I can't see other servers and workstations

Hello,

When i click on 'entire network' and 'Microsoft Windows Network' i can't see
other workstations in our network, sometimes it works, but mostly not. We
have SBS2003 and windows 2000 servers + WindowXP clients.
I think it has something to do with WINS, but i'm not sure.

Please help me out.

Kind regards,

Edward

The machines should be domain members and you want to be logged into the
Domain and not logged in "locally" at the workstation,...in other words the
third line of the login prompt must contain the domain name and not the
local machine name.

If all machines are in the same subnet then WINS is not needed, but it is
still a good idea to have WINS running. If the Domain is healthy then DNS
should be fine and all clients should contain that DNS Server in their
network settings either statically or via DHCP.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Edward" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello,
>
> When i click on 'entire network' and 'Microsoft Windows Network' i can't
see
> other workstations in our network, sometimes it works, but mostly not. We
> have SBS2003 and windows 2000 servers + WindowXP clients.
> I think it has something to do with WINS, but i'm not sure.
>
> Please help me out.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Edward
>
>

The Microsoft Windows Network display is driven by the computer browser
service, and relies on Netbios names. Are any of the servers (particularly
the SBS2003 which will be the domain master browser) multihomed or enabled
for remote access? Do you see browser election messages in the event log?

"Edward" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello,
>
> When i click on 'entire network' and 'Microsoft Windows Network' i can't
see
> other workstations in our network, sometimes it works, but mostly not. We
> have SBS2003 and windows 2000 servers + WindowXP clients.
> I think it has something to do with WINS, but i'm not sure.
>
> Please help me out.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Edward
>
>

Bill!

I just discovered that I have a browsing issue here with Win98 machines that
I can't figure out. Suddenly all Win98 clients can no longer see or browse
the network. However manually typing the \\machinename in the address bar
brings up the machine. This is preventing Outlook from finding Exchange on
the Win98 machines since Outlook (except the most recent version) is Netbios
based and requires Netbios to properly find the Exchange Server.

I suspect it is the result of some stupid patch that came to the Servers via
Automatic Updates.

I have redundant, fully functional WINS and DNS Servers. NetBios over
TCP/IP is enabled on the Servers. On the Win98 machine the box is checked
but the whole thing is greyed out (may have always been that way, don't
know).

As I write this I am on hold with MS PSS listening to elevator music.
Chances are you would see this and respond before I get off hold. Do you
have any ideas?


--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The Microsoft Windows Network display is driven by the computer browser
> service, and relies on Netbios names. Are any of the servers (particularly
> the SBS2003 which will be the domain master browser) multihomed or enabled
> for remote access? Do you see browser election messages in the event log?
>
> "Edward" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello,
> >
> > When i click on 'entire network' and 'Microsoft Windows Network' i can't
> see
> > other workstations in our network, sometimes it works, but mostly not.
We
> > have SBS2003 and windows 2000 servers + WindowXP clients.
> > I think it has something to do with WINS, but i'm not sure.
> >
> > Please help me out.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Edward
> >
> >
>
>

The patch mentioned in kb article 238853 took care of it even though the
effected machines were in the same subnet.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:uR%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Bill!
>
> I just discovered that I have a browsing issue here with Win98 machines
that
> I can't figure out. Suddenly all Win98 clients can no longer see or
browse
> the network. However manually typing the \\machinename in the address
bar
> brings up the machine. This is preventing Outlook from finding Exchange
on
> the Win98 machines since Outlook (except the most recent version) is
Netbios
> based and requires Netbios to properly find the Exchange Server.
>
> I suspect it is the result of some stupid patch that came to the Servers
via
> Automatic Updates.
>
> I have redundant, fully functional WINS and DNS Servers. NetBios over
> TCP/IP is enabled on the Servers. On the Win98 machine the box is checked
> but the whole thing is greyed out (may have always been that way, don't
> know).
>
> As I write this I am on hold with MS PSS listening to elevator music.
> Chances are you would see this and respond before I get off hold. Do you
> have any ideas?
>
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > The Microsoft Windows Network display is driven by the computer
browser
> > service, and relies on Netbios names. Are any of the servers
(particularly
> > the SBS2003 which will be the domain master browser) multihomed or
enabled
> > for remote access? Do you see browser election messages in the event
log?
> >
> > "Edward" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > When i click on 'entire network' and 'Microsoft Windows Network' i
can't
> > see
> > > other workstations in our network, sometimes it works, but mostly not.
> We
> > > have SBS2003 and windows 2000 servers + WindowXP clients.
> > > I think it has something to do with WINS, but i'm not sure.
> > >
> > > Please help me out.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Edward
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Glad it's working, but that seems a bit puzzling. Is there a server on the
subnet which acts as the browse master, or is the browse master W9x?

I'm in Sydney, so I am rarely online while you are at work. It's the
middle of the night here!

"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> The patch mentioned in kb article 238853 took care of it even though the
> effected machines were in the same subnet.
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
> "Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
> news:uR%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Bill!
> >
> > I just discovered that I have a browsing issue here with Win98 machines
> that
> > I can't figure out. Suddenly all Win98 clients can no longer see or
> browse
> > the network. However manually typing the \\machinename in the address
> bar
> > brings up the machine. This is preventing Outlook from finding Exchange
> on
> > the Win98 machines since Outlook (except the most recent version) is
> Netbios
> > based and requires Netbios to properly find the Exchange Server.
> >
> > I suspect it is the result of some stupid patch that came to the Servers
> via
> > Automatic Updates.
> >
> > I have redundant, fully functional WINS and DNS Servers. NetBios over
> > TCP/IP is enabled on the Servers. On the Win98 machine the box is
checked
> > but the whole thing is greyed out (may have always been that way, don't
> > know).
> >
> > As I write this I am on hold with MS PSS listening to elevator music.
> > Chances are you would see this and respond before I get off hold. Do you
> > have any ideas?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> > www.wandtv.com
> >
> >
> > "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > The Microsoft Windows Network display is driven by the computer
> browser
> > > service, and relies on Netbios names. Are any of the servers
> (particularly
> > > the SBS2003 which will be the domain master browser) multihomed or
> enabled
> > > for remote access? Do you see browser election messages in the event
> log?
> > >
> > > "Edward" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > When i click on 'entire network' and 'Microsoft Windows Network' i
> can't
> > > see
> > > > other workstations in our network, sometimes it works, but mostly
not.
> > We
> > > > have SBS2003 and windows 2000 servers + WindowXP clients.
> > > > I think it has something to do with WINS, but i'm not sure.
> > > >
> > > > Please help me out.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Edward
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Glad it's working, but that seems a bit puzzling. Is there a server on the
> subnet which acts as the browse master, or is the browse master W9x?
>
> I'm in Sydney, so I am rarely online while you are at work. It's the
> middle of the night here!

Ah! Ok. Sorry about that. My cousin is in Kenya so I run into that with him
too.

The first domain controller with the PDC "role" is also the master browser
and it in the same subnet as the Win98 client in this case. However after
the "Automatic Updates" (using SUS) brought all the servers up to date with
patches the win98 client would no longer recognise it as the Master Brower.
The packet capture from the client was odd, it was like on one hand it
recognized it as the browser yet tried to become the Browser itself at the
same time,...the packet capture just didn't make much sense. So after the
238853 patch it started working right. The patch was some kind of Win98 SP2
related thing.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

Thanks. Something to bear in mind!

"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
news:e$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Glad it's working, but that seems a bit puzzling. Is there a server on
the
> > subnet which acts as the browse master, or is the browse master W9x?
> >
> > I'm in Sydney, so I am rarely online while you are at work. It's the
> > middle of the night here!
>
> Ah! Ok. Sorry about that. My cousin is in Kenya so I run into that with
him
> too.
>
> The first domain controller with the PDC "role" is also the master browser
> and it in the same subnet as the Win98 client in this case. However after
> the "Automatic Updates" (using SUS) brought all the servers up to date
with
> patches the win98 client would no longer recognise it as the Master
Brower.
> The packet capture from the client was odd, it was like on one hand it
> recognized it as the browser yet tried to become the Browser itself at the
> same time,...the packet capture just didn't make much sense. So after the
> 238853 patch it started working right. The patch was some kind of Win98
SP2
> related thing.
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
>