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Stuart Turrell
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      07-06-2004, 05:36 PM
Hi there,

I have built a nice little wireless network to share my ADSL connection.

Got all my computers/laptop/pocket pc all talking nicely, but i have come up
with a problem.

Before i start, i am using these two items to connect me to ADSL and then to
wireless get the information out to my devices.

eTEC ethernet/usb ADSL modem router
http://www.cpucitystore.co.uk/catalo...roducts_id=184

and

D-Link wireless router
http://www.support.dlink.com/product...oductid=DI-624

Now the trouble is some applications are having trouble accessing the net
fully, i mean, software like shareaza and bittornado (just a couple of
examples) are downloading, very slowly.

I have put in the ports needed by the software into the firewall on the
dlink wireless router, but its still slow.

Any ideas??

Windows firewall is off, is there something i need to do with the modem??

Many thanks

Stuart


 
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Ben Pope
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      07-06-2004, 05:45 PM
Stuart Turrell wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I have built a nice little wireless network to share my ADSL connection.
>
> Got all my computers/laptop/pocket pc all talking nicely, but i have come
> up with a problem.
>
> Before i start, i am using these two items to connect me to ADSL and then
> to wireless get the information out to my devices.
>
> eTEC ethernet/usb ADSL modem router
> http://www.cpucitystore.co.uk/catalo...roducts_id=184
>
> and
>
> D-Link wireless router
> http://www.support.dlink.com/product...oductid=DI-624
>
> Now the trouble is some applications are having trouble accessing the net
> fully, i mean, software like shareaza and bittornado (just a couple of
> examples) are downloading, very slowly.
>
> I have put in the ports needed by the software into the firewall on the
> dlink wireless router, but its still slow.
>
> Any ideas??
>
> Windows firewall is off, is there something i need to do with the modem??



Well, both the modem and the wireless router are routers. You may have to
set up port forarding, so that people can connect to your machine, by
attempting to connect to your modem. Essentially, the modem will forward
the ports to the wireless router, and that will forward the ports to your
machine.

Ben
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Stuart Turrell
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      07-06-2004, 06:08 PM
port forwarding, sounds simple.

Not found anything like that on the modem settings, would there be another
name for such a thing, like bridge or route?

If that sounds stupid, sorry! i am learning, i hate networking, only because
never had the need to know it before!

Stuart



"Ben Pope" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Stuart Turrell wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I have built a nice little wireless network to share my ADSL connection.
>>
>> Got all my computers/laptop/pocket pc all talking nicely, but i have come
>> up with a problem.
>>
>> Before i start, i am using these two items to connect me to ADSL and then
>> to wireless get the information out to my devices.
>>
>> eTEC ethernet/usb ADSL modem router
>> http://www.cpucitystore.co.uk/catalo...roducts_id=184
>>
>> and
>>
>> D-Link wireless router
>> http://www.support.dlink.com/product...oductid=DI-624
>>
>> Now the trouble is some applications are having trouble accessing the net
>> fully, i mean, software like shareaza and bittornado (just a couple of
>> examples) are downloading, very slowly.
>>
>> I have put in the ports needed by the software into the firewall on the
>> dlink wireless router, but its still slow.
>>
>> Any ideas??
>>
>> Windows firewall is off, is there something i need to do with the modem??

>
>
> Well, both the modem and the wireless router are routers. You may have to
> set up port forarding, so that people can connect to your machine, by
> attempting to connect to your modem. Essentially, the modem will forward
> the ports to the wireless router, and that will forward the ports to your
> machine.
>
> Ben
> --
> A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
> I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
>
>



 
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Rob Morley
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      07-06-2004, 06:14 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Stuart Turrell"
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> port forwarding, sounds simple.
>
> Not found anything like that on the modem settings, would there be another
> name for such a thing, like bridge or route?
>

D-Link calls it Virtual Server, other manufacturers probably have
similar twee names for it.
 
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Stuart Turrell
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      07-06-2004, 06:18 PM
ah i have seen that in the settings, virtual server.

So does the wireless router have an mac address or ip address i route it
too?



"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Stuart Turrell"
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> port forwarding, sounds simple.
>>
>> Not found anything like that on the modem settings, would there be
>> another
>> name for such a thing, like bridge or route?
>>

> D-Link calls it Virtual Server, other manufacturers probably have
> similar twee names for it.



 
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Ben Pope
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      07-06-2004, 06:25 PM
Stuart Turrell wrote:
> ah i have seen that in the settings, virtual server.
>
> So does the wireless router have an mac address or ip address i route it
> too?


Yeah. Dunno what it is though.

I would suspect that it tells you it's IP address in it's configuration page
somewhere, to get to the config page, you probably type it's IP address into
your IE window :-)

It's entirely possible that the wireless side has a different IP address to
the LAN side, so be wary of that. You'll need the LAN side.

It's quite likely that it will be of the form: 192.168.x.y where x is 0-255
inclusive and y is 1-254 inclusive, I'd expect y to be 1 in most cases and x
to be less than 10.

Ben
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      07-06-2004, 06:35 PM
It also wants to know a public port and private port.
ANything in particular i should stick in there?

Port type too, its giving me a choice, tcp or udp.




"Ben Pope" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Stuart Turrell wrote:
>> ah i have seen that in the settings, virtual server.
>>
>> So does the wireless router have an mac address or ip address i route it
>> too?

>
> Yeah. Dunno what it is though.
>
> I would suspect that it tells you it's IP address in it's configuration
> page
> somewhere, to get to the config page, you probably type it's IP address
> into
> your IE window :-)
>
> It's entirely possible that the wireless side has a different IP address
> to
> the LAN side, so be wary of that. You'll need the LAN side.
>
> It's quite likely that it will be of the form: 192.168.x.y where x is
> 0-255
> inclusive and y is 1-254 inclusive, I'd expect y to be 1 in most cases and
> x
> to be less than 10.
>
> Ben
> --
> A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
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>
>



 
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      07-06-2004, 07:26 PM
Stuart Turrell wrote:
> It also wants to know a public port and private port.
> ANything in particular i should stick in there?


The ports you want everybody to access and the ports you are running your
servers on... usually the same.

The port numbers depend on the file-sharing progs.

> Port type too, its giving me a choice, tcp or udp.


Depends on the file-sharing program.

Ben
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Rob Morley
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      07-06-2004, 07:30 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Stuart Turrell"
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> It also wants to know a public port and private port.
> ANything in particular i should stick in there?


Public port is the port on your router that people will want to connect
on, private port is the port on your LAN that's actually providing the
service - probably the same port or range, but on the PC rather than the
router. Although you could run a HTTP server on port 8080 on one of
your machines, but map it to port 80 on the router, for instance.
>
> Port type too, its giving me a choice, tcp or udp.
>

Probably TCP, it will depend on the application that you're serving -
the documentation should tell you this as well as the port range.
BitTorrent typically uses 6881-6889 TCP.
 
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      07-07-2004, 12:46 PM

"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Stuart Turrell"
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
> > It also wants to know a public port and private port.
> > ANything in particular i should stick in there?

>
> Public port is the port on your router that people will want to connect
> on, private port is the port on your LAN that's actually providing the
> service - probably the same port or range, but on the PC rather than the
> router. Although you could run a HTTP server on port 8080 on one of
> your machines, but map it to port 80 on the router, for instance.
> >
> > Port type too, its giving me a choice, tcp or udp.
> >

> Probably TCP, it will depend on the application that you're serving -
> the documentation should tell you this as well as the port range.
> BitTorrent typically uses 6881-6889 TCP.


Have you tried turning on UPNP & Gaming mode in the Routers Tools Misc.
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