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Gordon
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      06-24-2006, 03:30 PM
Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
I can buy a short piece of coax to let me move the antenna on my
wife's computer out of the shadows?

Her computer is located in a cubby hole in the hallway, and the
CPU has to be oriented such that the Linksys WIreless-G WMP54G
PCI Adapter is in the shadow of the CPU box, relative to the
WI-FI Access Point.

I want to buy a short piece of coax cable with terminals that
will fit this Wi-Fi adapter and let me place the antenna above
the CPU box. I could locate it in the shelves above her computer,
and hopefully get a much stronger signal level to/from the Access
Point.

Do I need a coax cable with RP-TNC terminals or is this not
compatible with the Linksys adapter?
 
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Curly Bill
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      06-24-2006, 05:56 PM


> Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
> I can buy a short piece of coax


> Do I need a coax cable with RP-TNC terminals or is this not
> compatible with the Linksys adapter?


There is a thread titled "Cheap wifi antennas" on 6/19/06 that you should go
back to read, that card has a RP-SMA connector.
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/cab...pgType=rp-smaI like panel antannas because they are directional.http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/antennas_2400_in.php

 
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      06-24-2006, 06:10 PM
Gordon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
> I can buy a short piece of coax to let me move the antenna on my
> wife's computer out of the shadows?


A few. I find http://www.hyperlinktech.com has nice listings, but a
minimum $100 order. Look under Cables & Pigtails.

http://www.fab-corp.com/ sells at retail, and might be able to help you
identify the antenna that you need.

> Her computer is located in a cubby hole in the hallway, and the
> CPU has to be oriented such that the Linksys WIreless-G WMP54G
> PCI Adapter is in the shadow of the CPU box, relative to the
> WI-FI Access Point.


An astute observation for a common situation. I would say that's RP-SMA, a
very common connector.

A few people have done that with some success. Someone added a reflector
to the stock antenna at the same time:
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/glo...gnet/info.html
Jeff Liebermann suggests that there is something not quite right with this
photo, but the concept is good. The antenna here is an EZ-10 from
http://www.freeantennas.com. (I would have used the EZ-12, myself)
http://www.rahul.net/dold/clarence/EZ12-windsurfer.jpg

But, oddly enough, for the price of the chunk of cable, you might be able
to buy a directional antenna. I have used the "Hawking HAI6SDA Directional
6dBi 2.4GHz Antenna" with good success on a Netgear WG311 PCI card.
$20-30.
<http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=32&FamID=58&ProdID=122>
The one I bought fit the Netgear, and had an adapter that fit RP-TNC.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
 
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Curly Bill
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      06-24-2006, 06:19 PM

"Curly Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
>> Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
>> I can buy a short piece of coax

>
>> Do I need a coax cable with RP-TNC terminals or is this not
>> compatible with the Linksys adapter?

>
> There is a thread titled "Cheap wifi antennas" on 6/19/06 that you should
> go back to read, that card has a RP-SMA connector.
> http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/cab...pgType=rp-smaI
> like panel antannas because they are
> directional.http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/antennas_2400_in.php
>


Sorry, the spacing in the above links made the links unuseable. I will
repost

There is a thread titled "Cheap wifi antennas" on 6/19/06 that you should go
back to read, that card has a RP-SMA connector.
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/cab...&pgType=rp-sma

I like panel antannas because they are directional.
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/antennas_2400_in.php



 
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      06-24-2006, 07:34 PM
Gordon <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
>I can buy a short piece of coax to let me move the antenna on my
>wife's computer out of the shadows?


Sure. It's called a coax "jumper".

See:
http://www.fab-corp.com/home.php?cat=249
http://www.wlanparts.com/c=7LAEdsyLb...tegory/cables/
Oops. No RP-TNC to RP-TNC jumper.
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/cable_feed.php

You'll need to decide what length cable you need, and what diameter
coax is appropriate. A good rule of thumb is that 6dB coax loss is
good for cutting your range in half. Roughly, the losses for common
small diameter coax cables are:
Coax loss/ft
RG-174 .75
RG-316 .38
LMR-100 .23
LMR-240 .13
I would keep the total attenuation down below 3dB if possible.

>I want to buy a short piece of coax cable with terminals that
>will fit this Wi-Fi adapter and let me place the antenna above
>the CPU box.


As Clarence Dold suggested, you can get a better directional antenna
with coax cable extension, for about the price of just the extension.
The stock rubber ducky antenna is NOT a very wonderful antenna (2dBi
gain at best). For a fixed location pointing at one access point,
directional antennas are always a better idea.

>Do I need a coax cable with RP-TNC terminals or is this not
>compatible with the Linksys adapter?


Linksys uses RP-TNC for their access points. However, the WMP54G PCI
card uses RP-SMA to conserve space. Therefore, you need need either
an RP-SMA extension cable, or a replacement antenna plus cable.

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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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      06-25-2006, 08:18 AM

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Gordon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
>> I can buy a short piece of coax to let me move the antenna on my
>> wife's computer out of the shadows?

>
> A few. I find http://www.hyperlinktech.com has nice listings, but a
> minimum $100 order. Look under Cables & Pigtails.
>
> http://www.fab-corp.com/ sells at retail, and might be able to help you
> identify the antenna that you need.
>
>> Her computer is located in a cubby hole in the hallway, and the
>> CPU has to be oriented such that the Linksys WIreless-G WMP54G
>> PCI Adapter is in the shadow of the CPU box, relative to the
>> WI-FI Access Point.

>
> An astute observation for a common situation. I would say that's RP-SMA,
> a
> very common connector.
>
> A few people have done that with some success. Someone added a reflector
> to the stock antenna at the same time:
> http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/glo...gnet/info.html
> Jeff Liebermann suggests that there is something not quite right with this
> photo, but the concept is good. The antenna here is an EZ-10 from
> http://www.freeantennas.com. (I would have used the EZ-12, myself)
> http://www.rahul.net/dold/clarence/EZ12-windsurfer.jpg
>
> But, oddly enough, for the price of the chunk of cable, you might be able
> to buy a directional antenna. I have used the "Hawking HAI6SDA
> Directional
> 6dBi 2.4GHz Antenna" with good success on a Netgear WG311 PCI card.
> $20-30.
> <http://www.hawkingtech.com/products/productlist.php?CatID=32&FamID=58&ProdID=122>
> The one I bought fit the Netgear, and had an adapter that fit RP-TNC.
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5


I bought one a hawking antenna this weekend on sale for 10 bucks at Fry's
(normally 20) . It raised the signal strength from 2 bars to 5. I was
amazed. Of course ymmv.

Dennis


 
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      06-25-2006, 08:31 AM
Gordon wrote:
> Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
> I can buy a short piece of coax to let me move the antenna on my
> wife's computer out of the shadows?
>
> Her computer is located in a cubby hole in the hallway, and the
> CPU has to be oriented such that the Linksys WIreless-G WMP54G
> PCI Adapter is in the shadow of the CPU box, relative to the
> WI-FI Access Point.
>
> I want to buy a short piece of coax cable with terminals that
> will fit this Wi-Fi adapter and let me place the antenna above
> the CPU box. I could locate it in the shelves above her computer,
> and hopefully get a much stronger signal level to/from the Access
> Point.
>
> Do I need a coax cable with RP-TNC terminals or is this not
> compatible with the Linksys adapter?


Linksys have an SMA RP connector on the PCI card, I have a linksys
WMP54GS myself. Try the antenna base from here:
http://www.wifi-antenna.co.uk/

If you can mount the router away from walls (inc stud) you should be OK.

My PC is tucked into a little cubby and I had a signal strenth of
between 38% and 54%. I bought one myself and the signal improved by
over 1/3 and I typically got 68% - 78%. Cable is 1m long but they dose
cable by the meter as well.

Service is excellent BTW and he sells antenna as well if you want to
upgrade.

I have a WRT54GS router and upgrading the firmware made a lot of
difference. I use channel 13 (prev had 11 channels) and get mid 90s
reception. I don't use the linksys software, XP manages the connection
and I find I have almost no breaks in the connestion. With he linksys
drivers I would have short breaks in the connestion which were annoying.
It seemed to be renewing the association with the router when the
connection was idle.

Mike
 
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      06-25-2006, 08:03 PM
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:30:06 GMT, Gordon
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
>I can buy a short piece of coax to let me move the antenna on my
>wife's computer out of the shadows?
>
>Her computer is located in a cubby hole in the hallway, and the
>CPU has to be oriented such that the Linksys WIreless-G WMP54G
>PCI Adapter is in the shadow of the CPU box, relative to the
>WI-FI Access Point.
>
>I want to buy a short piece of coax cable with terminals that
>will fit this Wi-Fi adapter and let me place the antenna above
>the CPU box. I could locate it in the shelves above her computer,
>and hopefully get a much stronger signal level to/from the Access
>Point.
>
>Do I need a coax cable with RP-TNC terminals or is this not
>compatible with the Linksys adapter?
>

Thanks to all who responded. I bought a 7 foot long Cantenna
Antenna Extension Cable at CompUSA and placed it between the
Wi-Fi card and its antenna. This lets me position the antenna in
a clear area. It works very well and I consider the problem
solved.

This cable has RPSMA male and female connectors that match my
LinkSys WMP54G PCI Adapter. This has boosted the signal to a very
usable level of around 54% and it seems very steady. I even
picked up another wireless network SSID that seems to be coming
from two houses down the street. I didn't try to log onto this
network, but I will talk with the owner and let them know that
they are open.
 
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      06-25-2006, 08:07 PM

"Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:30:06 GMT, Gordon
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
>>I can buy a short piece of coax to let me move the antenna on my
>>wife's computer out of the shadows?
>>
>>Her computer is located in a cubby hole in the hallway, and the
>>CPU has to be oriented such that the Linksys WIreless-G WMP54G
>>PCI Adapter is in the shadow of the CPU box, relative to the
>>WI-FI Access Point.
>>
>>I want to buy a short piece of coax cable with terminals that
>>will fit this Wi-Fi adapter and let me place the antenna above
>>the CPU box. I could locate it in the shelves above her computer,
>>and hopefully get a much stronger signal level to/from the Access
>>Point.
>>
>>Do I need a coax cable with RP-TNC terminals or is this not
>>compatible with the Linksys adapter?
>>

> Thanks to all who responded. I bought a 7 foot long Cantenna
> Antenna Extension Cable at CompUSA and placed it between the
> Wi-Fi card and its antenna. This lets me position the antenna in
> a clear area. It works very well and I consider the problem
> solved.
>
> This cable has RPSMA male and female connectors that match my
> LinkSys WMP54G PCI Adapter. This has boosted the signal to a very
> usable level of around 54% and it seems very steady. I even
> picked up another wireless network SSID that seems to be coming
> from two houses down the street. I didn't try to log onto this
> network, but I will talk with the owner and let them know that
> they are open.





may i ask how you know it is two houses away ??




 
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      06-26-2006, 12:19 AM
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:07:05 GMT, "aussie bongo"
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>
>"Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:30:06 GMT, Gordon
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Is there a source of pre-cut and terminated coax cable from whom
>>>I can buy a short piece of coax to let me move the antenna on my
>>>wife's computer out of the shadows?
>>>
>>>Her computer is located in a cubby hole in the hallway, and the
>>>CPU has to be oriented such that the Linksys WIreless-G WMP54G
>>>PCI Adapter is in the shadow of the CPU box, relative to the
>>>WI-FI Access Point.
>>>
>>>I want to buy a short piece of coax cable with terminals that
>>>will fit this Wi-Fi adapter and let me place the antenna above
>>>the CPU box. I could locate it in the shelves above her computer,
>>>and hopefully get a much stronger signal level to/from the Access
>>>Point.
>>>
>>>Do I need a coax cable with RP-TNC terminals or is this not
>>>compatible with the Linksys adapter?
>>>

>> Thanks to all who responded. I bought a 7 foot long Cantenna
>> Antenna Extension Cable at CompUSA and placed it between the
>> Wi-Fi card and its antenna. This lets me position the antenna in
>> a clear area. It works very well and I consider the problem
>> solved.
>>
>> This cable has RPSMA male and female connectors that match my
>> LinkSys WMP54G PCI Adapter. This has boosted the signal to a very
>> usable level of around 54% and it seems very steady. I even
>> picked up another wireless network SSID that seems to be coming
>> from two houses down the street. I didn't try to log onto this
>> network, but I will talk with the owner and let them know that
>> they are open.

>
>
>
>
>may i ask how you know it is two houses away ??
>

I've gone through a process of elimination with all the closer
houses. Of course it might be from a greater distance...who
knows?

 
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