Cisco AP and linux

Hi,

Most probably the answer will be no, however... I've got this Cisco
AP1310 and I was wondering if there is any linux distribution for this
hardware like for example OperWRT.

Thanks for any hints

Bye

On 17 Feb 2006 13:53:58 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Most probably the answer will be no, however... I've got this Cisco
>AP1310 and I was wondering if there is any linux distribution for this
>hardware like for example OperWRT.

Nope. However, you have something better in the AP1310. Cisco runs on
IOS. If you want features and functions, Cisco IOS is way more
"powerful" than any of the Linux based wireless routers.

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Jeff Liebermann ha scritto:

> On 17 Feb 2006 13:53:58 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> >Most probably the answer will be no, however... I've got this Cisco
> >AP1310 and I was wondering if there is any linux distribution for this
> >hardware like for example OperWRT.
>
> Nope. However, you have something better in the AP1310. Cisco runs on
> IOS. If you want features and functions, Cisco IOS is way more
> "powerful" than any of the Linux based wireless routers.

Well,you're probably right... however since I have a couple of those
toys I was wondering
if I could do something like MIT's roofnet. I've just discovered this
amazing project and since there are several linux implementation of
this kind of routing protocols I was planning of reusing this cisco's
hardware to build a mesh network.

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Jeff Liebermann ha scritto:

> On 17 Feb 2006 13:53:58 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> >Most probably the answer will be no, however... I've got this Cisco
> >AP1310 and I was wondering if there is any linux distribution for this
> >hardware like for example OperWRT.
>
> Nope. However, you have something better in the AP1310. Cisco runs on
> IOS. If you want features and functions, Cisco IOS is way more
> "powerful" than any of the Linux based wireless routers.

Well,you're probably right... however since I have a couple of those
toys I was wondering
if I could do something like MIT's roofnet. I've just discovered this
amazing project and since there are several linux implementation of
this kind of routing protocols I was planning of reusing this cisco's
hardware to build a mesh network.

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"Hamvil" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>
>Jeff Liebermann ha scritto:
>
>> On 17 Feb 2006 13:53:58 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>
>> >Most probably the answer will be no, however... I've got this Cisco
>> >AP1310 and I was wondering if there is any linux distribution for this
>> >hardware like for example OperWRT.
>>
>> Nope. However, you have something better in the AP1310. Cisco runs on
>> IOS. If you want features and functions, Cisco IOS is way more
>> "powerful" than any of the Linux based wireless routers.

>Well,you're probably right...

I'm always right. Well, maybe usually right.

>however since I have a couple of those
>toys I was wondering
>if I could do something like MIT's roofnet.

Dunno. Probably not because they use custom firmware. They seem to
prefer Netgear WGT634u.
http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/doku.php?id=wgt634u
I don't think your Cisco boxes will work with RoofNet (not sure).

>I've just discovered this
>amazing project and since there are several linux implementation of
>this kind of routing protocols I was planning of reusing this cisco's
>hardware to build a mesh network.

I have a bad attitude about mesh networks, but they're the current
fashion rage in wireless. Far be it for me to suggest that they have
problems.

Some reading on Mesh from my bookmark pile:
http://americas.locustworld.com
http://www.moskaluk.com/papers.htm (links and papers)
http://www.smallworks.com/archives/00000072.htm
http://www.belairnetworks.com
(2 or more radios is the right way to do mesh)
http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003972.html
http://dailywireless.org/modules.php...rder=0&thold=0

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Jeff Liebermann ha scritto:
> >however since I have a couple of those
> >toys I was wondering
> >if I could do something like MIT's roofnet.
>
> Dunno. Probably not because they use custom firmware. They seem to
> prefer Netgear WGT634u.
> http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/doku.php?id=wgt634u

Yep, I know. I have one of those myself. However you can use every kind
of hardware, they just require a Linux OS.

> I don't think your Cisco boxes will work with RoofNet (not sure).

Well I wasn't looking for something that would works just
put-of-the-box. I was ready
to spend some time on it, but I need at least a minimal linux
distribution that can boot on that hardware.

> >I've just discovered this
> >amazing project and since there are several linux implementation of
> >this kind of routing protocols I was planning of reusing this cisco's
> >hardware to build a mesh network.
>
> I have a bad attitude about mesh networks, but they're the current
> fashion rage in wireless. Far be it for me to suggest that they have
> problems.

Well I'm still at the university so I have some time to spend on the
topic.
Thanks for the links I didn't know about belair. Unluckly they do not
have anything
open source. I was planning to write a tool for managing such kind of
networks like the one
that they show in their flyers.

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"Hamvil" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Well I'm still at the university so I have some time to spend on the
>topic.
>Thanks for the links I didn't know about belair. Unluckly they do not
>have anything
>open source. I was planning to write a tool for managing such kind of
>networks like the one
>that they show in their flyers.

There are quite a few companies and groups doing mesh networks. Only
a few offer more than one radio to avoid the store and forward lag and
bandwidth reduction effects. Management tools are nice, but that's
not where the problems hide. I suggest you look into the adaptive
routing algorithms, route self-optimization, bandwidth optimization,
interference tolerance/avoidance, abuse mitigation, auto
configuration, and self-healing networks. Once these are working,
mesh networks could run themselves and require only monitoring (fault
detection), not management (manual tweaking).

Mesh network vendors:
BelAir Networks Inc
Cisco Systems Inc
PacketHop Inc.
Proxim Corporation
Rajant Corporation
RoamAD
SkyPilot Networks Inc
Strix Systems Inc
Tropos Networks Inc
Firetide
Hopling Technologies BV
MeshDynamics
Motorola Inc (Motomesh)
Nortel Networks

Best of luck.

Oh... you might wanna see what Cisco has to offer in the way of mesh
networks:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns...s_package.html
and possibly trade the hardware.

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