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Aosmosis
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      07-01-2006, 07:14 PM
Could I pay BT to install (or do it myself) CAT 6 cable from my house to the
exchange which is like 100m?

That way I could connect directly to the DSLAM and save money on my line
rental.

Anyone done anything similar?


 
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R. Mark Clayton
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      07-01-2006, 07:22 PM

"Aosmosis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Could I pay BT to install (or do it myself) CAT 6 cable from my house to
> the exchange which is like 100m?
>
> That way I could connect directly to the DSLAM and save money on my line
> rental.
>
> Anyone done anything similar?
>
>


BT will connect you at pretty much any speed you like.

Unfortunately for you the installation charges and rental are worked out the
average distance from a subscriber to the exchange (plus a fat profit)

This means that the fact that you are only 100m from the exchange is BT's
good fortune for building their exchange only 100m from your house rather
than yours for building (or buying) your house only 100m from the exchange.

BT will therefore charge you at their published rates - URL anyone...


 
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Peter Crosland
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      07-01-2006, 07:41 PM
> Could I pay BT to install (or do it myself) CAT 6 cable from my house
> to the exchange which is like 100m?
>
> That way I could connect directly to the DSLAM and save money on my
> line rental.


Either you are a troll or this takes my nomination for the most impractical
suggestion of the month. Even if you could persuade BT to allow you direct
access to their equipment, which has a very high improbablity factor, the
charge would be many times what you pay in lines rental.

Peter Crosland


 
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jim
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      07-01-2006, 09:38 PM
On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:14:41 +0100, "Aosmosis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Could I pay BT to install (or do it myself) CAT 6 cable from my house to the
>exchange which is like 100m?
>
>That way I could connect directly to the DSLAM and save money on my line
>rental.
>
>Anyone done anything similar?


>

While you are at it, you could also tap into the local gas main and
run a 30A cable from the nearest 50KV pylon - who needs utility
companies, eh ?

jim
 
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Owain
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      07-01-2006, 10:39 PM
jim wrote:
> While you are at it, you could also tap into the local gas main and
> run a 30A cable from the nearest 50KV pylon - who needs utility
> companies, eh ?


Don't be silly.

30A at 50kV would be rather excessive. 0.5mA should be enough for the
average household.

Owain

 
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      07-01-2006, 10:47 PM

"jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:14:41 +0100, "Aosmosis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Could I pay BT to install (or do it myself) CAT 6 cable from my house to
>>the
>>exchange which is like 100m?
>>
>>That way I could connect directly to the DSLAM and save money on my line
>>rental.
>>
>>Anyone done anything similar?

>
>>

> While you are at it, you could also tap into the local gas main and
> run a 30A cable from the nearest 50KV pylon - who needs utility
> companies, eh ?
>
> jim


Shame you didn't live in Liverpool, some of the cable jointers working for a
now privatised company used to offer an unmetered feed to a second consumer
unit for £80. That was in the mid 80's early 90's. A number of substations
used to trip and/or burn out because of excessive loading so the electric
company fitted metering in the substations to compare with house readings.
Some naughty people were in to indoor gardening which meant expensive
lighting.
They used to dig down and join a new cable and fit it to a second consumer
unit. I've not seen it done with gas pipes!
It was a major investigation to trace cables and one installation was very
clever. With the switch to ON on the consumer unit it used the metered
supply. With the switch to OFF it used the unmetered.
So it has all been done before.
I have in the course of criminal investigations even seen people clipping a
phone on to their neighbours line.



 
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Martyn Williams
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      07-02-2006, 05:44 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
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> "Aosmosis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:e86h9u$fnd$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Could I pay BT to install (or do it myself) CAT 6 cable from my house to
> > the exchange which is like 100m?
> >
> > That way I could connect directly to the DSLAM and save money on my line
> > rental.
> >
> > Anyone done anything similar?
> >
> >

>
> BT will connect you at pretty much any speed you like.
>
> Unfortunately for you the installation charges and rental are worked out the
> average distance from a subscriber to the exchange (plus a fat profit)
>


I would think that it would be leased line prices so that makes it about
£4k/year for a 2Mb link
 
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R. Mark Clayton
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      07-02-2006, 09:50 AM

"Owain" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> jim wrote:
>> While you are at it, you could also tap into the local gas main and
>> run a 30A cable from the nearest 50KV pylon - who needs utility
>> companies, eh ?

>
> Don't be silly.
>
> 30A at 50kV would be rather excessive. 0.5mA should be enough for the
> average household.


Yes but if the juice is free, the beneficiary might decide to run their 1MW
pirate radio station...

>
> Owain
>
>



 
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R. Mark Clayton
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      07-02-2006, 09:53 AM

"Rob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:vYCpg.64841

> Shame you didn't live in Liverpool, some of the cable jointers working for
> a now privatised company used to offer an unmetered feed to a second
> consumer unit for £80. That was in the mid 80's early 90's. A number of
> substations used to trip and/or burn out because of excessive loading so
> the electric company fitted metering in the substations to compare with
> house readings. Some naughty people were in to indoor gardening which
> meant expensive lighting.
> They used to dig down and join a new cable and fit it to a second consumer
> unit. I've not seen it done with gas pipes!
> It was a major investigation to trace cables


A TDR box and compare the results with what is supposed to be there -
shouldn't take too long.

> and one installation was very clever. With the switch to ON on the
> consumer unit it used the metered supply. With the switch to OFF it used
> the unmetered.


No doubt with the switch worked into the door of the meter cuboard...

> So it has all been done before.
> I have in the course of criminal investigations even seen people clipping
> a phone on to their neighbours line.
>
>
>



 
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Allan
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      07-02-2006, 10:10 PM

"jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:14:41 +0100, "Aosmosis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Could I pay BT to install (or do it myself) CAT 6 cable from my house to
>>the
>>exchange which is like 100m?
>>
>>That way I could connect directly to the DSLAM and save money on my line
>>rental.
>>
>>Anyone done anything similar?

>
>>

> While you are at it, you could also tap into the local gas main and
> run a 30A cable from the nearest 50KV pylon - who needs utility
> companies, eh ?
>
> jim


With the hot weather and hosepipe bans, perhaps a hose from the Lakes to
Kent? Of course, precautions would be needed against leakage....

Allan

 
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