charging for wirless broadband access

Hi,

I am looking for some ideas on charging for wirless internet access. Maybe
charging is not the best way to go but I want to see what options are
available.

Does anyone know of any off the shelf products available, e.g. software to
deal with payments, timing access, etc.

What hardware would you need apart from wireless router? Would one central
server be be able to cope with access for many sites?

I have had a quick google but have not come across anything suitable.

Any suggestions welcome.


Cheers,
Craig

"Craig" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I am looking for some ideas on charging for wirless internet access.
> Maybe charging is not the best way to go but I want to see what options
> are available.
>
> Does anyone know of any off the shelf products available, e.g. software to
> deal with payments, timing access, etc.
>
> What hardware would you need apart from wireless router? Would one
> central server be be able to cope with access for many sites?
>
> I have had a quick google but have not come across anything suitable.
>
> Any suggestions welcome.

Mark set up www.essexbroadband.com (based in Basildon) about 18 months or
so ago, drop him a message and pick his brains.

Do your math first. It'll cost more than a few quid to set up, but how long
will it take to recoup the monies ?
If you're in a far flung settlement not serviced by cable / adsl you might
get a grant to help.

Just be careful - it'll take a lot of time and money.

Best of luck.

Hi,

Thanks for that.

Should have mentioned we have adsl access in our area and was thinking of
wireless access through adsl connections, e.g. user with a laptop in a
cafe/hotel.

I know of a few companies interested in providing wireless access and know
it would be simple enough to do with a wireless router, I am just looking at
the costs and what is needed if you were to charge for access. I was
thinking of customer buying a ticket and puting in a code, like in some
internet cafes or possibly asking for credit card details.

Cheers


"Gizmo" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Craig" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4371153f@212.67.96.135...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am looking for some ideas on charging for wirless internet access.
>> Maybe charging is not the best way to go but I want to see what options
>> are available.
>>
>> Does anyone know of any off the shelf products available, e.g. software
>> to deal with payments, timing access, etc.
>>
>> What hardware would you need apart from wireless router? Would one
>> central server be be able to cope with access for many sites?
>>
>> I have had a quick google but have not come across anything suitable.
>>
>> Any suggestions welcome.
>
> Mark set up www.essexbroadband.com (based in Basildon) about 18 months or
> so ago, drop him a message and pick his brains.
>
> Do your math first. It'll cost more than a few quid to set up, but how
> long will it take to recoup the monies ?
> If you're in a far flung settlement not serviced by cable / adsl you might
> get a grant to help.
>
> Just be careful - it'll take a lot of time and money.
>
> Best of luck.
>
>
>
>

Craig wrote:

> What hardware would you need apart from wireless router? Would one central
> server be be able to cope with access for many sites?
>
Possibly not what you're after but....

http://www.solwise.co.uk/wireless-hotspot-wsr-3800.htm perhaps?

Peter

On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 21:14:40 -0000, Craig <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for some ideas on charging for wirless internet access. Maybe
> charging is not the best way to go but I want to see what options are
> available.
>
> Does anyone know of any off the shelf products available, e.g. software to
> deal with payments, timing access, etc.
>
> What hardware would you need apart from wireless router? Would one central
> server be be able to cope with access for many sites?
>
> I have had a quick google but have not come across anything suitable.

What restrictions are there on this with regard to connection sharing /
selling on bandwitdth? e.g. if I have a 2M adsl over a residential line
can I legally sell on 1M of that to my neighbour? I appreciate that BT
would never know and I could just do this on the sly, but I'm curious on
the official position.

Thanks,

ben.

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On 09 Nov 2005 16:18:45 GMT, Ben Fitzgerald
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>e.g. if I have a 2M adsl over a residential line
>can I legally sell on 1M of that to my neighbour? I appreciate that BT
>would never know and I could just do this on the sly, but I'm curious on
>the official position.

depends on the ISP. Demon for one have an explicit "no sharing,
including by wireless" clause in their terms & conditions.

It would be easy for an ISP to spot unusual use patterns.

Phil
--
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http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist...&Board=tiscali

AOL - the unlimited ISP of choice for heavy downloaders.

Phil Thompson wrote:
> On 09 Nov 2005 16:18:45 GMT, Ben Fitzgerald
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> e.g. if I have a 2M adsl over a residential line
>> can I legally sell on 1M of that to my neighbour? I appreciate that
>> BT would never know and I could just do this on the sly, but I'm
>> curious on the official position.
>
> depends on the ISP. Demon for one have an explicit "no sharing,
> including by wireless" clause in their terms & conditions.
>
> It would be easy for an ISP to spot unusual use patterns.
>
> Phil

But how? What would be the difference of a diverse family usage, over a
network, to that of your next door neighbours. The main problem
against, as far as I'm concerned, is that whoever actually rents the
connection will ultimately have to take responcibility for the usage on
that connection (kiddy porn, warez, etc) & also have to deal with all
the wannabe hackers trying to break into the network, with nothing else
in mind other than to break it...

It happened quite recently in an area quite close to me, a person paid
for a 2 meg connection & put up a highgain external co-linear & let it
be known to his 'friends'. Within a month he had to give up on it as to
many people where just trying to break it.

If you're going to share, make sure you can trust who ever you're going
to share with or else you may end up very sorry...

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 21:36:40 -0000, "Kraftee"
<(E-Mail Removed) please we're bristish.com> wrote:

>
>But how? What would be the difference of a diverse family usage, over a
>network, to that of your next door neighbours.

volume and numbers probably, not many families with 20 PCs for
example. May not be definitive but enough to narrow down the field of
investigation.

Phil
--
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices, see
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist...&Board=tiscali

AOL - the unlimited ISP of choice for heavy downloaders.

"Phil Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 21:36:40 -0000, "Kraftee"
> <(E-Mail Removed) please we're bristish.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>But how? What would be the difference of a diverse family usage, over
>>a
>>network, to that of your next door neighbours.
>
> volume and numbers probably, not many families with 20 PCs for
> example. May not be definitive but enough to narrow down the field of
> investigation.
>
> Phil

Phil I very much doubt if anybody would even think of bandwidth sharing
with a cyber cafe ;-)