Compaq says 802.11b is gone by next month???

I was talking to a compaq rep today on the phone and she told me that
802.11b will be NO MORE by sometime next month? This is in reference to
'hot spots' of course. Personally, I don't believe a word she said.

"SCW" <YouDon'tNeedToE-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I was talking to a compaq rep today on the phone and she told me that
> 802.11b will be NO MORE by sometime next month? This is in reference to
> 'hot spots' of course. Personally, I don't believe a word she said.

What they really meant is why buy a 802.11b card when a 802.11g or
802.11a/b/g card is only a few dollars more? Even if you AP is 11b, why not
buy a card that does it all? So 801.11b only cards are starting to fall out
of favor. It is also why I don't like portables with WiFi hard wired in, as
by that time I might want 802.11i or 802.11h - both of which are on the
drawing boards.

..b will be gone when 10 base is gone.6 years ago when 100 became
readily available most said 10 b is dead well guess what is still
here.




Toady <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 05:34:26 -0400, "SCW"
> <YouDon'tNeedToE-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I was talking to a compaq rep today on the phone and she told me that
> >802.11b will be NO MORE by sometime next month? This is in reference to
> >'hot spots' of course. Personally, I don't believe a word she said.
> >
> I have been in several stores lately looking at what they have
> available. The salespeople seem to be pushing the 11b stuff. If I
> say I'm more interested in 11g they say "what do you need that for?
> It's overkill," or something like that. But 11g is only a few bucks
> more and it includes both standards. I think they want to sell all of
> the 11b stuff to suckers now at close to full price so they don't lose
> money in a few months putting it out on clearance. And they know if
> you buy 11b stuff now you'll be back within a year to upgrade.

I'm confused a bit. I purchased a dual standard a/b card. My
impression was that .a was the hot coming standard. What's up with
this .g and will .g routers or accrss points support the .a standard
also?

On 24 Aug 2003 21:45:15 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (frankjg) wrote:

>.b will be gone when 10 base is gone.6 years ago when 100 became
>readily available most said 10 b is dead well guess what is still
>here.
>
>
>
>
>Toady <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 05:34:26 -0400, "SCW"
>> <YouDon'tNeedToE-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >I was talking to a compaq rep today on the phone and she told me that
>> >802.11b will be NO MORE by sometime next month? This is in reference to
>> >'hot spots' of course. Personally, I don't believe a word she said.
>> >
>> I have been in several stores lately looking at what they have
>> available. The salespeople seem to be pushing the 11b stuff. If I
>> say I'm more interested in 11g they say "what do you need that for?
>> It's overkill," or something like that. But 11g is only a few bucks
>> more and it includes both standards. I think they want to sell all of
>> the 11b stuff to suckers now at close to full price so they don't lose
>> money in a few months putting it out on clearance. And they know if
>> you buy 11b stuff now you'll be back within a year to upgrade.

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:13:52 GMT, George Dean <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I'm confused a bit. I purchased a dual standard a/b card. My
>impression was that .a was the hot coming standard. What's up with
>this .g and will .g routers or accrss points support the .a standard
>also?
>
I don' know that much about 802.11a, but I thought I saw somewhere
that it is a proprietary standard rather than an open standard, and so
it will not have wide acceptance.

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:13:52 GMT, George Dean <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I'm confused a bit. I purchased a dual standard a/b card. My
>impression was that .a was the hot coming standard. What's up with
>this .g and will .g routers or accrss points support the .a standard
>also?
>
This just in:

(Excerpts from http://www.iss.net/wireless/WLAN_FAQ.php)

1] What is the overview of Wireless LAN 802.11 technology?

Wireless LAN technology standard 802.11b has the strongest momentum to
becoming the main standard for corporate internal wireless LAN
networks. The bandwidth of 802.11b is 11 mbits and operates at 2.4 GHz
Frequency. The successor of this current 802.11b standard is 802.11a
and it is designed to be faster speed and operate at a different
frequency. While 802.11a standard and the technology behind it has
become available, 802.11b is still widely used today and many
companies and individuals are deploying it or deploying dual 802.11b
and 802.11a devices.

[1.1] When will 802.11a arrive and how will the security be different
than 802.11b?

Most manufacturers of wireless technologies have come out with 802.11a
technology now. The specifications for the protocols of 802.11a are
very similar to 802.11b, therefore many of the security risks are
shared for both 802.11a and 802.11b. Many of the security issues
around 802.11b will continue to be an issue with 802.11a, therefore by
understanding current issues will help organizations deal with future
issues as well.

The 802.11b standard will be with us for some time in pubilc and
private hot spots.

..11a and .11g standards both support a much higher data transfer rate.
However, the market seems to be leaning much more in favor of g than
a.

So, if you use and like your a equiptment at home and don't need to
access any g hot spots then there is no reason to worry.

-D

George Dean <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> I'm confused a bit. I purchased a dual standard a/b card. My
> impression was that .a was the hot coming standard. What's up with
> this .g and will .g routers or accrss points support the .a standard
> also?

I sure this is a mistake. They probably meant that "they" (Compaq) would be
gone by next month !!
campbell

Matthias Lumala <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

: "Toady" <(E-Mail Removed)> a ?crit dans le message news:
: (E-Mail Removed)...
: > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 05:34:26 -0400, "SCW"
: > <YouDon'tNeedToE-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: >
: > >I was talking to a compaq rep today on the phone and she told me that
: > >802.11b will be NO MORE by sometime next month? This is in reference to
: > >'hot spots' of course. Personally, I don't believe a word she said.
: > >
: > I have been in several stores lately looking at what they have
: > available. The salespeople seem to be pushing the 11b stuff. If I
: > say I'm more interested in 11g they say "what do you need that for?
: > It's overkill," or something like that. But 11g is only a few bucks
: > more and it includes both standards. I think they want to sell all of
: > the 11b stuff to suckers now at close to full price so they don't lose
: > money in a few months putting it out on clearance. And they know if
: > you buy 11b stuff now you'll be back within a year to upgrade.
: Not necessarily; If one use wifi mainly for internet access I don't see why
: they should upgrade given that good working wifi (>>1Mb) is faster than
: broadband (<1Mb).
: As long as the broadband bottleneck is not removed there is no point
: upgrading to higher wifi speeds.
: Of course if wireless is adopted in order to replace existing ethernet
: networks(file and printer sharing) then it's important to upgrade.

I can see 802.11g speeds being useful for doing things like backing up
a harddrive to a DVD-RW via your network. It will be a lot slower
with 802.11b.

Andrew
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:31:24 +0200, "Matthias Lumala"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"Toady" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message news:
>(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 05:34:26 -0400, "SCW"
>> <YouDon'tNeedToE-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >I was talking to a compaq rep today on the phone and she told me that
>> >802.11b will be NO MORE by sometime next month? This is in reference to
>> >'hot spots' of course. Personally, I don't believe a word she said.
>> >
>> I have been in several stores lately looking at what they have
>> available. The salespeople seem to be pushing the 11b stuff. If I
>> say I'm more interested in 11g they say "what do you need that for?
>> It's overkill," or something like that. But 11g is only a few bucks
>> more and it includes both standards. I think they want to sell all of
>> the 11b stuff to suckers now at close to full price so they don't lose
>> money in a few months putting it out on clearance. And they know if
>> you buy 11b stuff now you'll be back within a year to upgrade.
>Not necessarily; If one use wifi mainly for internet access I don't see why
>they should upgrade given that good working wifi (>>1Mb) is faster than
>broadband (<1Mb).
>As long as the broadband bottleneck is not removed there is no point
>upgrading to higher wifi speeds.

Good point.

>Of course if wireless is adopted in order to replace existing ethernet
>networks(file and printer sharing) then it's important to upgrade.
>
>