >
> >
> > PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 --> PC2 --> Ethernet

> Switch
> >
> >
> > PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
> > Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> > PC2 : 192.168.0.112
> > Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> >
> > from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I have to do?
> >
> > MAP

 
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PJB
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      05-16-2004, 10:07 PM

"Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I would like to access PC2 and all the computers in that

LAN from PC1
>
> "Jim Orfanakos" <jim@-nospam-orfanakos.com> wrote in

message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > If both wireless routers are configured as routers -

then they are working
> > correctly and PC1 and PC2 will never ping each other.
> >
> > You have basically setup two private networks, each

behind a router, that
> > happen to have the same TCP/IP addressing scheme. Your

setup is such that
> > this is the same reason you cannot ping my PC....or why

I cannot ping your
> > PC.
> >
> > What are you trying to do?
> >
> > "Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > > Hi,
> > > I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the

following config.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 -->

PC2 --> Ethernet
> > Switch
> > >
> > >
> > > PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
> > > Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp)

(SSID:foobar channel:11)
> > > PC2 : 192.168.0.112
> > > Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp)

(SSID:foobar channel:11)
> > >
> > > from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I

have to do?

the connect the two routers LAN to LAN effectively using
them as Access points.

P.


 
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Ron Bandes
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      05-17-2004, 01:46 AM
Do you have PC2 and the Ethernet switch reversed in your diagram, or do you
really have 2 NICs in PC2?

You don't show which jacks are being used. Is it like this:
PC1 ----- LANjack1--router1--LANjack2 ----- WANjack--router2--LANjack -----
Switch ----- PC2 ?
If you are using the WAN jack on just one router, then you have 2 networks.
If you are connecting the 2 WAN jacks together, then you have 3 networks.
If you aren't using either of the WAN jacks, then you have only 1 network
and your addressing scheme should be working. Since it isn't working, I
assume that the last setup isn't yours.

Each network needs its own network address. Assuming a subnet mask of
255.255.255.0, then one network could be 192.168.0.x, while another could be
192.168.1.x. Every host on a network must have a host address that conforms
to the network address of the host's network.

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

"Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> Hi,
> I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the following config.
>
>
>
> PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 --> PC2 --> Ethernet

Switch
>
>
> PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
> Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> PC2 : 192.168.0.112
> Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
>
> from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I have to do?
>
> MAP



 
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Jim Orfanakos
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      05-17-2004, 09:28 AM
Please define "access". File Sharing? FTP? HTTP? E-Mail? Web?

You basically have two LANs with a firewall / NAT protecting each LAN. What
you are trying to do is the exact opposite functionality that the wireless
router provides.

Are these two LANS in the same building? Do you need two diff LANS? are
you trying to bridge two LANS? Networks? Buildings?

Please detail your setup, and what you are trying to do in more detail.


"Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> I would like to access PC2 and all the computers in that LAN from PC1
>
> "Jim Orfanakos" <jim@-nospam-orfanakos.com> wrote in message

news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > If both wireless routers are configured as routers - then they are

working
> > correctly and PC1 and PC2 will never ping each other.
> >
> > You have basically setup two private networks, each behind a router,

that
> > happen to have the same TCP/IP addressing scheme. Your setup is such

that
> > this is the same reason you cannot ping my PC....or why I cannot ping

your
> > PC.
> >
> > What are you trying to do?
> >
> > "Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > > Hi,
> > > I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the following config.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 --> PC2 --> Ethernet

> > Switch
> > >
> > >
> > > PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
> > > Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> > > PC2 : 192.168.0.112
> > > Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> > >
> > > from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I have to do?
> > >
> > > MAP



 
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Leiv
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      05-20-2004, 07:29 AM
yes PC2 is a router itself with 3 NICs.
My objective is to have all the computers in 1 LAN. Ideally I thought
that the wireless routers could act as ethernet hubs/switch (but
wirelessly), so anything connected to it is in the same network. It's
possible to do that? How?

Thanks

Leiv

"Ron Bandes" <RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> wrote in message news:<WPUpc.22788$(E-Mail Removed) et>...
> Do you have PC2 and the Ethernet switch reversed in your diagram, or do you
> really have 2 NICs in PC2?
>
> You don't show which jacks are being used. Is it like this:
> PC1 ----- LANjack1--router1--LANjack2 ----- WANjack--router2--LANjack -----
> Switch ----- PC2 ?
> If you are using the WAN jack on just one router, then you have 2 networks.
> If you are connecting the 2 WAN jacks together, then you have 3 networks.
> If you aren't using either of the WAN jacks, then you have only 1 network
> and your addressing scheme should be working. Since it isn't working, I
> assume that the last setup isn't yours.
>
> Each network needs its own network address. Assuming a subnet mask of
> 255.255.255.0, then one network could be 192.168.0.x, while another could be
> 192.168.1.x. Every host on a network must have a host address that conforms
> to the network address of the host's network.
>
> Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
>
> "Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > Hi,
> > I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the following config.
> >
> >
> >
> > PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 --> PC2 --> Ethernet

> Switch
> >
> >
> > PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
> > Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> > PC2 : 192.168.0.112
> > Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> >
> > from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I have to do?
> >
> > MAP

 
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DaveC
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      05-20-2004, 05:50 PM
On Thu, 20 May 2004 00:29:01 -0700, Leiv wrote
(in article <(E-Mail Removed)>) :

> yes PC2 is a router itself with 3 NICs.
> My objective is to have all the computers in 1 LAN. Ideally I thought
> that the wireless routers could act as ethernet hubs/switch (but
> wirelessly), so anything connected to it is in the same network. It's
> possible to do that? How?


If I understand, you are trying to bridge the gap between the 2 routers.

You need a wireless bridge. Your 2 routers are in AP mode. In this mode, they
can communicate only with clients (wireless cards in computers, etc.), but
not another AP.

Only a bridge can communicate with an AP.

Senao makes a very flexible product. It can operate in AP mode or Bridge
mode, and the transmit power (~200mW) is among the highest:

http://tinyurl.com/ywbrs

Good luck,
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Ron Bandes
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      05-21-2004, 01:14 AM
It is possible, desirable, and usual to have all your computers in one LAN.
But the broadband modem can't be in that LAN. So one of your devices must
have 2 NICs and connect to the LAN with one and to the broadband modem with
the other. That device could be a dedicated router, or it could be a
computer in the role of a router (such as a computer running ICS).

Is there an internet connection in your planned configuration, or are you
just trying to wirelessly bridge two wired Ethernets together? If it's the
latter, try this:
Wired-LAN-1 ----- LANjack--router1 ))) ((( router2--LANjack -----
Wired-LAN-2

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

"Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> yes PC2 is a router itself with 3 NICs.
> My objective is to have all the computers in 1 LAN. Ideally I thought
> that the wireless routers could act as ethernet hubs/switch (but
> wirelessly), so anything connected to it is in the same network. It's
> possible to do that? How?
>
> Thanks
>
> Leiv
>
> "Ron Bandes" <RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> wrote in message

news:<WPUpc.22788$(E-Mail Removed) et>...
> > Do you have PC2 and the Ethernet switch reversed in your diagram, or do

you
> > really have 2 NICs in PC2?
> >
> > You don't show which jacks are being used. Is it like this:
> > PC1 ----- LANjack1--router1--LANjack2 -----

WANjack--router2--LANjack -----
> > Switch ----- PC2 ?
> > If you are using the WAN jack on just one router, then you have 2

networks.
> > If you are connecting the 2 WAN jacks together, then you have 3

networks.
> > If you aren't using either of the WAN jacks, then you have only 1

network
> > and your addressing scheme should be working. Since it isn't working, I
> > assume that the last setup isn't yours.
> >
> > Each network needs its own network address. Assuming a subnet mask of
> > 255.255.255.0, then one network could be 192.168.0.x, while another

could be
> > 192.168.1.x. Every host on a network must have a host address that

conforms
> > to the network address of the host's network.
> >
> > Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
> >
> > "Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > > Hi,
> > > I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the following config.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 --> PC2 --> Ethernet

> > Switch
> > >
> > >
> > > PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
> > > Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> > > PC2 : 192.168.0.112
> > > Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar channel:11)
> > >
> > > from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I have to do?
> > >
> > > MAP



 
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      05-21-2004, 01:19 AM
You'll need to put the routers into Wireless Bridge mode. Many routers and
access-points can do this, but it's not possible if they're different
brands. This feature depends on something called Wireless Distribution
System (WDS). There is no standard yet for WDS (802.11F is in the works),
so mixed brands don't work yet.

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

"Ron Bandes" <RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> wrote in message
news:PJcrc.109190$(E-Mail Removed). net...
> It is possible, desirable, and usual to have all your computers in one

LAN.
> But the broadband modem can't be in that LAN. So one of your devices must
> have 2 NICs and connect to the LAN with one and to the broadband modem

with
> the other. That device could be a dedicated router, or it could be a
> computer in the role of a router (such as a computer running ICS).
>
> Is there an internet connection in your planned configuration, or are you
> just trying to wirelessly bridge two wired Ethernets together? If it's

the
> latter, try this:
> Wired-LAN-1 ----- LANjack--router1 ))) ((( router2--LANjack -----
> Wired-LAN-2
>
> Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
>
> "Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > yes PC2 is a router itself with 3 NICs.
> > My objective is to have all the computers in 1 LAN. Ideally I thought
> > that the wireless routers could act as ethernet hubs/switch (but
> > wirelessly), so anything connected to it is in the same network. It's
> > possible to do that? How?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Leiv
> >
> > "Ron Bandes" <RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> wrote in message

> news:<WPUpc.22788$(E-Mail Removed) et>...
> > > Do you have PC2 and the Ethernet switch reversed in your diagram, or

do
> you
> > > really have 2 NICs in PC2?
> > >
> > > You don't show which jacks are being used. Is it like this:
> > > PC1 ----- LANjack1--router1--LANjack2 -----

> WANjack--router2--LANjack -----
> > > Switch ----- PC2 ?
> > > If you are using the WAN jack on just one router, then you have 2

> networks.
> > > If you are connecting the 2 WAN jacks together, then you have 3

> networks.
> > > If you aren't using either of the WAN jacks, then you have only 1

> network
> > > and your addressing scheme should be working. Since it isn't working,

I
> > > assume that the last setup isn't yours.
> > >
> > > Each network needs its own network address. Assuming a subnet mask of
> > > 255.255.255.0, then one network could be 192.168.0.x, while another

> could be
> > > 192.168.1.x. Every host on a network must have a host address that

> conforms
> > > to the network address of the host's network.
> > >
> > > Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
> > >
> > > "Leiv" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have 2 netgear wgt624 wireless routers and the following config.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PC1 --> Wireless router 1 --> Wireless router 2 --> PC2 --> Ethernet
> > > Switch
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PC1 : has 192.168.0.102
> > > > Wireless router 1 : 192.168.0.101 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar

channel:11)
> > > > PC2 : 192.168.0.112
> > > > Wireless router 2 : 192.168.0.111 (not dhcp) (SSID:foobar

channel:11)
> > > >
> > > > from PC1 I cannot ping wireless router 2 ....What I have to do?
> > > >
> > > > MAP

>
>



 
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