Configuring User Level Access Control for W98SE.

IN a workgroup env, i have a windows 98 machine, and a windows xp machine. As
im configuring W98 machine to enable remote wmi connections, i need to set
the access control to user level access control.
I tried to specify the windows xp machine name as my security provider, but
i get the error msg “Windows could not find the specified security provider
on the network. Do you want to use this name anyway?�

I can ping the W98 machine from the XP machine.

Thanks!

Charles

In article <5ED547F5-45B7-4955-9C19-(E-Mail Removed)>,
Charleshu <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>IN a workgroup env, i have a windows 98 machine, and a windows xp machine. As
>im configuring W98 machine to enable remote wmi connections, i need to set
>the access control to user level access control.
>I tried to specify the windows xp machine name as my security provider, but
>i get the error msg “Windows could not find the specified security provider
>on the network. Do you want to use this name anyway?”
>
>I can ping the W98 machine from the XP machine.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Charles

I'm sorry, but user-level access control isn't possible with Windows
XP and Windows 98. It requires a computer running a server operating
system (e.g. Windows NT/2000 Server).
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Steve,
Is my thinking wrong in that I have assumed that user-level access control
would be more secure under any environment??

Norman
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <5ED547F5-45B7-4955-9C19-(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Charleshu <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >IN a workgroup env, i have a windows 98 machine, and a windows xp
machine. As
> >im configuring W98 machine to enable remote wmi connections, i need to
set
> >the access control to user level access control.
> >I tried to specify the windows xp machine name as my security provider,
but
> >i get the error msg "Windows could not find the specified security
provider
> >on the network. Do you want to use this name anyway?"
> >
> >I can ping the W98 machine from the XP machine.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Charles
>
> I'm sorry, but user-level access control isn't possible with Windows
> XP and Windows 98. It requires a computer running a server operating
> system (e.g. Windows NT/2000 Server).
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "E_Net_Rider"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>IN a workgroup env, i have a windows 98 machine, and a windows xp machine. As
>>>im configuring W98 machine to enable remote wmi connections, i need to set
>>>the access control to user level access control.
>>>I tried to specify the windows xp machine name as my security provider, but
>>>i get the error msg “Windows could not find the specified security provider
>>>on the network. Do you want to use this name anyway?”
>>>
>>>I can ping the W98 machine from the XP machine.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Charles
>>
>>I'm sorry, but user-level access control isn't possible with Windows
>>XP and Windows 98. It requires a computer running a server operating
>>system (e.g. Windows NT/2000 Server).
>Steve,
>
>Is my thinking wrong in that I have assumed that user-level access control
>would be more secure under any environment??

User-level access control (in a domain with a server computer) lets
specify which user accounts can access a shared resource and what type
of access they may have.

Share-level access control (in a workgroup) lets you specify a
password that anyone who wants to access a shared resource must know.
You can create different passwords for read-only access and full
access. If you change the password, you have to give the new password
to everyone who should have access.

So, user-level gives more control and is easier to manage.

I don't know of any environment in which both types of access control
are available.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

You sort of side stepped my question. I had already read most of these
details but it sounds different hearing it from you.
Are you also saying that if you are running a NT type environment (server)
that you have to use user level or is it that you wouldn't want a mixed
environment.
My original question of security may have stemmed from hearing NT, etc was
more secure. Is that true? The fact that control is maintained from a
central point would add some security, but I was thinking from external
intrusions upon your environment.
Seems you can't get enough security these days.
Norman

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, "E_Net_Rider"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>IN a workgroup env, i have a windows 98 machine, and a windows xp
machine. As
> >>>im configuring W98 machine to enable remote wmi connections, i need to
set
> >>>the access control to user level access control.
> >>>I tried to specify the windows xp machine name as my security provider,
but
> >>>i get the error msg "Windows could not find the specified security
provider
> >>>on the network. Do you want to use this name anyway?"
> >>>
> >>>I can ping the W98 machine from the XP machine.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>Charles
> >>
> >>I'm sorry, but user-level access control isn't possible with Windows
> >>XP and Windows 98. It requires a computer running a server operating
> >>system (e.g. Windows NT/2000 Server).
> >Steve,
> >
> >Is my thinking wrong in that I have assumed that user-level access
control
> >would be more secure under any environment??
>
> User-level access control (in a domain with a server computer) lets
> specify which user accounts can access a shared resource and what type
> of access they may have.
>
> Share-level access control (in a workgroup) lets you specify a
> password that anyone who wants to access a shared resource must know.
> You can create different passwords for read-only access and full
> access. If you change the password, you have to give the new password
> to everyone who should have access.
>
> So, user-level gives more control and is easier to manage.
>
> I don't know of any environment in which both types of access control
> are available.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm