Cant get router (DHCP) to allocate ip

just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or obtain the
ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a fresh
in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address type
"automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have tried to
assign manual but it wont work.

I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there muxt be
something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this any ideas

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:14:01 -0700, marc wrote:

> just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or obtain the
> ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a fresh
> in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address type
> "automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have tried to
> assign manual but it wont work.
>
> I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there muxt be
> something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this any ideas

Did you reinstall the driver fo rthe network card? Ids the XP firewall
blocking your access?

In article <A0830BE5-44A3-4A6F-80DD-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"marc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or obtain the
>ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a fresh
>in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address type
>"automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have tried to
>assign manual but it wont work.
>
>I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there muxt be
>something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this any ideas

Did you specify the right wireless network settings (SSID, encryption
type, encryption key) on the laptop's wireless connection?
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"Clark" wrote:

> Well, I tried it and if I disabled my DHCP server, I got one of the Private
> IP address notations. I did not get it until I had released and renewed the
> IP addresses for the connection. I then set in the alternate configuration
> tab an IP address that I knew was part of my workgroup and the assignment
> worked. If my first post shows up, you will know what I am referring to.
> (Network connections, properties, tcp/ip,properties, Alternate
> configuration.) If nothing else you should be able to reach your router.
>
> Clark
>
> "marc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:A0830BE5-44A3-4A6F-80DD-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or obtain
> > the
> > ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a
> > fresh
> > in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address type
> > "automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have tried
> > to
> > assign manual but it wont work.
> >
> > I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there muxt be
> > something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this any
> > ideas
> >
>
>

Hi guys thanks for the replys.
I have turned off windows firewall but this makes no difference
I have checked the wireless config, and the netgear connects (go green) to
indicate that all ssid and wep are correct but still it wont pick up dhcp.
I have tried to renew etc but this wont work either and also re booted the
gateway but this stills does not work, then lep top gets the info but the pc
wont. I have tried the reg edit to disable windows assigning ip but this
aslo fails. cant think what can be blocking the incoming dhcp. even when i
put all the right info into a manual connection it looks like its connected
but the connection does not work cant even ping the gateway

if i turn off all my security settings in the router i can get the pc ao
accept dhcp as is assigned an ip and can connect to the internet, but as soon
as i put back on security (in the router) i go back to limited or no
connection and the ip is assigned by xp. ant ideas what could be causing
this I think it has to be sp2 problem ??

"marc" wrote:

> just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or obtain the
> ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a fresh
> in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address type
> "automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have tried to
> assign manual but it wont work.
>
> I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there muxt be
> something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this any ideas
>

I have 2 routers 1st is a modem router usr and the second is a wireless
router netgear wgt624. both routers have firewalls on etc. I have mac
filtering and wep security. This was the setup before i rebuilt my system.
now after i have rebuilt the system no security measure will work at all. I
have tried with just mac and wep security and still no joy. the pc wont pick
up the dhcp from the router with security and b4 it did, i do think the
problem is sp2 related as i have never had this problem when i rebuild my
systema and this is the first time I used a sp2 disk to rebuild my system

"Clark" wrote:

> What security settings in the router are you turning off? Does the router
> have a built-in firewall? Are you using WEP or WAP or 802.1x? Are you
> using MAC filtering? If you turn off the security settings in the router
> and the system works, then SP2 is not the cause, it is the router. There
> may be a conflict between more than one firewall.
>
> Leave your computer with a known good IP address and try pinging the router
> when you change something. If you are hardwired, the only security settings
> that could effect the connection would be a built-in firewall in the router,
> unless you have locked out that machine somehow.
>
> Clark
>
> "marc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:E1F2F015-EB77-4945-8AB1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > if i turn off all my security settings in the router i can get the pc ao
> > accept dhcp as is assigned an ip and can connect to the internet, but as
> > soon
> > as i put back on security (in the router) i go back to limited or no
> > connection and the ip is assigned by xp. ant ideas what could be causing
> > this I think it has to be sp2 problem ??
> >
> > "marc" wrote:
> >
> >> just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or obtain
> >> the
> >> ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a
> >> fresh
> >> in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address type
> >> "automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have tried
> >> to
> >> assign manual but it wont work.
> >>
> >> I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there muxt
> >> be
> >> something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this any
> >> ideas
> >>
>
>
>

I know !!! never had any problems before. I have turned off windows firewall .

The only difference I can see between laptop and pc in the services is this
if i go to dhcp client and open it up and go to the dependencies tab and
expand netbois over tcpip is the laptop has mpfirewl (i think is mcafee
firewall) but i could be wrong !!!! any other ideas

"Clark" wrote:

> Maybe someone else will know, but SP2 added a built in Windows firewall. I
> don't remember if you tried turning that off, but it appears from what you
> say that there may be 3 firewalls now between you and the internet. If that
> is the case, it seems a little excessive. The Windows Firewall settings are
> in the Control Panel.
>
> Clark
>
> "marc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:843A124D-EF21-4D1D-86D3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have 2 routers 1st is a modem router usr and the second is a wireless
> > router netgear wgt624. both routers have firewalls on etc. I have mac
> > filtering and wep security. This was the setup before i rebuilt my
> > system.
> > now after i have rebuilt the system no security measure will work at all.
> > I
> > have tried with just mac and wep security and still no joy. the pc wont
> > pick
> > up the dhcp from the router with security and b4 it did, i do think the
> > problem is sp2 related as i have never had this problem when i rebuild my
> > systema and this is the first time I used a sp2 disk to rebuild my system
> >
> > "Clark" wrote:
> >
> >> What security settings in the router are you turning off? Does the
> >> router
> >> have a built-in firewall? Are you using WEP or WAP or 802.1x? Are you
> >> using MAC filtering? If you turn off the security settings in the router
> >> and the system works, then SP2 is not the cause, it is the router. There
> >> may be a conflict between more than one firewall.
> >>
> >> Leave your computer with a known good IP address and try pinging the
> >> router
> >> when you change something. If you are hardwired, the only security
> >> settings
> >> that could effect the connection would be a built-in firewall in the
> >> router,
> >> unless you have locked out that machine somehow.
> >>
> >> Clark
> >>
> >> "marc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:E1F2F015-EB77-4945-8AB1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > if i turn off all my security settings in the router i can get the pc
> >> > ao
> >> > accept dhcp as is assigned an ip and can connect to the internet, but
> >> > as
> >> > soon
> >> > as i put back on security (in the router) i go back to limited or no
> >> > connection and the ip is assigned by xp. ant ideas what could be
> >> > causing
> >> > this I think it has to be sp2 problem ??
> >> >
> >> > "marc" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or
> >> >> obtain
> >> >> the
> >> >> ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a
> >> >> fresh
> >> >> in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address
> >> >> type
> >> >> "automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have
> >> >> tried
> >> >> to
> >> >> assign manual but it wont work.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there
> >> >> muxt
> >> >> be
> >> >> something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this
> >> >> any
> >> >> ideas
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

I can get mac filter working and I am not broadcasting my ssid but I cant get
wep working at all. Never had this problem b4 any ideas, when I do put it on
DHCP is not able to assign the pc an ip

"marc" wrote:

> just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or obtain the
> ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a fresh
> in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address type
> "automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have tried to
> assign manual but it wont work.
>
> I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there muxt be
> something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this any ideas
>

Where is that setting?

Arch

"Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4sGte.447$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> And one more thing, pleeeaaase check to see if you have the 802.1x
> authentication enabled. Every time I bring this up, it is like the
> Merrill Lynch commercials were everyone gets really quiet!
>
> Clark
>
> "Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:F3Gte.435$(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>I just went through mine and without changing anything on the router (DHCP
>>server)--
>> If I disabled WEP the DHCP worked.
>> If I used a different key (2 instead of 1) the DHCP worked.
>> If I used the wrong WEP key I was no longer able to connect to the router
>> and an autoconfiguration IP address was supplied.
>>
>> From this, I would suggest redoing your WEP settings. Maybe you used a
>> different passphrase or typed in one of the digits incorrectly.
>>
>> Clark
>>
>> "marc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:BE20833B-A7AF-40B2-8C57-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I can get mac filter working and I am not broadcasting my ssid but I cant
>>>get
>>> wep working at all. Never had this problem b4 any ideas, when I do put
>>> it on
>>> DHCP is not able to assign the pc an ip
>>>
>>> "marc" wrote:
>>>
>>>> just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or
>>>> obtain the
>>>> ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a
>>>> fresh
>>>> in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address type
>>>> "automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have
>>>> tried to
>>>> assign manual but it wont work.
>>>>
>>>> I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there muxt
>>>> be
>>>> something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this any
>>>> ideas
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

hi guys thanks for all the help. the cause of the trouble is this
"Microsoft's critical update hotfix Q815485 causes wireless drivers to fail."
managed to track this down now i have moved from wep to wea and its working
the other solution available would be to uninstal the hotfix
"Clark" wrote:

> If you look at the properties of your wireless network, on the
> Authentication tab there is a check box for 802.1x. It is used for
> smartcard or other type verifications. I believe it is enabled by default,
> so I would think it should not interfere with the connection. My problem is
> my router doesn't do that so I can't check. There seem to be quite a few
> folks that cannot connect to their networks, I am just trying to find other
> reasons for the problem.
>
> Clark
>
> "Arch Willingham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Where is that setting?
> >
> > Arch
> >
> > "Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:4sGte.447$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> >> And one more thing, pleeeaaase check to see if you have the 802.1x
> >> authentication enabled. Every time I bring this up, it is like the
> >> Merrill Lynch commercials were everyone gets really quiet!
> >>
> >> Clark
> >>
> >> "Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:F3Gte.435$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> >>>I just went through mine and without changing anything on the router
> >>>(DHCP server)--
> >>> If I disabled WEP the DHCP worked.
> >>> If I used a different key (2 instead of 1) the DHCP worked.
> >>> If I used the wrong WEP key I was no longer able to connect to the
> >>> router and an autoconfiguration IP address was supplied.
> >>>
> >>> From this, I would suggest redoing your WEP settings. Maybe you used a
> >>> different passphrase or typed in one of the digits incorrectly.
> >>>
> >>> Clark
> >>>
> >>> "marc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >>> news:BE20833B-A7AF-40B2-8C57-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>>>I can get mac filter working and I am not broadcasting my ssid but I
> >>>>cant get
> >>>> wep working at all. Never had this problem b4 any ideas, when I do put
> >>>> it on
> >>>> DHCP is not able to assign the pc an ip
> >>>>
> >>>> "marc" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> just rebuilt my pc and i cant get the wireless card to acceept or
> >>>>> obtain the
> >>>>> ip from the router which acts as dhcp. all was working until i did a
> >>>>> fresh
> >>>>> in stall and my laptop is still working. what i get in is address
> >>>>> type
> >>>>> "automatic private address" so the pc is assigning the ip. I have
> >>>>> tried to
> >>>>> assign manual but it wont work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a wireless netgear card wg311t, and a netgear router. there
> >>>>> muxt be
> >>>>> something in the fress install of xp pro sp2 which is blocking this
> >>>>> any ideas
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>