(capped) maxdsl

how long till BT wake up and uncap it? got 2meg masquerading as 8meg atm.
8128 down (anyone get 8192? does it exist??) 448 up

"nick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> how long till BT wake up and uncap it? got 2meg masquerading as 8meg atm.
> 8128 down (anyone get 8192? does it exist??) 448 up
>
>

its likely that your connection is still training, i.e. the first ten days
after upgrading when system is working out your best speed to synch at 8mb
is an 'adaptive' service, based on distance to exchange... after the ten
days or so.... your systems 'preferred speed' should then become
available....

"Stu C" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "nick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> how long till BT wake up and uncap it? got 2meg masquerading as 8meg atm.
>> 8128 down (anyone get 8192? does it exist??) 448 up

With BT MAX the maximum sync rate is 8128. I don't know why they chose this
as the maximum sync rate as the maximum for ADSL and what the LLU providers
use is 8192. Though the difference is so small I'm sure it doens't matter
anyway.

When I got upgraded to MAX it was capped at 2Mb for the first three days
then afterwards slowly started creeping up. However I've yet to see the full
7Mb an 8128 sync is meant to be capable off.

Dan

"nick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> how long till BT wake up and uncap it? got 2meg masquerading as 8meg atm.
> 8128 down (anyone get 8192? does it exist??) 448 up
>
>

8128 down !!!

Do you live IN the exchange ?!

I got around 45xx down to start with (around 3.5km from the exchange) and
thats now down to around 37xx after the 10-12 day period. In that time and
even now I'm still only getting speeds just over a 2mb connection. So I'm
not moaning but its still never going to seem as fast as the downstream rate
suggests it should be IMO.

Andy

In article <44592aea$0$9235$(E-Mail Removed)>,
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> how long till BT wake up and uncap it? got 2meg masquerading as 8meg atm.
> 8128 down (anyone get 8192? does it exist??) 448 up
>
>
>
mine was more or less stable at 5.6Mb/sec for the whole 10 days
(reporting anywhere between 7xxx and 80xx on the router). My main
problem is that the net connection becomes highly unstable after 8.30pm
until the morning and this is continuing 13 days after the regrade).

On Wed, 3 May 2006, nick wrote:

> how long till BT wake up and uncap it? got 2meg masquerading as 8meg atm.
> 8128 down (anyone get 8192? does it exist??) 448 up

Nobody get's 8192 as the max is 8128 - it's ATM line speed not your actual
maximum TCPIP connection speed which is lower at around 7150 kb/s.

Before your line will actually be able to use it's maximum speed the BT
RADIUS profile will need to be changed as this includes a line speed cap
defaulting to 2Mb. BT have an automated process in place for this however
it's generally not working well. It should change the profile in 75
minutes however for many it's taking 3 days or more.

Many of our customers have found that disconnecting for at least 30
minutes forces the issue. The key is that the BT systems have to recognise
a new sync event at a different speed from the last recorded one.

Jason Clifford
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On Thu, 4 May 2006, Dan wrote:

> With BT MAX the maximum sync rate is 8128. I don't know why they chose this
> as the maximum sync rate as the maximum for ADSL and what the LLU providers
> use is 8192. Though the difference is so small I'm sure it doens't matter
> anyway.
>
> When I got upgraded to MAX it was capped at 2Mb for the first three days
> then afterwards slowly started creeping up. However I've yet to see the full
> 7Mb an 8128 sync is meant to be capable off.

Have you tried the BT wholesale speed test? If that indicates similar
speeds to those you are seeing it indicates there is a contention issue at
your exchange.

In fairness you do need to remember that ADSL has always been a contended
service even if you never experienced the contention before. With an
almost 4 fold increase in maximum speeds it is inevitable that there will
be some contention issues - at least in the short term as everyone tries
to see how fast their line will go before reverting to normal usage.

Jason Clifford
--
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tried that, still capped at 2mbit.


"Jason Clifford" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0605041220570.31814-(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Wed, 3 May 2006, nick wrote:
>
>> how long till BT wake up and uncap it? got 2meg masquerading as 8meg atm.
>> 8128 down (anyone get 8192? does it exist??) 448 up
>
> Nobody get's 8192 as the max is 8128 - it's ATM line speed not your actual
> maximum TCPIP connection speed which is lower at around 7150 kb/s.
>
> Before your line will actually be able to use it's maximum speed the BT
> RADIUS profile will need to be changed as this includes a line speed cap
> defaulting to 2Mb. BT have an automated process in place for this however
> it's generally not working well. It should change the profile in 75
> minutes however for many it's taking 3 days or more.
>
> Many of our customers have found that disconnecting for at least 30
> minutes forces the issue. The key is that the BT systems have to recognise
> a new sync event at a different speed from the last recorded one.
>
> Jason Clifford
> --
> UKFSN.ORG Finance Free Software while you surf the 'net
> http://www.ukfsn.org/ up to 8Mb ADSL Broadband from just £14.98
> ** FREE ADSL MIGRATION **
> http://www.linuxadsl.co.uk/ ADSL Routers from just £21.98
>

On Thu, 4 May 2006, Jason Clifford wrote:

> In fairness you do need to remember that ADSL has always been a
> contended service even if you never experienced the contention
> before. With an almost 4 fold increase in maximum speeds it is
> inevitable that there will be some contention issues -

That's all perfectly logical, yes. But if it was purely a contention
issue, then I guess that a series of measurements would give a wide
scattering of different values, no?

My ADSL line speed (as shown by the router) is up in the 6-thousands,
and BT's reported "stable rate" is normally 6000, or sometimes 5500.

In fact, when I run the speed (throughput) tests I occasionally get
values anywhere between 800k and 2000k. But, at relatively quiet
times, I keep getting values closely clustered around 2100k-2300k.

This leads me to surmise that there's some kind of upper limit or
bottleneck in action, well short of the actual line speed, rather than
encountering mere contention (which would explain those occasional ~
800k values).

As it happens, this is on plusnet, but by also using BT's own speed
checker, which returns comparable figures, I reckon it's not plusnet's
"fault".

I'm not making a fuss about this in practical terms, as the speed I'm
getting is fine for what I need. But from a technical point of view
I'm still interested in knowing just how this limit is coming about.

cheers

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>> "nick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>> how long till BT wake up and uncap it? got 2meg masquerading as 8meg
>>> atm.
>>> 8128 down (anyone get 8192? does it exist??) 448 up
>
> With BT MAX the maximum sync rate is 8128. I don't know why they chose
> this as the maximum sync rate as the maximum for ADSL and what the LLU
> providers use is 8192. Though the difference is so small I'm sure it
> doens't matter anyway.

the difference is classed as 'overheads'...