How to connect 2 Wired Networks

I have 2 wired networks at home: 1 in the basement that connects to
the Internet via a Cable Modem; 1 on the 3rd floor where a number of
desktops are wired.

I want the computers on the 3rd floor to use the Internet connection
in the basement. I bought 2 wireless routers, USR8054, but have no
idea of what to configure them to achieve the goal.

Does anybody have some experience how to do this? Or, I need to
purchase more hardware? Btw, I have 2 wired routers as well. Any input
will be highly appreciated!


Peter

Peter Wu wrote:

> I have 2 wired networks at home: 1 in the basement that connects to
> the Internet via a Cable Modem; 1 on the 3rd floor where a number of
> desktops are wired.
>
> I want the computers on the 3rd floor to use the Internet connection
> in the basement. I bought 2 wireless routers, USR8054, but have no
> idea of what to configure them to achieve the goal.
>
> Does anybody have some experience how to do this? Or, I need to
> purchase more hardware? Btw, I have 2 wired routers as well. Any input
> will be highly appreciated!
>
>
> Peter

What's the two of everything for?

You're best solution is to make the wired router the gateway device and
configure the wireless router to be an access point switch. That way, the
wired and wireless will use the same gateway device and if done properly,
all machines should be able to share resources between each other too.

The Linksys link gives a good working model, even though it's referring to
two wireless routers. You'll set the Device IP of the wireless routers to
one of the static IP(s) on the wired router with Subnet IP(s) the same so
that machines connected to both devices can see each other.

http://www.linksys.com/support/top10...54g/Connecting two WRT54G
routers together.asp

Duane

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Peter Wu wrote:
>
> > I have 2 wired networks at home: 1 in the basement that connects to
> > the Internet via a Cable Modem; 1 on the 3rd floor where a number of
> > desktops are wired.
> >
> > I want the computers on the 3rd floor to use the Internet connection
> > in the basement. I bought 2 wireless routers, USR8054, but have no
> > idea of what to configure them to achieve the goal.
> >
> > Does anybody have some experience how to do this? Or, I need to
> > purchase more hardware? Btw, I have 2 wired routers as well. Any input
> > will be highly appreciated!
> >
> >
> > Peter
>
> What's the two of everything for?
>
> You're best solution is to make the wired router the gateway device and
> configure the wireless router to be an access point switch. That way, the
> wired and wireless will use the same gateway device and if done properly,
> all machines should be able to share resources between each other too.
>
> The Linksys link gives a good working model, even though it's referring to
> two wireless routers. You'll set the Device IP of the wireless routers to
> one of the static IP(s) on the wired router with Subnet IP(s) the same so
> that machines connected to both devices can see each other.
>
> http://www.linksys.com/support/top10...54g/Connecting two WRT54G
> routers together.asp
>
> Duane

Why bother with the wired router?

I don't see that the USR8054 can behave like a wireless Ethernet bridge,
which is what you need on the 3rd floor. You'll need an AP or an actual
wireless Ethernet bridge device there. The wireless router and the wireless
Ethernet bridge need to be the same brand, since there is not yet a standard
for Wireless Distribution System.

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

Duane Arnold <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Peter Wu wrote:
>
> > I have 2 wired networks at home: 1 in the basement that connects to
> > the Internet via a Cable Modem; 1 on the 3rd floor where a number of
> > desktops are wired.
> >
> > I want the computers on the 3rd floor to use the Internet connection
> > in the basement. I bought 2 wireless routers, USR8054, but have no
> > idea of what to configure them to achieve the goal.
> >
> > Does anybody have some experience how to do this? Or, I need to
> > purchase more hardware? Btw, I have 2 wired routers as well. Any input
> > will be highly appreciated!
> >
> >
> > Peter
>
> What's the two of everything for?
>
> You're best solution is to make the wired router the gateway device and
> configure the wireless router to be an access point switch. That way, the
> wired and wireless will use the same gateway device and if done properly,
> all machines should be able to share resources between each other too.
>
> The Linksys link gives a good working model, even though it's referring to
> two wireless routers. You'll set the Device IP of the wireless routers to
> one of the static IP(s) on the wired router with Subnet IP(s) the same so
> that machines connected to both devices can see each other.
>
> http://www.linksys.com/support/top10...54g/Connecting two WRT54G
> routers together.asp
>
> Duane

Thanks for the link, Duane!

However, it requires a physical link between the 2 wireless routers.
Can we not use a wired connection between 2 wireless routers/APs?
Thanks!!


Peter

"Ron Bandes" <RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> wrote:

[snip]

> I don't see that the USR8054 can behave like a wireless Ethernet bridge,
> which is what you need on the 3rd floor. You'll need an AP or an actual
> wireless Ethernet bridge device there. The wireless router and the
wireless
> Ethernet bridge need to be the same brand, since there is not yet a
standard
> for Wireless Distribution System.

The USR8054 can be configured as an AP. But what should I do to achieve this
goal?

Peter

> The USR8054 can be configured as an AP. But what should I do to achiev
> this goal
>
> Peter Realizing this is my 1st post...bump, because I'm looking for th
answer to this myself

Peter: have you found your answer? I'm looking for specific USR805
configuration settings to use it as an access point. Please se
'_here_' (http://rachus.home.insightbb.com/pages/net_topo.JPG) for m
network

After trying some typical configurations, my questions are



- Do I need to set up static routes on the USR8054
- ...or set up port forwarding
- I'm using the wireless side of the USR8054 to route wireles
traffic to the Internet gateway router (the Linksys), can I also us
wireless cards in computers on it's side of the network? As you se
I'm using a 802.11b connection to the Linksys, can I use 802.11g o
the USR8054 for NIC's on that side of the network?) -- -long shot,
know-
Thanks for reading

--
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"rachus" wrote in message
>
> > The USR8054 can be configured as an AP. But what should I do to
achieve
> > this goal?
> >
> > Peter Realizing this is my 1st post...bump, because I'm looking
for the
> answer to this myself.
>
> Peter: have you found your answer? I'm looking for specific USR8054
> configuration settings to use it as an access point. Please see
> '_here_' (http://rachus.home.insightbb.com/pages/net_topo.JPG) for
my
> network.
>
> After trying some typical configurations, my questions are:
>
>
>
>
> - Do I need to set up static routes on the USR8054?
> - ...or set up port forwarding?
> - I'm using the wireless side of the USR8054 to route wireless
> traffic to the Internet gateway router (the Linksys), can I also
use
> wireless cards in computers on it's side of the network? As you
see
> I'm using a 802.11b connection to the Linksys, can I use 802.11g
on
> the USR8054 for NIC's on that side of the network?) -- -long shot,
I
> know-.
> Thanks for reading!
>
>
> --
> rachus
> brought to you by http://www.wifi-forum.com/

If I read this right, you want the USR to talk to the Linksys
wireless. It appears they both operate in AP mode only.
This means that they cant talk to each other wireless but only talk to
clients. If the Linksys feeds the USR via wire,
then you can set up a B network and a G network using different SSIDs.
















>

Thanks Airhead, but the two routers cannot be connected via a cable
they are approximately 200 meters apart (using external antennas)...

I think I've found the answer, and it is not good...

http://www.usr.com/support/8054/8054...Wirelesssectio

"For *AP Only*, you can select either *Enable* or *Disable*.
If you select Enable, only the wireless functionality of the Wireless
Turbo Access Point & Router will be active. The wire
functionality will not be active. This is set to Disable b
default.

I'm disappointed in USR's misuse of the phrase "Access Point". Se
Webopedia's 'definition' (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/AP.html). '
(http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/AP.html

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"rachus" <rachus.1gwftm@WiFi-Forum_dot_com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks Airhead, but the two routers cannot be connected via a cable,
> they are approximately 200 meters apart (using external
antennas)....
>
> I think I've found the answer, and it is not good....
>
>
> http://www.usr.com/support/8054/8054...irelesssection
>
> "For *AP Only*, you can select either *Enable* or *Disable*.
> If you select Enable, only the wireless functionality of the
Wireless
> Turbo Access Point & Router will be active. The wired
> functionality will not be active. This is set to Disable by
> default."
>
> I'm disappointed in USR's misuse of the phrase "Access Point". See
> Webopedia's 'definition' (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/AP.html).
''
> (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/AP.html)
>
>
> --
> rachus
> brought to you by http://www.wifi-forum.com/
>

Even if you set the USR to AP only it still wont talk to the Linksys.
You need to get a Bridge or an AP that will run in client mode or a
repeater to talk to the linksys.
You can use the USR wirlessly and router but you need to hook a bridge
on it (on a different channel) and configure it
to talk to the Linksys. You should probably get a linksys bridge just
to be sure of compatability.