can't network with router

I have a linksys wireless router and I used to have my laptop and
desktop networked. The laptop used the wireless connection and the
desktop was hardwired to the router. For some reason they eventually
quit seeing each other and I couldn't get them networked again.

My laptop recently died, and I replaced it with another desktop which
is also wired directly to the router. I've gone through every setting
and can't figure out why the two can't see each other. I've run the
network setup wizard on both and they are both supposed to be part of
the WORKGROUP network. I've run an ipconfig on each and they each seem
to be using the router ip configuration where one ends with 100 and the
other ends with 101. But I can't ping one from the other and when I
try to browse workgroup computers, it says the network resource
couldn't be found.

What can I check to get them connected again? I am running zonealarm
firewall (and not the XP firewall) but even when I turn that off, it
doesn't make a difference. Thanks.

vtxr1300 wrote:

> I have a linksys wireless router and I used to have my laptop and
> desktop networked. The laptop used the wireless connection and the
> desktop was hardwired to the router. For some reason they eventually
> quit seeing each other and I couldn't get them networked again.

Relationships often end seemingly without reason. Perhaps they are better
off this way.

> My laptop recently died, and I replaced it with another desktop which
> is also wired directly to the router. I've gone through every setting
> and can't figure out why the two can't see each other. I've run the
> network setup wizard on both and they are both supposed to be part of
> the WORKGROUP network. I've run an ipconfig on each and they each seem
> to be using the router ip configuration where one ends with 100 and the
> other ends with 101. But I can't ping one from the other and when I
> try to browse workgroup computers, it says the network resource
> couldn't be found.
>
> What can I check to get them connected again? I am running zonealarm
> firewall (and not the XP firewall) but even when I turn that off, it
> doesn't make a difference. Thanks.

Make sure ALL firewalls are turned off ... both pc's and in the router.

Is MAC filtering used? Disable it too.

Make sure the host file on each machine includes the hostname and IP of the
other one. Does pinging by IP work?

Contact a relationship specialist or clergyman for advice.

Try Linux.

vtxr1300 wrote:

> I have a linksys wireless router and I used to have my laptop and
> desktop networked. The laptop used the wireless connection and the
> desktop was hardwired to the router. For some reason they eventually
> quit seeing each other and I couldn't get them networked again.
>
> My laptop recently died, and I replaced it with another desktop which
> is also wired directly to the router. I've gone through every setting
> and can't figure out why the two can't see each other. I've run the
> network setup wizard on both and they are both supposed to be part of
> the WORKGROUP network. I've run an ipconfig on each and they each
> seem to be using the router ip configuration where one ends with 100
> and the other ends with 101. But I can't ping one from the other and
> when I try to browse workgroup computers, it says the network resource
> couldn't be found.
>
> What can I check to get them connected again? I am running zonealarm
> firewall (and not the XP firewall) but even when I turn that off, it
> doesn't make a difference. Thanks.

I had a similar problem and it turned out that the PC in question did
not have the necessary XP updates to enable WPA-PSK to be recognised.

I was running XP Pro and it must have been a bit old :-)

Cheers

Rob

"vtxr1300" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a linksys wireless router and I used to have my laptop and
> desktop networked. The laptop used the wireless connection and the
> desktop was hardwired to the router. For some reason they eventually
> quit seeing each other and I couldn't get them networked again.
>
> My laptop recently died, and I replaced it with another desktop which
> is also wired directly to the router. I've gone through every setting
> and can't figure out why the two can't see each other. I've run the
> network setup wizard on both and they are both supposed to be part of
> the WORKGROUP network. I've run an ipconfig on each and they each seem
> to be using the router ip configuration where one ends with 100 and the
> other ends with 101. But I can't ping one from the other and when I
> try to browse workgroup computers, it says the network resource
> couldn't be found.
>
> What can I check to get them connected again? I am running zonealarm
> firewall (and not the XP firewall) but even when I turn that off, it
> doesn't make a difference. Thanks.

The Network Wizard which means that both machines are XP is a piece of crap
that causes nothing but problems. The other thing you may want to do is
switch to MS NWlink as the network protocol if nothing else works for you.
MS NWlink will allow the machines to share resources. Howerver, that will
force you not to use the Network Wizard and you must do it manually.

Duane

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"vtxr1300" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a linksys wireless router and I used to have my laptop and
> desktop networked. The laptop used the wireless connection and the
> desktop was hardwired to the router. For some reason they eventually
> quit seeing each other and I couldn't get them networked again.
>
> My laptop recently died, and I replaced it with another desktop which
> is also wired directly to the router. I've gone through every setting
> and can't figure out why the two can't see each other. I've run the
> network setup wizard on both and they are both supposed to be part of
> the WORKGROUP network. I've run an ipconfig on each and they each seem
> to be using the router ip configuration where one ends with 100 and the
> other ends with 101. But I can't ping one from the other and when I
> try to browse workgroup computers, it says the network resource
> couldn't be found.
>
> What can I check to get them connected again? I am running zonealarm
> firewall (and not the XP firewall) but even when I turn that off, it
> doesn't make a difference. Thanks.

Another thing to look at is the antivirus. For example the internet worm
protection in Norton Antivirus will block network access.

Ian

>

On 12 Dec 2005 13:53:06 -0800, "vtxr1300" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I have a linksys wireless router

Make and model? Why so vague?

>and I used to have my laptop and
>desktop networked.

Make and model of latop? Operating system? Version?
Make and model of desktop? Operating system? Version?

>The laptop used the wireless connection and the
>desktop was hardwired to the router. For some reason they eventually
>quit seeing each other and I couldn't get them networked again.

When I've such mysterious changes, it's usually the result of spyware,
worms, LSP changes, or Windoze Updates. Try the usual anti-spyware
and anti-virus scanners on the desktop.

>My laptop recently died, and I replaced it with another desktop which
>is also wired directly to the router.

Directly wired to the router kinda eliminates wireless from the
equation. Replacing the old laptop with a new laptop and having he
same symptoms, sorta implies that the desktop has a problem.

Since you didn't bother to mention if either machine can connect to
the internet through the router, I'll assume that you can do that.

Assuming Windoze XP Home SP2, try the following random checklist:
1. Disable Windoze, Norton, McAffee, etc firewalls.
2. Make sure file sharing is enabled.
3. Try pinging each machine from the other. Don't bother with other
fixes until ping works as none of the NETBIOS networking stuff that
sits on top of TCP/IP will work if you can't "see" the other machine
with ping.
4. If ping works, try:
Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
NET VIEW
You should see a list of machines that have sharing enabled including
the machine you're currently running it on. If you can see the other
machine, run:
\\192.168.1.102 (or whatever the IP address is)
and you should get a list of available shares and printers.
If that works, try it by name:
\\Name_of_other_machine
5. http://www.windowsnetworking.com/art.../wxppntsh.html

>I've gone through every setting
>and can't figure out why the two can't see each other.

Setting in the router? That has no effect on a wired connection
between two machines. There's no wireless involved in the connection.
Your unspecified model wireless router is acting like an ethernet
switch with absolutely no setting in the router involved.

>I've run the
>network setup wizard on both and they are both supposed to be part of
>the WORKGROUP network.

Ugh. The XP network setup wizard causes more trouble than it solves.

>I've run an ipconfig on each and they each seem
>to be using the router ip configuration where one ends with 100 and the
>other ends with 101. But I can't ping one from the other and when I
>try to browse workgroup computers, it says the network resource
>couldn't be found.

If you have DHCP delivered IP addresses, then each computer is
properly connected to the router. Can they both browse the internet
through the router? I'm assuming they can because you didn't mention
it as a problem.

If you can't ping, then something is getting in the way. It's almost
always a "personal firewall". Turn it OFF on both machines for now.

>What can I check to get them connected again? I am running zonealarm
>firewall (and not the XP firewall) but even when I turn that off, it
>doesn't make a difference. Thanks.

ZoneAlarm Free or Pro? ZoneAlarm comes with many add in modules.
Turning them all off is somewhat of a challenge. Are you sure they're
off? Disabling the various ZoneAlarm startup programs with MSCONFIG
doesn't work.

To disable Zone Alarm Pro open the Zone Alarm Pro Control Center click
on Overview and then REMOVE the check in the "Load ZoneAlarm Pro at
Startup" box. Reboot your Computer

2. To disable ZoneAlarm Double-click on the tray Icon. When the
ZoneAlarm Box opens click on Configuration Tab. Under Configuration
remove the check from the "Load ZoneAlarm at startup" Box. Reboot
your Computer.



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