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Gary
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      04-07-2005, 01:25 PM
I have two domains (1 Windows 2003 and 1 NT4) - no trust
between them. I need to be able to browse machines on both
domains. How can this be setup? There is a firewall/NAT
device between them and I have permitted tcp/udp ports 137-
139 and 445. Is there anything else required?

Many thanks
 
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      04-07-2005, 01:33 PM
Establishing trust between the two sides is important step in order to make
both sides able to browse the other side.

-Raise the functional level of the forest in the win2k3 domain to mixed mode
in wich you can run both win2k3 and NT doamins, initiate a trust between both
domain.

"Gary" wrote:

> I have two domains (1 Windows 2003 and 1 NT4) - no trust
> between them. I need to be able to browse machines on both
> domains. How can this be setup? There is a firewall/NAT
> device between them and I have permitted tcp/udp ports 137-
> 139 and 445. Is there anything else required?
>
> Many thanks
>

 
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      04-07-2005, 02:45 PM
Hi,

"Zer0byte" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> Establishing trust between the two sides is important step in order to

make
> both sides able to browse the other side.


Actually trusts have little to do with the actual enumeration
of the browse list. When it comes time to *access* the
domain resorces you can talk about trusts. <g>

>
> -Raise the functional level of the forest in the win2k3 domain to mixed

mode
> in wich you can run both win2k3 and NT doamins, initiate a trust between

both
> domain.


This has nothing to do with cross domain trust relationships. The
functional levels pertain to DCs only.


 
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Michael Giorgio - MS MVP
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      04-07-2005, 02:47 PM
You'll need WINS or lmhosts. Have a look at the following
MS KB article which explains the browsing process:

Domain Browsing with TCP/IP and LMHOSTS Files
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;150800

"Gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> I have two domains (1 Windows 2003 and 1 NT4) - no trust
> between them. I need to be able to browse machines on both
> domains. How can this be setup? There is a firewall/NAT
> device between them and I have permitted tcp/udp ports 137-
> 139 and 445. Is there anything else required?



 
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      04-10-2005, 06:35 AM
Hi,

If they were DCs? doesnt they need a trust relationship in order they can
communicate, also doesnt the browsing using lmhosts file needs a trust
relation. in case if they were DCs?

"Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" wrote:

> You'll need WINS or lmhosts. Have a look at the following
> MS KB article which explains the browsing process:
>
> Domain Browsing with TCP/IP and LMHOSTS Files
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;150800
>
> "Gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> > I have two domains (1 Windows 2003 and 1 NT4) - no trust
> > between them. I need to be able to browse machines on both
> > domains. How can this be setup? There is a firewall/NAT
> > device between them and I have permitted tcp/udp ports 137-
> > 139 and 445. Is there anything else required?

>
>
>

 
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Bill Grant
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      04-11-2005, 12:34 AM
As Michael said, browsing has nothing to do with domain trusts. You can
see the domain browse list even if you are not on the domain (eg workgroup
members can see the domain browse list and vice versa).

The browse list depends on Netbios names and LAN broadcasts. To browse
across routers or WAN links which block broadcasts you need WINS or LMHOSTS
and at least one domain controller. Browsing is independent of domain (or
any other) credentials, so domain trusts don't come into it at all. It only
depends on the Netbios name of the machine and of the workgroup/domain.

Zer0byte wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If they were DCs? doesnt they need a trust relationship in order they
> can communicate, also doesnt the browsing using lmhosts file needs a
> trust relation. in case if they were DCs?
>
> "Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" wrote:
>
>> You'll need WINS or lmhosts. Have a look at the following
>> MS KB article which explains the browsing process:
>>
>> Domain Browsing with TCP/IP and LMHOSTS Files
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;150800
>>
>> "Gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
>>> I have two domains (1 Windows 2003 and 1 NT4) - no trust
>>> between them. I need to be able to browse machines on both
>>> domains. How can this be setup? There is a firewall/NAT
>>> device between them and I have permitted tcp/udp ports 137-
>>> 139 and 445. Is there anything else required?



 
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      04-11-2005, 01:54 PM
I am not sure I understand what you are trying to ask?
The trust relationship is about permissions e.g., you have
two sites and two domains, domain A, domain B. A user
from domain A visits domain B and would like to logon to
from domain B. With a trust relationship in place he can
choose domain B from the dropdown list for domains
and logon to the machine. His credentials are passed on
to a domain A DC for authentication. Also, if a domain A
user would like to access domain B's resources his credentials
would be passed back to a domain A for authentication.


"Zer0byte" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
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> If they were DCs? doesnt they need a trust relationship in order they can
> communicate, also doesnt the browsing using lmhosts file needs a trust
> relation. in case if they were DCs?



 
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