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newtothis
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      01-09-2004, 10:27 PM
Hello all,

I have finally decided on the Dell Inspiron 8600 (laptop). The way I have it
configured it wouldn't technically have "Centrino Mobile Technology". The
reason for that is because it has a DellTrue Mobile 1300 802.11b/g wireless
card and not the Intel 802.11b card. It is my understanding if the laptop
has the "Centrino Mobile Technology" the parts work together to perform more
efficiently. It is also my understanding the 802.11b/g card is a better card
because it also will be compatible with "g" speeds. If I go with this card
will the parts still work together the same as if I had the Intel 802.11b
card? Would I be better off getting the Intel Wireless card even though it
is only a 802.11b card (and not compatible with "G")?

I hope I asked this without confusing even myself...lol

Thanks in advance.

FYI (below is the configuration I'm talking about)

Dell Inspiron 8600:
Pentium M 1.5GHz
15.4 Inch Wide Screen
512 MB DDR, 333MHz, 2 Dimms
40GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive
24X Combo DVD/CD-RW
Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN 802.11b/g PCI Card
64MB NVIDIA GeForce FX (graphics card)


 
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      01-09-2004, 11:18 PM




"I have the Centrino with the built-in chipset
from Intel including the 802.11b wireless.
I from time to time use a PCMCIA card in the laptop
for the better antenna exposure and it works
great for me. I just have to turn off the Intel
Centrino wireless. Guess your setup would
work fine.


 
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      01-10-2004, 01:21 AM
newtothis <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: Hello all,

: I have finally decided on the Dell Inspiron 8600 (laptop). The way I have it
: configured it wouldn't technically have "Centrino Mobile Technology". The
: reason for that is because it has a DellTrue Mobile 1300 802.11b/g wireless
: card and not the Intel 802.11b card. It is my understanding if the laptop
: has the "Centrino Mobile Technology" the parts work together to perform more
: efficiently.

Seems unlikely that you would see a huge benefit from the "Centrino"
wireless card. The biggest power savings really come from the
Pentium-M CPU. If you get another mini-PCI (internal) WiFi card (is
this what the DellTrue card is?) you would see the same benefits.

I have a mini-PCI WiFi 802.11b card in my laptop now (I bought and
installed the card myself). It works great - but if I were buying
today, I would most definitely go with an 802.11b/g card - and I would
get the mini-PCI version if at all possible.mm

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      01-13-2004, 02:52 PM
"newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> It is my understanding if the laptop has the
> "Centrino Mobile Technology" the parts work together to perform
> more efficiently.


you are wathing too many commercials :/
"Centrino" means that laptop has Intel Chipset + Intel Pentium-M CPU
+ ANY WiFi card

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      01-13-2004, 03:54 PM
No, actually, for a laptop to be considered to have the "Centrino Mobile
Technology" it does have to have the Intel wireless card to go along with
the chipset and the Pentium M processor.

My question was is this "name" just a gimmick or do all three work together
to produce a more efficient running laptop. Or can you substitute a
different wireless card and get about the same results in terms of battery
life and performance.

....and I definitely DO watch too much TV, but that's besides the
point...lol.


"RusH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:lNGLb.8571$na.6907@attbi_s04:
>
> > It is my understanding if the laptop has the
> > "Centrino Mobile Technology" the parts work together to perform
> > more efficiently.

>
> you are wathing too many commercials :/
> "Centrino" means that laptop has Intel Chipset + Intel Pentium-M CPU
> + ANY WiFi card
>
> Pozdrawiam.
> --
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> http://kiti.pulse.pdi.net/qv30/
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> You may never know -- UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.



 
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      01-13-2004, 06:11 PM
"newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> No, actually, for a laptop to be considered to have the
> "Centrino Mobile Technology" it does have to have the Intel
> wireless card to go along with the chipset and the Pentium M
> processor.


NO ?
Look at Dell or other brands, the name "Centrino" is just a marketing
hype used to lure customers. There was even a time when i saw some
"Centrino" notebooks without wifi - te name itselfe makes them sell
better.

> My question was is this "name" just a gimmick or do all three
> work together to produce a more efficient running laptop.


no, centrino means that your laptop will survive more than 2h on one
battery pack. Nothing more.

> ...and I definitely DO watch too much TV, but that's besides the
> point...lol.


have you tried to surf the net on the Mount Everest ?

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      01-13-2004, 06:17 PM
RusH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
: news:JoVMb.44662$I06.279966@attbi_s01:

: > No, actually, for a laptop to be considered to have the
: > "Centrino Mobile Technology" it does have to have the Intel
: > wireless card to go along with the chipset and the Pentium M
: > processor.

: NO ?
: Look at Dell or other brands, the name "Centrino" is just a marketing
: hype used to lure customers. There was even a time when i saw some
: "Centrino" notebooks without wifi - te name itselfe makes them sell
: better.

"Centrino" *MUST* include WiFi. Any notebook maker/retailer
advertising a "Centrino" notebook without WiFi was doing so illegally
- like a grocery advertising "Diet Pepsi" that is really regular
Pepsi. Sure it could happen - shady companies do such things all the
time. I do not believe Dell did it intentionally, if at all (an ad
mistake?) - if you have evidence, show us here and report it to Intel.

It is possible, I imagine, to get a Pentium-M notebook without WiFi.

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      01-13-2004, 07:07 PM
Rush,

I appreciate the help, but you are wrong about what you think centrino is.

Take a look into things



"RusH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns946FCD08F9428RusHcomputersystems@193.110.1 22.80...
> "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:JoVMb.44662$I06.279966@attbi_s01:
>
> > No, actually, for a laptop to be considered to have the
> > "Centrino Mobile Technology" it does have to have the Intel
> > wireless card to go along with the chipset and the Pentium M
> > processor.

>
> NO ?
> Look at Dell or other brands, the name "Centrino" is just a marketing
> hype used to lure customers. There was even a time when i saw some
> "Centrino" notebooks without wifi - te name itselfe makes them sell
> better.
>
> > My question was is this "name" just a gimmick or do all three
> > work together to produce a more efficient running laptop.

>
> no, centrino means that your laptop will survive more than 2h on one
> battery pack. Nothing more.
>
> > ...and I definitely DO watch too much TV, but that's besides the
> > point...lol.

>
> have you tried to surf the net on the Mount Everest ?
>
> Pozdrawiam.
> --
> RusH //
> http://kiti.pulse.pdi.net/qv30/
> Like ninjas, true hackers are shrouded in secrecy and mystery.
> You may never know -- UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.



 
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newtothis
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      01-13-2004, 07:09 PM
Yes, Andrew you can get a Pentium M in a laptop without WiFi, but then it
would NOT be a "Centrino" unlike the way Rush was describing things.


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> RusH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> : "newtothis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> : news:JoVMb.44662$I06.279966@attbi_s01:
>
> : > No, actually, for a laptop to be considered to have the
> : > "Centrino Mobile Technology" it does have to have the Intel
> : > wireless card to go along with the chipset and the Pentium M
> : > processor.
>
> : NO ?
> : Look at Dell or other brands, the name "Centrino" is just a marketing
> : hype used to lure customers. There was even a time when i saw some
> : "Centrino" notebooks without wifi - te name itselfe makes them sell
> : better.
>
> "Centrino" *MUST* include WiFi. Any notebook maker/retailer
> advertising a "Centrino" notebook without WiFi was doing so illegally
> - like a grocery advertising "Diet Pepsi" that is really regular
> Pepsi. Sure it could happen - shady companies do such things all the
> time. I do not believe Dell did it intentionally, if at all (an ad
> mistake?) - if you have evidence, show us here and report it to Intel.
>
> It is possible, I imagine, to get a Pentium-M notebook without WiFi.
>
> Andrew
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      01-15-2004, 08:18 PM
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> "Centrino" *MUST* include WiFi.


http://www.laptopshop.co.uk/new-laptops-
notebooks/processor.htm?cpu=Centrino_Pentium_M

now count how many of them comes without wifi

Now thats funny :

http://www.laptopshop.co.uk/new-lapt...paq_HP-DE262A-
laptop-notebook-new.htm

Optional wifi

> Any notebook maker/retailer
> advertising a "Centrino" notebook without WiFi was doing so
> illegally - like a grocery advertising "Diet Pepsi" that is
> really regular Pepsi. Sure it could happen - shady companies do
> such things all the time. I do not believe Dell did it
> intentionally, if at all (an ad mistake?) - if you have
> evidence, show us here and report it to Intel.


Sue Compaq

> It is possible, I imagine, to get a Pentium-M notebook without
> WiFi.


even one claiming to be Centrino


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