chewing my arm off!!!!

I think I am going mad. I have bought my wifey a new pc and got it hooked
up wirelessly to the pc upstairs. using airlink router and pci card w/
broadband. at first it was extremely weak then I moved the router and new
pc around until I found a decent line. Its great signal (54 Mbits) when you
don't use
it but as soon as you start going on the web or trying to download e-mail it
bogs down terribly(all the way down to 28 or nil). I have gone through the
settings in several different
configs to no avail (not that I really know what the hell I'm doing)...any
ideas. It's DHCP, set to 802.11 B & G mix (for my son's PSP) even though
both hardware is G capable.

is it normal for it to bog down like this?

Thanks

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:23:12 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
<lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in
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>I think I am going mad. I have bought my wifey a new pc and got it hooked
>up wirelessly to the pc upstairs. using airlink router and pci card w/
>broadband. at first it was extremely weak then I moved the router and new
>pc around until I found a decent line. Its great signal (54 Mbits) when you
>don't use
>it but as soon as you start going on the web or trying to download e-mail it
>bogs down terribly(all the way down to 28 or nil). I have gone through the
>settings in several different
>configs to no avail (not that I really know what the hell I'm doing)...any
>ideas. It's DHCP, set to 802.11 B & G mix (for my son's PSP) even though
>both hardware is G capable.
>
>is it normal for it to bog down like this?

Yes (although 28 should still be more than fast enough). You're
apparently going through floors, which really cuts down the signal, and
wireless antennas work much better horizontally than vertically. Try
orienting them horizontally. You also might have interference problems.
See the links below.

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WOW! thanks for the rapid response and good info links. also how much
signal does one need to play a game like BF2, when I get on and play this I
keep getting bad signal msg's?

Thanks again

"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:23:12 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
> <lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in
> <-(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>>I think I am going mad. I have bought my wifey a new pc and got it hooked
>>up wirelessly to the pc upstairs. using airlink router and pci card w/
>>broadband. at first it was extremely weak then I moved the router and new
>>pc around until I found a decent line. Its great signal (54 Mbits) when
>>you
>>don't use
>>it but as soon as you start going on the web or trying to download e-mail
>>it
>>bogs down terribly(all the way down to 28 or nil). I have gone through
>>the
>>settings in several different
>>configs to no avail (not that I really know what the hell I'm doing)...any
>>ideas. It's DHCP, set to 802.11 B & G mix (for my son's PSP) even though
>>both hardware is G capable.
>>
>>is it normal for it to bog down like this?
>
> Yes (although 28 should still be more than fast enough). You're
> apparently going through floors, which really cuts down the signal, and
> wireless antennas work much better horizontally than vertically. Try
> orienting them horizontally. You also might have interference problems.
> See the links below.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

and does the amount of content necessarily change the signal strength?


"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:23:12 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
> <lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in
> <-(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>>I think I am going mad. I have bought my wifey a new pc and got it hooked
>>up wirelessly to the pc upstairs. using airlink router and pci card w/
>>broadband. at first it was extremely weak then I moved the router and new
>>pc around until I found a decent line. Its great signal (54 Mbits) when
>>you
>>don't use
>>it but as soon as you start going on the web or trying to download e-mail
>>it
>>bogs down terribly(all the way down to 28 or nil). I have gone through
>>the
>>settings in several different
>>configs to no avail (not that I really know what the hell I'm doing)...any
>>ideas. It's DHCP, set to 802.11 B & G mix (for my son's PSP) even though
>>both hardware is G capable.
>>
>>is it normal for it to bog down like this?
>
> Yes (although 28 should still be more than fast enough). You're
> apparently going through floors, which really cuts down the signal, and
> wireless antennas work much better horizontally than vertically. Try
> orienting them horizontally. You also might have interference problems.
> See the links below.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

not to rattle on....but the horizontal position of the antenii improved the
signal a bunch

"lucky(one)" <lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) m...
> and does the amount of content necessarily change the signal strength?
>
>
> "John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:23:12 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
>> <lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in
>> <-(E-Mail Removed)>:
>>
>>>I think I am going mad. I have bought my wifey a new pc and got it
>>>hooked
>>>up wirelessly to the pc upstairs. using airlink router and pci card w/
>>>broadband. at first it was extremely weak then I moved the router and
>>>new
>>>pc around until I found a decent line. Its great signal (54 Mbits) when
>>>you
>>>don't use
>>>it but as soon as you start going on the web or trying to download e-mail
>>>it
>>>bogs down terribly(all the way down to 28 or nil). I have gone through
>>>the
>>>settings in several different
>>>configs to no avail (not that I really know what the hell I'm
>>>doing)...any
>>>ideas. It's DHCP, set to 802.11 B & G mix (for my son's PSP) even though
>>>both hardware is G capable.
>>>
>>>is it normal for it to bog down like this?
>>
>> Yes (although 28 should still be more than fast enough). You're
>> apparently going through floors, which really cuts down the signal, and
>> wireless antennas work much better horizontally than vertically. Try
>> orienting them horizontally. You also might have interference problems.
>> See the links below.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
>> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
>> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To>
>> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
>
>

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:32:03 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
<lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)> :

>WOW! thanks for the rapid response and good info links. also how much
>signal does one need to play a game like BF2,

There is no rigid rule.

>when I get on and play this I
>keep getting bad signal msg's?

Might be weak signal. Might also be interference.

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Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:33:36 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
<lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in
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>and does the amount of content necessarily change the signal strength?

It has no effect on signal strength -- you just notice any problems
more.

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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:43:07 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
<lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)> :

>not to rattle on....but the horizontal position of the antenii improved the
>signal a bunch

That's because it changed the gain pattern from horizontal to vertical.

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well, no. I actually have a software signal gauge that shows it going down
as the content increases. like if I load a large graphic file it will go
way down (http://www.bardstowncable.net/speedtest.htm?11261016)
"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:33:36 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
> <lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote in
> <(E-Mail Removed)> :
>
>>and does the amount of content necessarily change the signal strength?
>
> It has no effect on signal strength -- you just notice any problems
> more.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:34:51 -0400, "lucky\(one\)"
<lucky(1)@insightbb.com> wrote:

>well, no. I actually have a software signal gauge that shows it going down
>as the content increases. like if I load a large graphic file it will go
>way down (http://www.bardstowncable.net/speedtest.htm?11261016)

That speed test was made for a dialup modem. Please find another.
Looks like Insight Broadband doesn't have a local speed test, so try
one of these:
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?more=1
In any case an online speed test is NOT a good test for wireless
preformance. The problem is that you're measuring the speed of the
broadband connection, not that of the wireless connection. To do the
wireless, you need to use a CAT5 ethernet connected computah to use as
a benchmarking server. The speed is that of copying files between
this computah and your wireless connected computer. The assumption is
that the CAT5 ethernet connected computer network speed is faster than
that of the wireless. I suggest using Iperf for the purpose:
http://www.noc.ucf.edu/Tools/Iperf/default.htm

It would be nice if you would kindly disclose the maker and model
numbers of your wireless hardware. I don't like doing guesswork.

What you're seeing is rather common. The way some wireless routers
work is that when you're NOT sending any data, it displays a maximum
speed (54MBit/sec) connection speed. (Note that the router is what
controls the speed, not the client). That makes sense because with no
data moving, there are no errors, therefore the wireless can run at
maximum speed.

However, as soon as you start moving data, the errors appear, and the
access point slows down the system in a heroic attempt to reduce the
errors. It would be a bad idea to have it permanently stuck at some
slower speed, so as soon as you stop sending data, the errors
disappear, and full speed is again achieved.



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